Michelle Duggar miscarries

[Heidict]

I think it is absolutely disgusting that anyone would blame a parent for the miscarriage of their baby.

There are women out there that are habitual aborters. Do you blame them also and feel no sympathy for them when they have a miscarriage? After all they knew that they had a huge increased chance of having that miscarriage if they got pregnant again, right?

I feel horrible for the Duggars. Agree or not with their lifestyle or their beliefs, to lose a child is heartbreaking.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I have a biochemistry degree, and I know how to read a scientific study. ....

I am not sure what a "doctorates" degree is.

One OB who hasn't examined her said this. S

When did you examine and treat Mrs. Duggar and review her full medical history?

When will you be testing her deceased baby?

 

[handinpocket]

I am not sure what a "doctorates" degree is.

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Ummm yeah, thought that might be the case.....

http://www.geteducated.com/career-center/detail/what-is-a-doctorate-degree

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Ummm yeah, thought that might be the case.....

http://www.geteducated.com/career-center/detail/what-is-a-doctorate-degree

I think she was pokin' fun at yer spellin'/grammer.

 

[Aisling]

I won't go as far as saying she "caused" the miscarriage, however:

Getting pregnant 21 times.
Giving birth to 19 children.
Having the children close together.
Last pregnancy was high-risk.
Having a serious complication which could have caused her death and/or the death of the baby.
Becoming pregnant again before the micro-premie is two years old.
Age 45=higher risk of chromosomal abnormalities.


If I'm not mistaken, I believe I've read that the uterus loses elasticity and develops scar tissue with super-frequent usage which makes it less than ideal for carrying a baby to term.

She's playing russian roulette now.

 

[handinpocket]

I think she was pokin' fun at yer spellin'/grammer.

Seriously, because I left an apostrophe off? I think someone that habitually says there for their has no room for "pokin' fun".

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Seriously, because I left an apostrophe off? I think someone that habitually says there for their has no room for "pokin' fun".

Tends to happen when there isn't much left to make their case.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

I'm finding it hard to understand why it's better for the baby to not try and conceive it at all vs conceiving and perhaps miscarrying or perhaps having a healthy baby.

If you don't try, no baby, if you try and miscarry, no baby. So is the baby somehow better off never being concieved as opposed to being miscarried? No conceive, no chance, right?

Sooooo...why is the baby better off never having a chance as opposed to having a chance? Just wondering.

I'd like to add that it's really disturbing to see so many people enthusiastically jump on the hater wagon because a family lost a baby and place the blame on the parents.

Really. Creepy.

Enjoy yourselves.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I won't go as far as saying she "caused" the miscarriage, however:

Getting pregnant 21 times.
Giving birth to 19 children.
Having the children close together.
Last pregnancy was high-risk.
Having a serious complication which could have caused her death and/or the death of the baby.
Becoming pregnant again before the micro-premie is two years old.
Age 45=higher risk of chromosomal abnormalities.


If I'm not mistaken, I believe I've read that the uterus loses elasticity and develops scar tissue with super-frequent usage which makes it less than ideal for carrying a baby to term.

She's playing russian roulette now.

True...

But scientifically---there is mom's health, baby's health, and the health of all that is in the womb. She had a baby that just died...it seems that mom's health and health of the womb would have contributed to not being able to carry to term.

Age by itself is an issue for any woman regardless of the number of gestations--her 19 kids have nothing to do with that.

Last pregnancy was high risk due to her health, not baby.

Baby was a micro-preemie due to mom's health, not baby.

I can appreciate all of the arguments...but bottom line, if something was wrong with the baby--the baby could have been lost no matter which number he/she was. Constant posting of things that could happen to any mom doesn't really prove anything.

Michelle is just an easy target and the public is just looking for ways to pin it on the fact that she has 19 children by mentioning things that have nothing to do with the quantity of children she has had.

It's very sad. And as with any death--folks need someone to blame. And because this family leads a public life, they have their villain.

And on privacy (mentioned earlier with much mockery in the thread)--we all choose how public or private we wish to be and we are all well within our inalienable rights to "turn the cameras off" so to speak and ask for privacy.

 

[YodaGirl]

Thousands of women have miscarriages every day. I've had more than a few myself. Very few women have some bizarre need to make the miscarriage into yet another self-serving media circus.

Everything about these people sickens me.

Since everything that the family does is in the public spotlight (albeit by choice), then it stands to reason that they would make this public knowledge, as well. After all, I'm pretty sure that we'd all figure it out several months from now when there isn't a baby born.

I'm sure that they feel as though this is has given them another opportunity to demonstrate their faith.

You seem hell bent on stating that she was at an increased risk due to number of pregnancies....

The OB on the Today show (can't remember her credentials but she teaches at a medical school), when pressed by Ann Curry who was practically insisting the OB blame it no her number of gestations, said that was not a likely cause of the miscarriage. The OB stated it likely had more to do with age.

Now, I did not tivo it--but i'm sure you can pull the interview up on Youtube.

You seem terribly misguided due to your very biased "opinions" that you are perfectly entitled to have.

But the fact remains is--that miscarriage is likely for any woman of any age for any reason.

There are women whose baby just dies in utero in latter stages of pregnancy.

We are all at risk of this.


