Need thoughts on 7 year old 2nd grader behavior problem(long~sorry)

[padams]

Our elementary school's consulting psychologist tells parents that the 3 keys to boy popularity in elementary school are sports ability, height and humor. In other words, the most popular boys are usually athletic, tall and/or funny. While I don't think her theory applies to every boy, it is generally true in my observation as a boy mom.

OP, if your son is overweight ("chubby" by your description), then I am guessing he's not the most athletic kid. If he's average height or short too, he's left with being the class clown to gain the attention and admiration of his classmates. Find a social skills class for your DS to work on his friendship making skills. The social skills class will also help him learn what behavior is appropriate and inappropriate. Second graders don't usually hide under tables. You need to help him learn to behave before the other families don't want your DS in their children's classes and activities because he is "that kid with the behavior issues." Also, work on his diet and activity level so he's not "chubby".

Good luck!

 

[cornflake]

A thought on the hiding under the table thing - Ben says it was him and two other boys and the OP said the teacher wouldn't discuss other children with her. Of course the teacher shouldn't and I'd think wouldn't discuss other children, in a 'Bobby is no angel either' way.'

However, had there actually been a little group that was having fun doing this, I don't think it'd have been mentioned the same way. There's nothing at all in the letter to indicate that it's anyone but Ben, and saying 'with other students/which encourages other students to join him/along with some other students/etc.' That wouldn't be discussing other students, it wouldn't even be numbering them specifically. Note that she does say other students try to encourage Ben to pay attention - it's not that she won't mention them.

Hence, I think the only one under the table is Ben, and I'd certainly clarify that with the teacher and then have a hard-line discussion with Ben about deflecting blame and lying, if he said there were others and there weren't.

The other thing I noticed when I went back to look at the original letter is that the OP says 'if the teacher feels Ben needs attention' why can't she give him that attention for a couple of minutes.

She never says she thinks he NEEDS attention. She says he WANTS attention.

While this is a minor distinction, I think it's important in terms of general outlook about this entire situation. Ben clearly wants attention - that doesn't mean he needs to be given attention, which I don't know that the OP would agree with but I think his teachers would and that difference may result in a difference in how his behaviours are treated at home and at school.

 

[Tiger926]

Just getting caught up on this thread again since last night...long day at school today, as several of my at-risk students had meltdowns and had to be sent home.

I see OP hasn't been back yet. I hope her son had a better day at school today, and that she has been able to contact the doc for her neuropsych report, as well as to schedule a meeting with her son's teachers.

Lots of good advice on this thread, but lots to process for OP.

Hang in there, OP! Tiger

 

[quentina]

Please try to read these teachers' comments objectively, as if they were about any child, not just your own.

I am not getting negativity from their comments. Quite the opposite. They seem thorough and thoughtful, as though the teachers have carefully considered the best way to handle your son and have tried different strategies with him. What they have in common is that both teachers believe he is seeking attention and that it is distracting/disruptive for other students. These teachers have a class of probably 20 young children to teach; they have to find the most effective and expedient way to deal with your son so they can maintain the attention and interest of 19 or so other kids. The strategies they are using are commonly used and are recommended by teaching programs and other education professionals.

These are warm comments. I'm not hearing any negativity. Both teachers sound as though they are trying to handle your son well and do not have any ill will toward him. They do not sound as though they are beating him down.

These are not new issues ("do not believe these issues are just surfacing now" and "behavior continued to be a problem"). Why do you think that is? You mentioned dyslexia but have you considered behavioral issues; e.g., sensory processing issues?

Please take these comments at face value: two teachers who are trying to handle your son's disruptive behavior while teaching the rest of the class. The comments are neutral and objective; not negative. Although you may not like their approach, it is a very professional way to handle a disruptive child.

I agree. It appears to me that they want to help him make good choices. They seem to be using good techniques etc.

