Mickey pool closed for 2 hours

[3DisneyNUTS]

Originally posted by ILUVDCL
What about kids who can NOT be potty trained!?
There are kids with physical problems that will never be 'potty trained'! Do they just have to sit and watch?

exactly and trust me we probably all don't want to go there. I am sure there are adults who make decisions to go in the pool. Actually there was mention on this in another thread where someone saw yellow around a guest at a resort pool. It happens and hopefully the amount of chemicals used protects us. But to think that it is just childern IMO is silly.

 

[crisi]

Accidents do happen. I've had at least one "accident" in the past ten years that's forced me to go home from work. In my case it was a bug of some kind.

But if your kid is still having regular "accidents" when they are busy or tired or just because (as opposed to the ones they have when they are ill), they are not yet potty trained enough to use the pool or the kids clubs. Sorry. Regular accidents do NOT equal potty trained - it means they are still potty training.

Kids with physical problems have to learn to sit and watch a lot of stuff in life. I don't care about sterile urine, but yes, a child who can not control their bowels needs to be kept from the pool. All sorts of bad illnessess are carried in feces, and we don't need DCL to be a site of a cholera outbreak.

My kids will poop in the middle of the day. And they will (and have) pooped in water (nothing like cleaning out the bathtub). Fortunately, they are finally both potty trained with no accidents for over a year!

 

[ILUVDCL]

crisi-
glad your kids have no health problems but I'm sure if they did, you'd want them to be able to do alot of stuff other kids do!

 

[DVCDawn]

..no one says to their children "Go ahead honey, poop in the pool. " Parents find out their kid has pooped in their pants after the fact, unless they have some untold psychic abilities. You can't stop it, so you simply do your best to prevent it. They don't call them accidents for nothing.

You should all be thankful that once the situation is discovered that Disney takes the necessary steps to correct it. So, you have to get out of the pool for a few hours. You mean to tell me there's nothing else to do on that big giant boat?

 

[disneyjunkie]

Originally posted by DVCDawn
[BYou mean to tell me there's nothing else to do on that big giant boat? [/B]

Can't the same be said for the kids that aren't potty trained?

I understand kids have accidents. But each parent knows if their child is fully trained or not.

Other than a case of diarrhea, how can a parent that's watching their child not know the child is about to have a BM. My son will be 13 in a few months, but I still remember that "poop face."

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

Originally posted by disneyjunkie
Can't the same be said for the kids that aren't potty trained?

I understand kids have accidents. But each parent knows if their child is fully trained or not.

Other than a case of diarrhea, how can a parent that's watching their child not know the child is about to have a BM. My son will be 13 in a few months, but I still remember that "poop face."

So you watch every person in your families face constantly and can know exactly when they are going to poo? Come on. It was an accident and granted kids who are not fully potty trained parents need to take the nessesscary precautions like plastic pants, keep them out of the pool whatever....but with this said it could have been a kid who is potty trained not wanting to get out of the pool, or not making it out of the pool or even still how the heck do we know it was not an adult?

This stuff happenes in a public pool and that is just how it is. How do you even know that the parent didn't leave to tell someone? It is getting blown way out of proportion unfortunately sometimes people poo in a public pool and to think otherwise is fooling yourself.

 

[justcruisin]

Why not have (and enforce) a swim diaper policy? Most public pools and some hotels do this.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Originally posted by 3DisneyNUTS
So you watch every person in your families face constantly and can know exactly when they are going to poo? Come on.

When we were in pools, yes. I only have one child, when he was young I was always in pools with him. I knew when I needed to get him out of the water.

I understand that kids,and in some cases adults, will have accidents.

What I don't understand is why parents that know their kids are not fully trained will not follow Disney's policy and keep their kids in the proper area. Why run the risk of making others sick?

I've read other threads where people said they would take their kids to the pool no matter what the policy says. Why someone would do that is beyond me.

 

[crisi]

Originally posted by ILUVDCL
crisi-
glad your kids have no health problems but I'm sure if they did, you'd want them to be able to do alot of stuff other kids do!

You are right, I would. It would break my heart not to watch them swim on a cruise - and we probably just wouldn't cruise, but instead choose vacations where they could participate fully.

But I wouldn't expect my kids health problems to potentially impact the health of others around them over something like swimming in the Mickey Pool. That simply is selfish.

 

[crisi]

No one here wants to have their cruise cancelled due to another outbreak of Norwalk. A cruise ship is a different beast than your local pool. Because there are so many people in such tight quarters for a period of time that is just about perfect for the incubation of a lot of viruses, they are the perfect breeding ground for a whole bunch of people to get ill. That is why they don't allow rubber pants or swim diapers and your local pool does. If this is such an outrage, don't cruise until your kids are fully potty trained. If your kids will never be fully potty trained and this is an outrage, don't cruise. There are plenty of hotel pools, local pools, lakes and oceans where swim diapers are perfectly acceptable. They aren't on a cruise ship.

 

[Bopperdoodle]

O.K. here are a few more details. It was early in the morning. There was only a handful of people in/at the pool. I'm sure it was an accident. It did seem to be from a small child. The parent may have been planning on telling someone. It just happened so quick and was taken care of immediately. In most cases a little boy has on a loose swim trunk and it can get out easily. I am totally for the swim diapers. If your child still has accidents or you think that they may get too distracted to tell you they need to go, then use a swim diaper. Better safe than sorry.

