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[PollyannaMom]

The locket is supposed to have a serpent on it, in the shape of an "S". I wonder what would happen if Harry spoke to it in Parseltongue....

That's brilliant!!! - I definitely think that's what will do it.

And I would have guessed it was still at 12GP, but I like the idea that Albeforth may have it, too. My question is, did RAB already "fix" it, or does that still have to be done?


As for Snape, I agree with the several recent posts that he will both turn out to do something good, and die in book 7. He's almost too complicated a character to "live happily ever after."

 

[va32h]

It would ruin the book for me if Snape was really bad. I'm serious.

What a cop out. What a NON twist. If Snape WAS going to be bad the twist should have come in book 7 but it did in book 6...that is a BAD TWIST placement in my opinion. Since it happened in book 6 he will have to be redeemed in book 7.

If it turns out that he is bad I will be annoyed because all clues point to that he is good. From the fact that Harry is always wrong about everything (but suddenly he is RIGHT about Snape) to the fact that it would totally SMEAR DD's good name. He trusted Snape for no good reason? He's just an idiot? and he let him be the Dada teacher even knowing that it's a cursed position?

Harry doesn't even have enough magic to kill Voldemort...it will have to be Snape in my opinion. I don't think he will ever be a 'good' guy...but he will be redeemed.

Yes, this is what I feel as well. Snape is carrying around a lot of guilt and self loathing about something...and when he is able to resolve that, then he can kill Voldemort and die in peace.

If it's about the Potters, which it probably is at least in part, Harry's willingness to forgive may be what Snape needs to hear. At the very least, Harry forgiving Snape will be good for Harry. It will keep him from being captive to an old bitterness, the way Snape has been his whole life.

I know the Snape-loved-Lily theory is really popular, but I've never liked it, partially because I don't think romantic love is as big a factor in the books as other kinds of love.

What I would like to see is a story in which Regulus Black and Snape were friends, and that Snape had to witness Regulus' death, or even be ordered to perform it. Or that Regulus joined the DE at Snape's encouragment and got himself killed. And any of these is what makes Snape turn against Voldemort.

Harry understands the importance of a close male friend - his relationship with Ron obviously, but even his relationships with Sirius and Hagrid are more peer than father-son. Whatever Snape's reason for repenting, I think it has to be something Harry will accept, and I just see a friendship thing being more understandable to Harry than Snape loving his mother.

So that's my personal wish.

And I would have guessed it was still at 12GP, but I like the idea that Albeforth may have it, too. My question is, did RAB already "fix" it, or does that still have to be done?

I hope it's "fixed" because Harry needs to save time wherever he can, one book left to wrap everything up! But it's possible that RAB was killed before he could destroy it.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

What I meant was that Harry would find a way to, while still alive, travel to the land of the dead, and back. It is a cliche, but it's the sort of cliche that is found in this type of story. Like the Odyssey, the Iliad, the Epic of Gilgamesh, Prometheus, etc.

I'm sure that JKR can find a non-cheesy way to do it, if that's what she wants to do.

Oh yes, I understood the reference to the mono-myth. While a lot of Harry's story fits the archetype, I think JKR veers off of it quite a bit; enough to depart from that section of the journey. It would fit, but I can see it going another way too. There is such a lack of discussion and even knowledge of the afterlife in the HP-verse that I think it might be too much to expect Harry to travel there. I guess I just don't want it to be cliche...

But...we did get a reference to Cerberus (the three-headed dog who guards the underworld and has serpentine qualities) in Fluffy in SS, so who knows... a trip to Hades could be in the works...

Since we're on the subject of the underworld, I'm gonna put my Mythology minor to good use and speculate a little bit...

JKR wrote on a bust of Hermes at the hotel where she finished her book. Hermes was a messenger (like Percy's owl) but Hermes also escorted people to the underworld. He was one of the few who could enter and leave the underworld at will. The word "hermeneutics" also comes from Hermes-- finding hidden meaning in a text. This could be connected to Hermione's study of ancient runes. So maybe it is a clue about Harry's upcoming journey?

Take that as you will. Pure speculation on my part, but interesting. She could have easily graffitied whatever was decorating her room, Greek god or not.

In my sillier moments, I imagine Harry leaping through the veil with a rope tied around his waist, which Hermione and Ron are holding fast to. But a near-death experience is more sophisticated. Or perhaps one of his visionary dreams.

I, too, have had visions of a rope tied Harry leaping through the curtain and being pulled back! It is something impulsive Harry might try to do. Lupin saved him once from jumping through so if he goes back, it will be a different, more serious way.

Harry doesn't even have enough magic to kill Voldemort...it will have to be Snape in my opinion. I don't think he will ever be a 'good' guy...but he will be redeemed.

I think Snape will be redeemed in death. I waver back and forth between wanting Snape or Harry to kill V but I do think Snape might die in the process of helping Harry. Snape has some kind of debt or connection or emotional issue to fulfill and I think he will only be relieved upon death.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I know she's said that - I'm just holding out hope because I think Harry truly needs to learn more from him! (I can't find anywhere where she's specifically said Albus Dumbledore is dead... Technically she wouldn't be lying by saying "Dumbledore" if it was really Aberforth...) Can't a girl hope!?!?!?

