Measles contracted at DLR????

[bopper]

People are the worst. Get vaccinated. Wash your hands. Stay home if you're sick. Etc. These things should be common sense (not just with things like measles but with everyday stuff like the flu) but they aren't. Someone's "fun" is more important than health.

I am not too worried about measles. I am more worried about the flu at this point.

But you can be contagious with illness such as Chickenpox just before you have any symptoms (which is how my DD spread chickenpox to her daycare before the vaccines were in place)

 

[ClaraOswald]

But you can be contagious with illness such as Chickenpox just before you have any symptoms (which is how my DD spread chickenpox to her daycare before the vaccines were in place)

True. But a lot of things are more contagious the first couple days of symptoms.

 

[Malcon10t]

True, measles are contagious 4 days prior to the rash. You can think you just have a cold at that point.

 

[mom2rtk]

But you can be contagious with illness such as Chickenpox just before you have any symptoms (which is how my DD spread chickenpox to her daycare before the vaccines were in place)

That can't be helped. But it doesn't mean caution should be abandoned once an illness is known. Better to have a little exposure than a lot.

 

[DSNY4ever]

I got pertussis 1 year after a booster shot when I was in Jr. High. They don't always work! And I would have had the DTP at least as an infant and child which was considered MORE effective than the currently used DTaP! Unfortunately DTaP is one of the least effective and wanes in a short period of time. It is also one of the immunizations with the highest rate of reactions to the vaccine itself. We're seeing pertussis outbreaks now due to vaccine failure, not the unvaxed, and the CDC has said as much. http://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/about/faqs.html So it's not so clear cut as "vaccinate and everyone will be fine". (the recent mumps cases also point to issues with current vaccines and their effectiveness).

I don't know much about the effectiveness of the vaccine, but I am allergic to the Tetanus vaccine and because it is now combined with the whooping cough vaccine (as DTap) I cannot get a whooping cough vaccine either My personal doctor and the hospital where I had my children both looked into trying to get an individual vaccine and they are no longer being made, which is just stupid because all of this combining makes people with allergies unable to get them.

People are the worst. Get vaccinated. Wash your hands. Stay home if you're sick. Etc. These things should be common sense (not just with things like measles but with everyday stuff like the flu) but they aren't. Someone's "fun" is more important than health.

I am not too worried about measles. I am more worried about the flu at this point.

My son was just recently sick (really sick, not just your average cold) and we had to cancel our trip to the DLR. We were totally bummed, but it was necessary, not just for our son's health, but for all the other people we would have been around. People need to know that Disneyland tickets do not actually "expire", you can put that money toward the value of a new ticket in the following year or whenever your trip is...cancelled trips are not the end of the world.

 

[ClosetDisneyJunkie]

My son was just recently sick (really sick, not just your average cold) and we had to cancel our trip to the DLR. We were totally bummed, but it was necessary, not just for our son's health, but for all the other people we would have been around. People need to know that Disneyland tickets do not actually "expire", you can put that money toward the value of a new ticket in the following year or whenever your trip is...cancelled trips are not the end of the world.

^this. Without getting into the vax pro's and con's (I feel very, very strongly that we should all be vaccinated unless one has an allergy or other complication with respect to vaccines) one of the best ways to promote wellness in the community is to STAY HOME WHEN YOU ARE SICK. Whether it is work, or Disneyland. I know it's not always possible, and sometimes we spread disease before our symptoms are acute enough to make it clear that we should be home, but please err on the side of caution, particularly when you are talking about a place like DLR where very young children are everywhere.

Having to postpone or cancel a trip due to illness is SO disappointing. I've had to do it before. But it's usually for the best. Both for you and for everyone around you. We all need to be team players, in my opinion.

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[starjazz]

So, was the outbreak contained? I mean, are we out of the woods, generally speaking here? My sister is gonna be 5 months preggers, and while we all have vaccines, that little unborn baby doesn't. What's the risk at this point? Any higher than normal? Can that even be answered with any certainty?

 

[MommyWithDreams]

So, was the outbreak contained? I mean, are we out of the woods, generally speaking here? My sister is gonna be 5 months preggers, and while we all have vaccines, that little unborn baby doesn't. What's the risk at this point? Any higher than normal? Can that even be answered with any certainty?

I was thinking the same thing. We will be there in less than 3 weeks and the laughing about it has gotten old. Although we have our vaccines, you're still not 100% protected.