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

Originally posted by crisi
You are right, I would. It would break my heart not to watch them swim on a cruise - and we probably just wouldn't cruise, but instead choose vacations where they could participate fully.

But I wouldn't expect my kids health problems to potentially impact the health of others around them over something like swimming in the Mickey Pool. That simply is selfish.

OMG you have no idea what you would do. Please don't even speculate. A child no matter what his ability can enjoy a cruise and unless the child is charged a lesser rate then they should be able to use a PUBLIC pool. If you want to avoid all risks from using a PUBLIC pool then maybe you should be the one that shouldn't cruise. This world is made up of all children of all abilities the typical ones should not be considered to have all the rights while the special needs kids be left home PLEASE. This thread has made me sick now and it is not from the poo...I have to bow out PM me if you wish to discuss further but I am DONE!

 

[crisi]

I don't have to speculate. Both my own kids are healthy (thank God), but that is not the case for everyone in my family.

Please don't speculate on my circumstances, you know NOTHING about them as I know NOTHING about yours.

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

Originally posted by crisi
I don't have to speculate. Both my own kids are healthy (thank God), but that is not the case for everyone in my family.

Please don't speculate on my circumstances, you know NOTHING about them as I know NOTHING about yours.

Correct but you said what you would do if YOUR children...I am sorry but unless you lived with HAVING your own child go through doctor visits, therapy and special education DAILY you have no idea what you would want for them on vacation. AND I can assure you it wouldn't be to let them sit by and watch others have fun in a pool or tell them there is something else on the list that they cannot do. They have rights just like your children do. So like I said stay out of a public pool if you don't want the risks..

Ok I apologize I said I was bowing out and I didn't I couldn't help myself.

 

[mrsltg]

This is getting a little more heated than it should. No one wants their child to have to sit and watch the other kids having fun. No one wants their child to be disabled in any way. I think we can all agree on that. The reason that the pools on cruise ships aren't for non-potty trained kids is that they are not chlorinated the way a big pool on land is. I am sure that the pools at the resorts and water parks are shocked fairly regularly. There is also a lot more room in the wave pool at Typhoon Lagoon than there is in one of the ears at the Mickey Pool. More space=more water=disappation of dangerous bacteria.

I don't kid myself into thinking that the pools onboard the ship are going to be perfectly clean. Like the last time we cruised, I will tell my daughter not to put any water in her mouth, and she will be showered each time we leave the pool. It's the best I can do.

I hope that everyone enjoys their cruise!

Erin

 

[ldb1030]

Well said 3DisneyNUTS!

 

[Pacha]

I guess I have to jump in to support crisi. I think the point is that it doesn't matter if your child has special needs or not...rules are rules. If they are not potty trained (which means trained,not in the process) they are to be in a swim diaper and to stay in the ear. They may not like it, but that's the rules and they are there for the health of ALL the people using the pool.

 

[ldb1030]

We'd just all better hope the 'potty trained' kids AND adults don't have accidents!

 

[Pacha]

But there is a difference between an accident (yes I agree they do happen) and intentionally letting a non-potty trained child in the pool. For example...your child is fully potty tarined and they have an accident in the pool, while it's bad from a health stand point, you were still following the rules as your child was PT. Now if your child is not PT and you let them use the pool and they have an accident, not only is bad from a health stand point, you intentionally broke the rules. Imagine if they didn't have the rules and let a child in any pool weather they were potty trained or not and didn't require a swim diaper. And as to public pools they have pretty much the same rules. If your child isn't PT they need a swim diaper(although they can usually use the whole pool).

 

[3DisneyNUTS]

Originally posted by Pacha
But there is a difference between an accident (yes I agree they do happen) and intentionally letting a non-potty trained child in the pool. For example...your child is fully potty tarined and they have an accident in the pool, while it's bad from a health stand point, you were still following the rules as your child was PT. Now if your child is not PT and you let them use the pool and they have an accident, not only is bad from a health stand point, you intentionally broke the rules. Imagine if they didn't have the rules and let a child in any pool weather they were potty trained or not and didn't require a swim diaper. And as to public pools they have pretty much the same rules. If your child isn't PT they need a swim diaper(although they can usually use the whole pool).

Sadly this thread is now focusing on disabled children which I can guess that the child that had the accident most likely not disabled. I would say typically parents of disabled children prepare well for this issue and I can almost guarantee they do everything they can from preventing this from happening. BUt with that said it was an accident and the child who did it most likely did not have parents who allowed the child to poo in the pool. I know just from my own experience, I have a fully potty trained over 5 year old family member who wet themself because they did not want to stop playing, they had too much fun to stop what they were doing. Kids do not realize the full consequences of their actions and of course my familiy member wound up having to stop any way because they wet themselves so basically the plan backfired. So who knows if the child/adult that has an accident was capable of holding it until they were out of the pool that is irrelevant. It is gonna happen no matter what the policy is.

And let Disney enforce the rules on the boat and stop stressing out on who is in the pool and who isn't obviously it is not such a huge problem or the rule would be enforced more don't you thinK? I would highly doubt that if children poo in the pool everyday of every cruise Disney would allow that to continue. It obviously doesn't happen alot so let DCL figure out what needs to be done. Again it is a risk of offering a public pool.