My youngest had similar behavior and I remember that hurt that came with emails of this type.....we spoke to the pediatrician in grand detail (it was nothing new for us, was going on since our son arrived at the age of 2.5 but, still touched my heart heavy). We have since found a routine that worked.....I would try to work hand and hand with the teacher, counselor and school psychologist. In addition, he may need a small accomodation to settle him. Example, Antonio is allowed to suck on peppermints. This was a technique that they suggested that for some reason, helps settle him.

Good luck!

 

[Shelly888]

I really don't have much more to add. I have read all of the responses and appreciate every one of them, even the ones that I don't agree with and even the ones that are down right mean spirited.

A couple of quick points:

To me, a messy desk and having to be redirected to stay on task, in the way his core teacher explained, were NOT huge red flags. I understand the importance of keeping tidy and organized, but I find it quite a stretch to suggest he will be a juvenile deliquent or a high school drop out because he is disorganized. Two statements that were implied to me. I find it well within a normal type of 7 year old boy behavior that needs to be addressed, but nothing to panic over. His teacher also left me with that impression.

For those of you who are insisting that I am NOT addressing his current behavior problems head on now are just dead wrong. As I stated earlier, I emailed both arts teacher as soon as read his report card on Friday, called his doc to get any info about his neuropsych eval, and spoke at great length with Ben. I already had a teacher conference set up for Thursday as I was unable to attend on the day they let out of school early. I would think that if his teachers did not think that was soon enough, she would have asked me to come in sooner.

I did receive one response from his music teacher regarding the follow-up email I sent her, and am extremely happy with her response. I find it to be productive and much more positive than the first. I have not yet heard back from his art teacher.

For those of you that keep insisting that I am complaining that her emails were 'unprofessional', 'uncaring', etc. I never did say that at all. I questioned if I was being overly sensitive to the emails because I found them overtly negative. What they are doing has NOT helped, and his parents had been given the wrong impression about what has been going on and there had not been follow through at home(more than baseline).

Anyway,here is the email:

Hi Michelle,

I understand your concern, and I have talked to Mrs. O and she is going to set up a chart for Ben to use during the day so that you can see his progress each day in all classes. He will bring that chart with him to music class, and try to earn smiley faces for each criteria. Mrs. Oliverio will explain this all to you when you meet with her. This way you will be informed about his music classes as well as what happens in the classroom.

Thank you for filling me in on Ben and how he is at home, and for the suggestion about focusing on the positive. I do try to give Ben feedback when he is doing the right thing, but I will try to do it more.

The chart will begin in music class after April vacation (when I see him next).

Thank you,

Jessica

 

[katespade]

I understand the importance of keeping tidy and organized, but I find it quite a stretch to suggest he will be a juvenile deliquent or a high school drop out because he is disorganized.

This is exactly what someone meant when they said you're taking their criticism (that you asked for) to mean that they think your kid is bad. No one said anything even remotely close to that.

For those of you that keep insisting that I am complaining that her emails were 'unprofessional', 'uncaring', etc. I never did say that at all. What they are doing has NOT helped, and his parents had been given the wrong impression about what has been going on and there had not been follow through at home(more than baseline).

In your first post, you said that it was very negative, implied that teachers are lazy or uncaring because they only want "easy" students, he only gets messages from most that he isn't good enough, and that they're giving your son the shaft. None of that even includes any of your follow up posts. If those comments don't mean that you think the teachers are unprofessional and uncaring then I'm not sure what else they could mean.

You were not given the wrong impression. If Teacher A says a child is acting out, why wouldn't you ask teachers B, C, and D to determine if it's a problem with your child or specifically Teacher A? Just because you chose not to do that doesn't make it their fault. Whether it was an oversight or denial on your part is up to you to decide, but it's irrelevant now. You know now. You're taking the steps to work on it. Let the rest of it go. What they are doing has not helped, but neither has what you've done. Seems like at this point the teachers are getting ALL the blame, you're excusing yourself because you "didn't know" and Ben gets excused because "it's funny".