Yes, a girl can always hope! Nothing wrong with that...

 

[LiLIrishChick63]

I, too, have had visions of a rope tied Harry

wow...you know.....i read that and for some reason i had those photos of Daniel Radcliffe flash before my eyes from his new play.....

 

[va32h]

JKR wrote on a bust of Hermes at the hotel where she finished her book. Hermes was a messenger (like Percy's owl) but Hermes also escorted people to the underworld. He was one of the few who could enter and leave the underworld at will. The word "hermeneutics" also comes from Hermes-- finding hidden meaning in a text. This could be connected to Hermione's study of ancient runes. So maybe it is a clue about Harry's upcoming journey?

I also think we should hear something about Hermione's Ancient Runes studies, she is always talking about them in the books. I mentioned A Wrinkle in Time before, in one of Madeline L'Engle's sequels - A Swiftly Tilting Planet, they used rune to combat and evil leader who kept regenerating generation after generation.

A lot of people have been saying there's a big alchemy connection with that bust...I've read a bunch of articles about all these alchemical references in HP, and that JKR studied alchemy when she was crafting the whole outline for the books.

I could not understand any of the articles or essays - all of it went completely over my head. But apparently Harry is entering his gold phase, whatever that means. And it's bad news for Hagrid because Rubeus means red, and the red phase has to burn off. Or something like that. It's really confusing. I wish they had Alchemy for Dummies or something.

I wonder if there is a way for Sirius to communicate with Harry. Like if Harry stands reeeeaallly close to the veil and listens intently. I vaguely recall JKR saying something about the way Sirius died being unique - in that he didn't really die, but fell through the veil while still alive. But that could be wishful thinking on my part.

 

[TinkInPink]

I just had an epiphany
What about Hermione. What if she dies and this is a sign. HERMione HERMes. They are so close... if she dies i don't know what id do

 

[AuroraBorealis]

wow...you know.....i read that and for some reason i had those photos of Daniel Radcliffe flash before my eyes from his new play.....

Ahhh! Now I sound like a dirty old woman! Well, not that old, I only have seven years on him...

 

[SueM in MN]

I know the Snape-loved-Lily theory is really popular, but I've never liked it, partially because I don't think romantic love is as big a factor in the books as other kinds of love.

I don't think that there was romantic love, but I do think love (maybe friend to friend) love will come into play.

What I would like to see is a story in which Regulus Black and Snape were friends, and that Snape had to witness Regulus' death, or even be ordered to perform it. Or that Regulus joined the DE at Snape's encouragment and got himself killed. And any of these is what makes Snape turn against Voldemort.

We do know from the tapestry at Sirius's house that Regulus died about 15 years before the beginning of the Order of the Phoenix book begins.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

A lot of people have been saying there's a big alchemy connection with that bust...

But apparently Harry is entering his gold phase, whatever that means. And it's bad news for Hagrid because Rubeus means red, and the red phase has to burn off. Or something like that.

No! Not Hagrid! His giant blood has protected him so far and JKR takes care to point out that he is nearly indestructible.

I don't know anything about alchemy. If I have some free time at work, I might read up on it and see what I can figure out.

What about Hermione. What if she dies and this is a sign. HERMione HERMes. They are so close... if she dies i don't know what id do

Oh gosh, I hope not. I love that bossy, bushy-haired girl!

I wonder if there is a way for Sirius to communicate with Harry. Like if Harry stands reeeeaallly close to the veil and listens intently. I vaguely recall JKR saying something about the way Sirius died being unique - in that he didn't really die, but fell through the veil while still alive. But that could be wishful thinking on my part.

Somebody said the the two-way mirror will come into play again.

Sirius' death puzzles me. And, to an extent, the treatment of death in the wizarding world. I have tons of questions about it and I'm hoping book 7 will answer them.

Nearly-Headless Nick points out that death is still a big mystery and is being studied at the Ministry-- the arch and veil is in the Department of Mysteries. But--how did Lupin know he was dead after he fell through the veil? We know wizards leave behind bodies when they die, but where did Sirius' body go? Can he come back? When I first read that scene in OOtP, I thought it was some kind of limbo and that he would be back.

Why is so little known about the afterlife when there are magical options? Is there a version of heaven and hell? Is there any kind of Creator-type figure who might orchestrate life and death? Does the mystery surrounding death lend to Voldemort believing there is nothing worse than death itself? With Sirius's unusual death, how do they separate body and soul? How exactly do ghosts work-- not a live body and not quite gone from the living? (I think JKR said the ghost question would be answered in book 7.)

What about the voices? Why is it only whispers and not a clear, conversational voice? Does this mean the dead might have access to the living? Is it a purgatory-like place? I've said this before, but I think Luna will have a lot to do with answers about death. She heard the voices, she sees thestrals, etc.

