"Mothers don't stop Getting angry with stupid bigots who (mess) with their children!"

You can not compare the topics of: Black rights/women rights and the gay rights. breast enlargements and a sex change

They aren't the same to compare them is idiotic. It's like comparing oranges and plums.
 
I'm not opposed to plastic surgery. Why would i be? This isn't just plastic surgery though. This is changing much more than droopy eyes or getting bigger breasts or reducing them. They aren't comparable. It's not just some simple surgery that enhances someones appearance.

No matter what Chasity is Chasity Bono and she is XX. Her brain needed changing and healing, not her body.

Who's to say the brain is wrong and the body is right?
 
I'm not opposed to plastic surgery. Why would i be? This isn't just plastic surgery though. This is changing much more than droopy eyes or getting bigger breasts or reducing them. They aren't comparable. It's not just some simple surgery that enhances someones appearance.

No matter what Chasity is Chasity Bono and she is XX. Her brain needed changing and healing, not her body.

Considering the only surgery he's had is on his chest, how is it not comparable, exactly?

Also, again, you disagree with decades of medical and psychological science and research on this issue.
 

You can not compare the topics of: Black rights/women rights and the gay rights.

Huh? I think there are a lot of parallels between the civil rights movement of the 1960 and the current fight for equal rights for homosexuals. Some are so alike it is disheartening to watch the nation repeat them.
 
You can not compare the topics of: Black rights/women rights and the gay rights. breast enlargements and a sex change

They aren't the same to compare them is idiotic. It's like comparing oranges and plums.

Ok, AGAIN, Chaz Bono is not gay.

However, as we're already here so why not dance.... how, specifically, are gay rights not comparable to civil rights/women's rights? Because to me, they're exactly the same. I do not understand what you feel makes them different.
 
I'm not opposed to plastic surgery. Why would i be? This isn;t just plastic surgery though. This is changing much more than droopy eyes or getting bigger ****s or reducing them. They aren't comparable.

No matter what Chasity is Chasity Bono and she is XX. Her brain needed changing and healing, not her body.

First off, you don't KNOW she's XX.

Also, did you know there are XYs who look female in every way? It's called androgen insensitivity, and these people are born looking perfectly female. In fact, when they hit puberty, they often become stunningly beautiful women, tall, very little body hair, big breasts. Usually they self-identify as women. And yet they are chromosomally male. Many of them don't find out until they start investigating why they're infertile.

In modern science there's growing evidence that gender is more than just your chromosomes. It's in the chemicals you were bathed in, when you were in the womb. It's in your brain structures! It's right down in your DNA, and it's a LOT more fluid that you can possibly imagine. It's not either/or, it's a continuum.

Oh... and that's not even counting chimeras! There are folks born with TWO different sets of DNA. It's hard to say how many of them there are, because most will go undetected their whole lives. But there is one famous case of a woman whose uterus was actually that of a fraternal twin. She was required to get her kids a DNA test for welfare purposes, and the test came back saying she wasn't the mother, even though she had given birth to them herself!

Try reading up on it, sometime.
 
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Considering the only surgery he's had is on his chest, how is it not comparable, exactly?

Also, again, you disagree with decades of medical and psychological science and research on this issue.

I'm not alone in disagreeing. There are many medical and Psychological professional that don't agree at all with gender changing
It's been real kiddies. Good to see that unless you become a robot to the propaganda you are wrong and stupid. Chasity was born Xx and still is a female in my book, so she is gay in my book.
 
I'm not alone in disagreeing. There are many medical and Psychological professional that don't agree at all with gender changing
It's been real kiddies. Good to see that unless you become a robot to the propaganda you are wrong and stupid. Chasity was born Xx and still is a female in my book, so she is gay in my book.

If "disagressing" with you makes me a robot, then I'm damn proud to be one.
 
I'm not alone in disagreeing. There are many medical and Psychological professional that don't agree at all with gender changing
It's been real kiddies. Good to see that unless you become a robot to the propaganda you are wrong and stupid. Chasity was born Xx and still is a female in my book, so she is gay in my book.


Just who has fallen for all the propaganda? I tihnk you need to look in the mirror.
 
I'm not alone in disagreeing. There are many medical and Psychological professional that don't agree at all with gender changing
It's been real kiddies. Good to see that unless you become a robot to the propaganda you are wrong and stupid. Chasity was born Xx and still is a female in my book, so she is gay in my book.

Ok, so you can't explain how gay rights differ from civil rights. Gotcha.

No one said you were alone in disagreeing. Yes, there are people who disagree. I'd think there are about as many medical and psychological "professionals" who agree with you as there are who agree that evolution is bunk and science classes should teach creationism, etc., etc., etc. Hey, it may be the same little group of quacks roaming from issue to issue, who knows?

This isn't "propoganda" it's, again, decades and decades of science. Just because you don't like it or somehow disagree with science you don't seem much aware of doesn't mean it's 'propoganda.'
 
You can not compare the topics of: Black rights/women rights and the gay rights. breast enlargements and a sex change

They aren't the same to compare them is idiotic. It's like comparing oranges and plums.

Sure you can compare-you just don't like it.
 
I'm not alone in disagreeing. There are many medical and Psychological professional that don't agree at all with gender changing
It's been real kiddies. Good to see that unless you become a robot to the propaganda you are wrong and stupid. Chasity was born Xx and still is a female in my book, so she is gay in my book.


And you'd still be wrong.
 
The problem is that too many people now believe in indoctrination, rather than education.

After all, it's much easier to have someone (or some "group") TELL you what to think, than actually learn to think for yourself... and people are nothing if not lazy!

Actually I some times think its the exact opposite. It must take a heck of a lot of work to stay so rigid in a belief. Author Maya Angelo spoke about this.

Although she was talking about racist, it pretty much fits. "in order to deny some one else there rights, you must spend tons of energy and time to do it".

How much work it must be to completely isolate yourself so you don't have to try and understand some one who's not like you?

How much work it must take to hold to stereotypes. God forbid, you actually interact with a gay couple then where would you be? You'd find out they pretty much have the same day to day life as hetros and then you'd have to actually confront some of your (your in the general sense) assumptions.
 
If "disagressing" with you makes me a robot, then I'm damn proud to be one.

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You can not compare the topics of: Black rights/women rights and the gay rights. breast enlargements and a sex change

They aren't the same to compare them is idiotic. It's like comparing oranges and plums.

Just to clarify, are you saying that you can't compare black rights/women's rights with gay rights or black rights/women's rights/gay rights with breast enlargements and sex change operations?
 
Ok, AGAIN, Chaz Bono is not gay.

However, as we're already here so why not dance.... how, specifically, are gay rights not comparable to civil rights/women's rights? Because to me, they're exactly the same. I do not understand what you feel makes them different.
My thoughts exactly! :thumbsup2
 
You can not compare the topics of: Black rights/women rights and the gay rights. breast enlargements and a sex change

They aren't the same to compare them is idiotic. It's like comparing oranges and plums.

Huh?! You can't see the parallels between those? I thought it was obvious.

I think this probably stems from a belief that people choose their sexuality vs it being biological.
 

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