I do find it rather strange that you will post, word for word, his progress reports and your letters with the teachers but will not answer the questions regarding the Scouts meeting or his "it's funny" comment. I do have to agree with the poster that wondered what you are going to do if the neuro results come back negative (which I hope they do). If there is no medical reason for his behavior, then what? Who takes the blame then? And if you don't get those neuro results tomorrow you better start raising hell over it. REGARDLESS, you deserve your money back. I'd call the insurance company and fight the payment. A delay like that is ABSOLUTELY, 100% unacceptable.

Thank you for filling me in on Ben and how he is at home, and for the suggestion about focusing on the positive. I do try to give Ben feedback when he is doing the right thing, but I will try to do it more.

Obviously, I don't know what you said to her to warrant this response, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it was probably out of line. Suggesting that a teacher focus on the positive and to try to give him more positive feedback is insulting. The problem is not that she doesn't focus on the positive. The problem is your child's behavior. Full stop. If the teacher never gave Ben any positive comments ever, she'd be an ineffective teacher but it wouldn't excuse his behavior. What you are suggesting is that unless your child is being told how great he's doing, he is allowed to act however he wants. To give advice on how she should be doing her job and using his home behavior as a rebuttal to her original letter (that you asked for) is just...I don't know.

You have two children. Multiply that by 100, add in some legitimate special needs students, some poorly behaved ones, some downright rude ones, parents that hover, parents that don't care, parents in denial...then imagine someone chiming in with a "You're doing it wrong." on a daily basis. And some lunatics actually WANT to do the aforementioned for a living. That is the exact opposite of uncaring. I, honestly, don't know how they do it. Good teachers are worth their weight in gold. GREAT teachers are priceless.

Search Youtube for Taylor Mali What Teachers Make. They truly have one of the most thankless jobs out there.

 

[NHdisneylover]

What did you send in your follow up email that generated that response?

 

[torinsmom]

The comments on his report card about organization and needing reminders to focus, do make me wonder about the possibility of ADHD. As kids get older, the symptoms stand out more. Much of the time, they will be more prominent at school because there is more structure and more demanded that requires both mental and physical organization and detailed attention. Add in the behavior, which seems over the top and maybe even impulsive and I would bet he has some form of ADHD. The teacher would be comparing these skills to what is appropriate for his age, NOT what would be expected of an adult. No, it doesn't mean they will ne a juvenile delinquent, but as coursework gets harder and there is more to keep up with, it will be hard for an ADHD kid to be successful. They need to learn strategies to organize and focus, and possibly medication. My son(17) has ADHD, inattentive type, and the strategy he uses if to keep EVERYTHING for the whole semester in his backpack. I mean every boo, handout, etc. Drives me crazy, but it works for him. He doesn't use his locker, because things get lost in there.

I am assuming a GOOD neuropsych report will say whether he is ADHD or not. If he is, don't be scared of the diagnosis. ADHD kids have some GREAT traits, such as over the top creativity and are very intuitive. From what you describe, he is a great kid who just needs a little help in some areas. I hope you are able to get that for him

 

[Tiger926]

This is exactly what someone meant when they said you're taking their criticism (that you asked for) to mean that they think your kid is bad. No one said anything even remotely close to that.

In your first post, you said that it was very negative, implied that teachers are lazy or uncaring because they only want "easy" students, he only gets messages from most that he isn't good enough, and that they're giving your son the shaft. None of that even includes any of your follow up posts. If those comments don't mean that you think the teachers are unprofessional and uncaring then I'm not sure what else they could mean.

You were not given the wrong impression. If Teacher A says a child is acting out, why wouldn't you ask teachers B, C, and D to determine if it's a problem with your child or specifically Teacher A? Just because you chose not to do that doesn't make it their fault. Whether it was an oversight or denial on your part is up to you to decide, but it's irrelevant now. You know now. You're taking the steps to work on it. Let the rest of it go. What they are doing has not helped, but neither has what you've done. Seems like at this point the teachers are getting ALL the blame, you're excusing yourself because you "didn't know" and Ben gets excused because "it's funny".

