Mexico is "Enraged" with the proposed U.S wall.

DarkSideMoon said:
I was laughing at the separation of church and state comment.

Now that you done laughing, why don't you tell us about all those taxes you personally pay?
 
chobie said:
Where in the constitution does it say that?

Hmmmmm.....

Apparently in some renditions it does ;).

And additionally--*ahem*

The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretext, infringed.

So WWJD is pretty irrelevant, b/c if our government started living by the WWJD question and the Bible--they'd have a much bigger problem on their hands that preventing people from crossing the border.
 

chobie said:
Now that you done laughing, why don't you tell us about all those taxes you personally pay?

I posted the article--the amount of resources spent on illegals--comes out of our federal income taxes. We pay for it. My taxes--should be for the benefit of the citizens of the United States, myself, and those here legally.

How does allowing illegals--achieve any of this?
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
Hmmmmm.....

Apparently in some renditions it does ;).

And additionally--*ahem*



So WWJD is pretty irrelevant, b/c if our government started living by the WWJD question and the Bible--they'd have a much bigger problem on their hands that preventing people from crossing the border.

It was just a question. You were complaining about illegal people being treated in our hospitals, I was just wondering WWJD?
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
How do you know that we don't take care of the poor. What about OUR poor?


So all that stuff in the bible about taking care of the poor, that only pertains to poor people within one's own national borders?
 
chobie said:
It was just a question. You were complaining about illegal people being treated in our hospitals, I was just wondering WWJD?


Actually I wasn't complaining at all. For someone with a legitimate emergency--they should be treated--absolutley. But for every legimate and illegimate emergency that is presented by an illegal alien--the consumer who supposedly has the ability to pay--has to pay much more for that same treatment. And if they are supposed to have the ability to pay, but cannot--they can lose their home, damage their credit, and may have to declare bankruptcy.

However--I don't think innocence really was indicated in your post and it was more a snipe against me when it really wasn't necessary.
 
chobie said:
It was just a question. You were complaining about illegal people being treated in our hospitals, I was just wondering WWJD?
I am complaining about them being treated for free. While were at it, why don't we just make everything free?
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
I posted the article--the amount of resources spent on illegals--comes out of our federal income taxes. We pay for it. My taxes--should be for the benefit of the citizens of the United States, myself, and those here legally.

How does allowing illegals--achieve any of this?

Actually, the article you posted stated statistics for families in the US HEADED by an illegal alien. However, if a child was born here in the US, that child IS a US citizen...entitiled to all the rights thereof. If the parents were to take that child back to Mexico to raise, we'd be sending more than the deficit between their income here and what they "need" here to them in Mexico to care for that child.
 
chobie said:


The same thing that the United States does for every starving country in the world. We feed them. Lets "feed" them in their own country. Let Vincente Fox figure out how to improve his economy and trade without relying on the resources that he can "steal" across the boarder.
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
Actually I wasn't complaining at all. For someone with a legitimate emergency--they should be treated--absolutley. But for every legimate and illegimate emergency that is presented by an illegal alien--the consumer who supposedly has the ability to pay--has to pay much more for that same treatment. And if they are supposed to have the ability to pay, but cannot--they can lose their home, damage their credit, and may have to declare bankruptcy.

However--I don't think innocence really was indicated in your post and it was more a snipe against me when it really wasn't necessary.

No, it was just a question. I can't control how you feel about them.
 
chobie said:
People who don't have jobs. What do you do for a living?
You have to pay taxes when you die, or buy something, tell me how ANYONE won't pay taxes?
 
chobie said:
So all that stuff in the bible about taking care of the poor, that only pertains to poor people within one's own national borders?

Until the US Surpreme Court allows the Bible to become a legal resource...it is irrelevant for the discussion. Just as it is irrelevant in other threads ;).
 
chobie said:
So all that stuff in the bible about taking care of the poor, that only pertains to poor people within one's own national borders?

The line has to be drawn somewhere, doesn't it? We can't afford to take care of every single poor person in the world and encouraging people to come here to be taken care of is going to ruin us. America provides an amazing opportunity for people to become citizens or legal residents and get an education and a better life for themselves. Sure, it's a long road, but anything that's worth it usually is.

All prosperous countries give money to not-so-prosperous countries to help their citizens. That's how we help the global community.
 
DarkSideMoon said:
I am complaining about them being treated for free. While were at it, why don't we just make everything free?

Again, many Americans receive emergency care and don't pay for it, either. Are you saying that life saving emergency care sould be received only if one has the ability to pay?
 


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