All we know is--it was a routine visit and she did not labor. Nothing occurred. The baby simply died in utero. So while you can feel free to keep spewing your hatred of the parents....the same thing can still happen to you or I or anyone else be it our first or 20th child. To believe otherwise is simply naive. To vilify the family as though they are in some unique position to have this happen to them is ridiculous and insulting to any woman who has suffered through a loss.

I'm finding it hard to understand why it's better for the baby to not try and conceive it at all vs conceiving and perhaps miscarrying or perhaps having a healthy baby.

If you don't try, no baby, if you try and miscarry, no baby. So is the baby somehow better off never being concieved as opposed to being miscarried? No conceive, no chance, right?

Sooooo...why is the baby better off never having a chance as opposed to having a chance? Just wondering.

I'd like to add that it's really disturbing to see so many people enthusiastically jump on the hater wagon because a family lost a baby and place the blame on the parents.

Really. Creepy.

Enjoy yourselves.

Exactly. I know that opinions differ, but I'm really surprised at the amount of hate and cruelty directed toward the family.

 

[skater]

Exactly. I know that opinions differ, but I'm really surprised at the amount of hate and cruelty directed toward the family.

Me too .

 

[monsterkitty]

princessmom29, I have had 3 second trimester miscarriges, all 3 were caused by chromosomal abnormalities. My last one was discovered when I went in for an appointment at 19 weeks. My previous appointment was at 16 weeks, which is what the baby measured at then as well as three weeks later. I was told it was not uncommon for the body to not begin to "reject" the baby until several weeks later.

While do not agree with the Duggars and their actions, I feel for them and the baby. Placing blame does no good for anyone.

 

[Nancy]

I would never wish a miscarriage on anyone, whether it's baby #1 or baby #20. A babies death is a death no matter what.

I do hope that they stop trying to conceive though and yes they do try..Jim Bob even said that on the show with the Bates. His words were something like "we are trying but so far nothing". Shortly after that they announce a pregnancy. It's one thing to not use birth control, but another to actively try when you know it puts lives at risk.

 

[honeydiane1953]

SHE JUST NEEDS TO STOP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Aisling]

I know that opinions differ, but I'm really surprised at the amount of hate and cruelty directed toward the family.

I don't sense that anyone here feels hatred towards the Duggars. It's more of "WTH are they nuts" with some "they are irresponsible parents" thrown in.

 

[Silly Little Pixie]

No matter the *cause* of this miscarriage, they need to stop.

If Michelle dies in pregnancy/childbirth next time, who will raise the kids? Who will be responsible for Josie? That's too much to ask the older girls to do. Period. She needs to love her older kids enough to say that they ARE enough to make her life complete. She's got a whacked out sense of identity.

I'm sad for the loss- mainly for the kids. I think that despite all the warnings from doctors about their risks continuing to get pregnant, they truly believed that it would never happen to them. It's easy to ignore the risks if you are convinced they don't apply to you.

 

[princessmom29]

I won't go as far as saying she "caused" the miscarriage, however:

Getting pregnant 21 times.
Giving birth to 19 children.
Having the children close together.
Last pregnancy was high-risk.
Having a serious complication which could have caused her death and/or the death of the baby.
Becoming pregnant again before the micro-premie is two years old.
Age 45=higher risk of chromosomal abnormalities.


If I'm not mistaken, I believe I've read that the uterus loses elasticity and develops scar tissue with super-frequent usage which makes it less than ideal for carrying a baby to term.

She's playing russian roulette now.

Exactly the point i am trying to make.

Seriously, because I left an apostrophe off? I think someone that habitually says there for their has no room for "pokin' fun".

NO, I was actually confused as to wether you meant M.D., PhD, or some other advanced degree.There are different kinds of doctoral degrees. I do know what they are, but wasn't sure which one you were referencing. I don't "make fun of" anyone.

princessmom29, I have had 3 second trimester miscarriges, all 3 were caused by chromosomal abnormalities. My last one was discovered when I went in for an appointment at 19 weeks. My previous appointment was at 16 weeks, which is what the baby measured at then as well as three weeks later. I was told it was not uncommon for the body to not begin to "reject" the baby until several weeks later.

While do not agree with the Duggars and their actions, I feel for them and the baby. Placing blame does no good for anyone.

I ma very sorry for your losses, and it seems that you were part of the 25% that does experience a loss in the second trimester due to chromosomal abnormalities. That doesn't mean that Ms. Duggar or anyone else is however. Odds are 3:1 that they are NOT.

I don't sense that anyone here feels hatred towards the Duggars. It's more of "WTH are they nuts" with some "they are irresponsible parents" thrown in.

Exactly. I can disagree with thier choices, thier parenting, and believe they hold responsibility for the consequences of both without hating them.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

I don't sense that anyone here feels hatred towards the Duggars. It's more of "WTH are they nuts" with some "they are irresponsible parents" thrown in.

And some other things.

As far as "hatred" that is just silly. They are TV personalities. They make money off of drama.

I think I could make a fortune with my sister's IL's.

 

[princessmom29]

And some other things.

As far as "hatred" that is just silly. They are TV personalities. They make money off of drama.

I think I could make a fortune with my sister's IL's.

Exactly.

We have some real winners in our extended family too. It would be TV gold.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

I read that Michelle's doctor told her to let her miscarriage happen naturally. Is that standard protocol? When my friend miscarried at around the same time, she had to go in for a D and C. Is it dangerous for Michelle to wait around at home? I can't imagine walking around my house knowing that my baby was dead inside my uterus and just waiting for it to happen. That would be really hard to deal with.