I do find it rather strange that you will post, word for word, his progress reports and your letters with the teachers but will not answer the questions regarding the Scouts meeting or his "it's funny" comment. I do have to agree with the poster that wondered what you are going to do if the neuro results come back negative (which I hope they do). If there is no medical reason for his behavior, then what? Who takes the blame then? And if you don't get those neuro results tomorrow you better start raising hell over it. REGARDLESS, you deserve your money back. I'd call the insurance company and fight the payment. A delay like that is ABSOLUTELY, 100% unacceptable.


Obviously, I don't know what you said to her to warrant this response, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it was probably out of line. Suggesting that a teacher focus on the positive and to try to give him more positive feedback is insulting. The problem is not that she doesn't focus on the positive. The problem is your child's behavior. Full stop. If the teacher never gave Ben any positive comments ever, she'd be an ineffective teacher but it wouldn't excuse his behavior. What you are suggesting is that unless your child is being told how great he's doing, he is allowed to act however he wants. To give advice on how she should be doing her job and using his home behavior as a rebuttal to her original letter (that you asked for) is just...I don't know.

You have two children. Multiply that by 100, add in some legitimate special needs students, some poorly behaved ones, some downright rude ones, parents that hover, parents that don't care, parents in denial...then imagine someone chiming in with a "You're doing it wrong." on a daily basis. And some lunatics actually WANT to do the aforementioned for a living. That is the exact opposite of uncaring. I, honestly, don't know how they do it. Good teachers are worth their weight in gold. GREAT teachers are priceless.

Search Youtube for Taylor Mali What Teachers Make. They truly have one of the most thankless jobs out there.

This is a very good post! Except of course where you call us teachers lunatics! Although some days, in all seriousness, it feels like that...

I do feel that that OP has totally misunderstood the tone and purpose of the teachers' comments, as I mentioned before.

They are not negative whatsover, but as a parent who has a child who is exhibiting problematic behaviours, she feels this way, and nothing that multiple pages of responses from any of us is going to erase.

I am not sure what follow up email she sent, but to imply that the teacher was not positive is a concern for me. I can show you teachers who are not concerned, and they don't send emails, nevermind detailed oriented emails with many positive words in them, such as the ones that the OP posted for us.

We seem to have a perception problem here, and there isn't much that will fix that for the OP, except at the school level. I think because her child doesn't exhibit these issues at home, she may feel that school is the problem, but that is not how it works.

Diagnoses have now changed to where you don't need to present in multiple environments anymore to be diagnosed with ADHD, etc. If her child is struggling at school, then that is what is focused on, period.

I feel badly for the OP's son's teachers at this point, as those comments were very helpful, and showed how caring they are for her son. They were positive in nature - mentioning that you aren't going to give special seating so as to now isolate a child is very positive, and proves that they get it. I am confused as to how OP feels they were given the wrong impression as parents? Our job as teachers, since we spend more time during the day with your children than you do, is to tell and show you exactly what behaviours we see - and his teachers did just that, with detailed responses that are very helpful, if OP lets them be...

I do wish OP and her son the best of luck in figuring out what is triggering his school issues. Whether it's medical or academic, both or neither, there is work to be done, and at this point, it can't all be done by the school. Whether he is diagnosed with dyslexia, ADHD, etc., is important, but not necessarily for the teachers, as it sounds like they are already implementing accommodations (behaviour chart is good), regardless of an official diagnosis, and those are signs of good teachers.

Home, school, parent and child is the ideal partnership, and it seems like OP is trying to get there, but in my professional opinion, she is putting up obstacles on her end, and these will surely hurt her son in the end.

Tiger

 

[portia9]

Their feedback was thoughtful and well considered. They are trying a range of strategies with your son. I would be really happy with that report. They are clearly showing a desire to help your son and keep communication open with you.