So-- that is just some of the questions I have regarding the mystery of death. Feel free to speculate about it (or not) or jump in with your own ideas!

 

[HomeSweetDisney]

I just had an epiphany
What about Hermione. What if she dies and this is a sign. HERMione HERMes. They are so close... if she dies i don't know what id do

Oh my gosh, don't even say it! I would be absolutely devastated if Hermione died. She is my favorite character out of the whole series.

 

[SueM in MN]

Oh my gosh, don't even say it! I would be absolutely devastated if Hermione died. She is my favorite character out of the whole series.

In one interview when JKRowling was asked which 5 of her characters she would most like to meet in real life, she answered Harry, Ron and Hermione. Then she said she better stop because she was not sure if she could answer characters who had died. That was taken to mean that those 3, atleast would probably live.

 

[SueM in MN]

No! Not Hagrid! His giant blood has protected him so far and JKR takes care to point out that he is nearly indestructible.

I don't know anything about alchemy. If I have some free time at work, I might read up on it and see what I can figure out.



Oh gosh, I hope not. I love that bossy, bushy-haired girl!



Somebody said the the two-way mirror will come into play again.

Sirius' death puzzles me. And, to an extent, the treatment of death in the wizarding world. I have tons of questions about it and I'm hoping book 7 will answer them.

Nearly-Headless Nick points out that death is still a big mystery and is being studied at the Ministry-- the arch and veil is in the Department of Mysteries. But--how did Lupin know he was dead after he fell through the veil? We know wizards leave behind bodies when they die, but where did Sirius' body go? Can he come back? When I first read that scene in OOtP, I thought it was some kind of limbo and that he would be back.

Why is so little known about the afterlife when there are magical options? Is there a version of heaven and hell? Is there any kind of Creator-type figure who might orchestrate life and death? Does the mystery surrounding death lend to Voldemort believing there is nothing worse than death itself? With Sirius's unusual death, how do they separate body and soul? How exactly do ghosts work-- not a live body and not quite gone from the living? (I think JKR said the ghost question would be answered in book 7.)

What about the voices? Why is it only whispers and not a clear, conversational voice? Does this mean the dead might have access to the living? Is it a purgatory-like place? I've said this before, but I think Luna will have a lot to do with answers about death. She heard the voices, she sees thestrals, etc.

So-- that is just some of the questions I have regarding the mystery of death. Feel free to speculate about it (or not) or jump in with your own ideas!

I don't have any answers, but I agree that there is much more than is visible about the veil.
And, I agree with you about Luna. She seems kind of ditzy, but there is a lot of truth (in a strange sort of way) to what she says.

 

[HomeSweetDisney]

In one interview when JKRowling was asked which 5 of her characters she would most like to meet in real life, she answered Harry, Ron and Hermione. Then she said she better stop because she was not sure if she could answer characters who had died. That was taken to mean that those 3, atleast would probably live.

I certainly hope so. I know this probably sounds bad, but I would be WAY more upset if Hermione or Ron died as opposed to Harry.

And as for Luna...she's so great. I really love her character. She comes off as ditzy but as Harry has often observed, she has a knack for speaking the truth no matter how uncomfortable it may be. There's definitely a side to Luna...a more spiritual, deep, and wise side that JKR hasn't fully explored yet. I hope she gives us plenty of Ms. Lovegood in book 7

 

[TurboKitty]

There's something I've wondered about, but never taken the time to research myself...

My favorite character is Ron. In passing, I've noticed many of his divinations homework answers turn out to be true, though some in a roundabout and not literal and exact way...

Anyone else notice this or am I completely offbase?

 

[HomeSweetDisney]

My favorite character is Ron. In passing, I've noticed many of his divinations homework answers turn out to be true, though some in a roundabout and not literal and exact way...

Like what? I'm not sure I'm following. Can you give me some examples?

 

[AuroraBorealis]

There's something I've wondered about, but never taken the time to research myself...

My favorite character is Ron. In passing, I've noticed many of his divinations homework answers turn out to be true, though some in a roundabout and not literal and exact way...

Anyone else notice this or am I completely offbase?

Can you give examples? I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

 

[N&B'smom]

There's a link on the Drudge Report to a picture of Harry. He's nekkid!! (it's from the back btw) Just thought I'd let you know.

Shelby

 

[TurboKitty]

Let's see, first there was;

"My turn..."Ron peered into Harry's teacup, his forehead wrinkled with effort. "There's a blob a bit like a bowler hat," he said. "Maybe you're going to work for the Ministry of Magic..."
He turned the teacup the other way up.
"But this way looks more like an acorn...What's that?" He scanned his copy of Unfogging The Future. "'A windfall, unexpected gold.' Excellent, you can lend me some..." (pages 105 & 106 HP&POA paperback edition)

Which seems to foreshadow some events in GOF...

 

[Kycha]

There's a link on the Drudge Report to a picture of Harry. He's nekkid!! (it's from the back btw) Just thought I'd let you know.

Shelby

Looks like tonight is the night that Daniel Radcliffe bares all!! His play debuts tonight. I wonder what the reviews will be like?