I get 7yo boys-I have had three of them so far, two of them on the more challenging scale. None of those comments would have upset me.

 

[BuzznBelle'smom]

I really don't have much more to add. I have read all of the responses and appreciate every one of them, even the ones that I don't agree with and even the ones that are down right mean spirited.

See, this is just ridiculous. I've read this entire thread, and not one poster has been mean-spirited. People have been trying, very politely, to help you see that you are in denial, and need to work with the teachers to get a handle on Ben's behavior.

I agree with the others that your focus on teachers being negative is just wrong. They are NOT being negative, they are trying to be honest. You just don't like what they're saying. I have 4 kids, and have gotten many, many report cards through the years--not all of them filled with rainbows and lollipops. If a mother is honest with herself, there shouldn't be any huge surprises--i.e., the kid who's room is messy, probably has a messy desk, as well.

I still want to know how you handled the Scout meeting. That was a clear example of what the teachers are seeing. His actions and yoru response (or lack thereof) are a clear indication of the actual problem. The fact that you refuse to answer this question, and focus on teachers not being "positive", tells me that you don't want to face your contribution to his issues.

This isn't about you, this is about getting your son to do better in school. Please check your ego at the door, put on your big-girl panties, take a deep breath, and look in the mirror. Tell yourself, "I will do whatever it takes to get my son on track." Than, do it.

I mentioned earlier that I have a challenging son, too. He's 15, and has had scool issues since preschool. My last conference for him was 2 weeks ago, with a dozen school staff (teachers, spec. ed., guidance counselor, psychologist, social worker, etc.). It was humbling to see all these people taking time to get my son on the right path. After a very long discussion, the psychologist said, "He's going to make a great grad student!" So, I've been at this for a long time, and still have a ways to go! I have never once been able to relax and say, "Okay, now I can hang back a bit." But, it's NOT ABOUT ME. It's about a child who needs more.

 

[Tiger926]

OP

Please remove the teacher's name from your last email communication response that you posted.

I would be livid if a parent posted private email communications on a public message board with my name in it. Lots of security risks there...especially for your son.

Thanks, Tiger

 

[sam_gordon]

OP

Please remove the teacher's name from your last email communication response that you posted.

I would be livid if a parent posted private email communications on a public message board with my name in it. Lots of security risks there...especially for your son.

Thanks, Tiger

So the fact that she included the teachers first name bothered you? I wonder how many teachers are named "Jessica"? Granted, having his (what I assume is his "main") teacher's last name may be pushing the line a little, but again, I'm guessing her name is probably on the website of the school, so I don't see any security issue.

To the OP... I also wonder how you reacted in scouts and to the "it's funny" comment. Since MULTIPLE people have asked for your reaction AND you say you've read every post, I can't believe you've just "missed" the questions. Your silence on these issues speaks volumes.

Again, now's the time to focus on what's best for your son NOW, not what a teacher has written on previous report cards. I also think it's telling that there's apparently a report card left off. You list comments from two report cards (one supposedly recently), but by now there should have been three.

Good luck OP.

 

[mjkacmom]

My son(17) has ADHD, inattentive type, and the strategy he uses if to keep EVERYTHING for the whole semester in his backpack. I mean every boo, handout, etc. Drives me crazy, but it works for him. He doesn't use his locker, because things get lost in there.

Lol - before he was even diagnosed, ds13 would carry every single book in his backpack (and walk to and from school). When I asked him why, he said it was to make sure he didn't forget anything. We held off medicating until 6th grade, when his grades started to go down - he just couldn't focus. He is innattentive, and therefore not a distraction in class (okay, he used to hum), and not a behavior problem, so we just waited until grades were a problem.

He is still a straight A honor student (thank you, focalin!). He never had problems with his peers, and always had lots of friends (he's also very athletic so that helps). You have to watch the class clown thing - are the kids laughing with him, or being annoyed? Some clowns tend to lack the ability to read social cues.

 

[Mkrop]

Again, now's the time to focus on what's best for your son NOW, not what a teacher has written on previous report cards. I also think it's telling that there's apparently a report card left off. You list comments from two report cards (one supposedly recently), but by now there should have been three.

Good luck OP.

We have trimesters at our school, so we have only had two report cards so far. Maybe this is the case for the OP

Anyway once again I agree with prior posters about the teacher emails being helpful. OP you used very negative terms to describe the emails, and asking if your kid is getting the shaft, are indicative that you think the teachers dont care and are unprofessional.

I also have not seen anything mean spirited on this thread.

I think you need to see this as a triangle approach, Student, Parent, Teacher. Each one (even Ben!!!) has a role in his success. Teachers have many kids to care and teach. Ben has himself to be responsible for and you the parent have Ben and your other children to worry about. Each role is key, but the responsibility is much more spread out for a teacher who has 24 students.

Once again, do not concentrate on a Dx, a Dx maybe a reason the behavior is happening, not an excuse. He may be Dx with X, or he may not. Either way it does not matter, the behavior needs to change.

DS9 use to raise his hand and talk about things other than the topic at hand, a TV show, a book etc. He eventually did get Dx with ADD, but that truly did not matter, it was his inappropriate behavior that needed to be addressed. The ADD explained why he could not focus on the topic at hand, and why he was in his own little world but it was not an excuse. And we worked with him EVERY DAY to get this under control.

It was very hard hearing negative things about DS but we needed to get this under control and we did. He is in 3rd grade now and is doing great!

 

[sunshinehighway]

Old 09-28-2011, 06:27 PM #4
Shelly888
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I am in the process of getting our son tested. I pretty much stumbled upon it after googling 'reading difficulties' in children and he also fits a lot of the characteristics for his present age as well as when he was in preschool and kindergarden.

He sees the reading specialist at school, and I brought it up with her, she didn't think so, but said she wouldn't get him tested so young. I didn't listen to her, and set out on my own. I got a referral from my ped to a neuropsychologist and I am going through Easter Seals. It was the only place around that wasn't privately run, and therefore would accept our insurance.

It's a 3 part appointment. First part is parents only approx 2 hours. The next 2 appointments are for Ben. They are about 4 hours each and consist of all kinds of testing. I believe a report is typed up with the findings and sent to us and our ped.

I am not liking his teacher so far this year. She is a long term sub for the teacher out on maternity leave. SHe has him labeled as unmotivated, negative, lazy, etc. According to him, she refuses to help him, I know there are 2 sides, but isn't that why he is in school, to get help and to get an education. He is going to be a science buff like me! He already shows a strong aptitude in this area, and loves it!

Good luck to you!

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=42786370#post42786370

How did this testing go? Did you get results? You seem so focused on the issue with your son stemming from a learning disability.

Also, it seems you were aware of your son having problems in school from the beginning of the school year. It also seems you have been blaming the teachers since the beginning.

 

[goofy!]

I really don't have much more to add. I have read all of the responses and appreciate every one of them, even the ones that I don't agree with and even the ones that are down right mean spirited.

A couple of quick points:

To me, a messy desk and having to be redirected to stay on task, in the way his core teacher explained, were NOT huge red flags. I understand the importance of keeping tidy and organized, but I find it quite a stretch to suggest he will be a juvenile deliquent or a high school drop out because he is disorganized. Two statements that were implied to me. I find it well within a normal type of 7 year old boy behavior that needs to be addressed, but nothing to panic over. His teacher also left me with that impression.

For those of you who are insisting that I am NOT addressing his current behavior problems head on now are just dead wrong. As I stated earlier, I emailed both arts teacher as soon as read his report card on Friday, called his doc to get any info about his neuropsych eval, and spoke at great length with Ben. I already had a teacher conference set up for Thursday as I was unable to attend on the day they let out of school early. I would think that if his teachers did not think that was soon enough, she would have asked me to come in sooner.

I did receive one response from his music teacher regarding the follow-up email I sent her, and am extremely happy with her response. I find it to be productive and much more positive than the first. I have not yet heard back from his art teacher.

For those of you that keep insisting that I am complaining that her emails were 'unprofessional', 'uncaring', etc. I never did say that at all. I questioned if I was being overly sensitive to the emails because I found them overtly negative. What they are doing has NOT helped, and his parents had been given the wrong impression about what has been going on and there had not been follow through at home(more than baseline).

Anyway,here is the email:

Hi Michelle,

I understand your concern, and I have talked to Mrs. O and she is going to set up a chart for Ben to use during the day so that you can see his progress each day in all classes. He will bring that chart with him to music class, and try to earn smiley faces for each criteria. Mrs. Oliverio will explain this all to you when you meet with her. This way you will be informed about his music classes as well as what happens in the classroom.

Thank you for filling me in on Ben and how he is at home, and for the suggestion about focusing on the positive. I do try to give Ben feedback when he is doing the right thing, but I will try to do it more.

The chart will begin in music class after April vacation (when I see him next).

Thank you,

Jessica

So, all you got out of the teachers' e-mails to you was that Ben had a messy desk?

How about all the other significant behavior issues they addressed? Such as refusing to join the group almost on a daily basis? The constant interruption of the classroom? The other children complaining about his behavior? The frequent hiding under the desk?

Have you dismissed all these behaviors as just the teacher giving him the shaft?

Between your denial of his problems, your constant blaming of the teachers, your insistence on hugs, love rather and cheerleading rather than discipline, your refusal to answer how you addressed the boyscout issue, and now the post above, I think it is now very clear on what type of young man Ben is and your parenting style.

 

[Shelly888]

Likely my last post here. I have reread every comment made as well as teacher emails. I am hearing you guys, thanking you and, do appreciate helping me step outside and see things in a different light(which was why I even posted in the first place). It takes a lot of courage to post in my REAL screen name to complete strangers such personal information about my family. I did it to HELP my son, although some of you aren't seeing that.

I did get a lot of very helpful advice and I am very thankful for that. Since I know you are thinking I am avoiding discussing how behavior at scouts was handled I will tell you. I happen to work full time, have a 2 year old, and a 7 year old that is obviously going through a hard time. He was removed from scouts, brought home, and sent to bed. There was no tv or computer for several days. He also had to write sentences stating he would not act up in scouts.

Most posts were helpful and polite. Two did stick out to me as mean spirited and unkind.

 

[sam_gordon]

We have trimesters at our school, so we have only had two report cards so far. Maybe this is the case for the OP

I did not consider trimesters. You are correct.

 

[Shelly888]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=42786370#post42786370

How did this testing go? Did you get results? You seem so focused on the issue with your son stemming from a learning disability.

Also, it seems you were aware of your son having problems in school from the beginning of the school year. It also seems you have been blaming the teachers since the beginning.

If you had read the thread you'd have the answer. But instead you seem to just want to dig up dirt from past posts. He was evaluated in December, I have been in contact with him twice since, and still no report.

I would be VERY surprised if he does not have a learning disability. He suffered mild hearing loss most of his young life, only passing a hearing test mid way through kindergarden. He was in ST until K, had a lot of articulation issues, and this has complicated his success in school. He has a lot of difficulty with phoenemic awareness, mostly stemming from the fact that when he was learning to speak he was not hearing correctly. I have stated his behavior problems *could* be from an undiagnosed LD. It *could* also be him being a brat. It *could* also be because he is being bullied/teased in some way. It could also be because he is being a brat.

I have never suggested that I don't think my son has accountability for his behavior. I most certainly believe he does. I know it's my job as a parent to teach him how to behave and discipline him. I also think it's *Part* of the school's responsibility to help him acheive the social skills needed to succeed and hopefully do well. School is NOT just about learning to read and write.