 

[KalamityJane]

So, was the outbreak contained? I mean, are we out of the woods, generally speaking here? My sister is gonna be 5 months preggers, and while we all have vaccines, that little unborn baby doesn't. What's the risk at this point? Any higher than normal? Can that even be answered with any certainty?

Is she vaccinated or has had measles? If so, baby is fine.

 

[wildflower329]

I was thinking the same thing. We will be there in less than 3 weeks and the laughing about it has gotten old. Although we have our vaccines, you're still not 100% protected.

From the CDC website: Measles spreads when a person infected with the measles virus breathes, coughs, or sneezes. It is very contagious. You can catch measles just by being in a room where a person with measles has been, up to 2 hours after that person is gone. And you can catch measles from an infected person even before they have a measles rash. Almost everyone who has not had the MMR shot will get measles if they are exposed to the measles virus.

So, it is likely that you are safe at this point, since I do not believe they have reports of anyone infected in the last day or so being at Disneyland. Still something to be aware of, but you should be safe.

 

[MommyWithDreams]

From the CDC website: Measles spreads when a person infected with the measles virus breathes, coughs, or sneezes. It is very contagious. You can catch measles just by being in a room where a person with measles has been, up to 2 hours after that person is gone. And you can catch measles from an infected person even before they have a measles rash. Almost everyone who has not had the MMR shot will get measles if they are exposed to the measles virus.

So, it is likely that you are safe at this point, since I do not believe they have reports of anyone infected in the last day or so being at Disneyland. Still something to be aware of, but you should be safe.

I'm more worried about the flight and catching a cold or flu at this point. My colds always turn into bronchitis and worse. Just keeping my fingers crossed.

 

[StormyCA]

If anyone has doubts about their immunity, your doctor can order a blood panel. My DH didn't know if he'd ever had chicken pox (neither he nor his mother could remember) and a blood test showed that he had & therefore was immune. A cousin didn't know if she was immune to rubella as she was trying to conceive. A blood test showed that she needed an immunization.

My understanding is that if you've had measles, you have lifetime immunity. If you were vaccinated against measles you may or may not have continuing immunity.

 

[DahliaRW]

So, was the outbreak contained? I mean, are we out of the woods, generally speaking here? My sister is gonna be 5 months preggers, and while we all have vaccines, that little unborn baby doesn't. What's the risk at this point? Any higher than normal? Can that even be answered with any certainty?

There have been no reported cases at Disneyland since the ones in December.

 

[minneylovesmicky]

So, was the outbreak contained? I mean, are we out of the woods, generally speaking here? My sister is gonna be 5 months preggers, and while we all have vaccines, that little unborn baby doesn't. What's the risk at this point? Any higher than normal? Can that even be answered with any certainty?

"Measles during pregnancy can cause miscarriage, premature labor, or low birth weights. If you are planning to get pregnant and have not been vaccinated against measles talk to your doctor about getting the MMR jab".

From this link

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/37135.php

Not a risk I would be willing to take.

 

[ClosetDisneyJunkie]

So, was the outbreak contained? I mean, are we out of the woods, generally speaking here? My sister is gonna be 5 months preggers, and while we all have vaccines, that little unborn baby doesn't. What's the risk at this point? Any higher than normal? Can that even be answered with any certainty?

I'd recommend that your sister talk to her obstetrician about it. These things can sound scary in the abstract, and perhaps she doesn't want to take any chances at all, but she should talk to her doc about the real risk, if any.

 

[StormyCA]

So, was the outbreak contained? I mean, are we out of the woods, generally speaking here? My sister is gonna be 5 months preggers, and while we all have vaccines, that little unborn baby doesn't. What's the risk at this point? Any higher than normal? Can that even be answered with any certainty?

As per my earlier post, have your sister's OB run a blood test to see if she's immune.

 

[GoBears 1980]

Measles deaths happen almost exclusively in 3rd world countries. Even when there are "outbreaks" here death is very, very rare. Simply put, good healthcare, nutrition, sanitation, etc increases good outcomes. I would not be scared at all of having measles in the USA. Treat with megadoses of vitamin A and seek medical help if complications arise. In Africa, malnourished, no healthcare, no clean water, totally different outcome.

In 2005 there were only 19 deaths in the Americas from Measles, 2014 had 3,100. 2014 was the worst year in CA in the last 20. There were more cases of measles in the first three months of 2014 than the previous 18 years. (edit: that means the TOTAL of the previous 18 years)

In CA, children must have proof of vaccinations to attend school, unless their parents sign a form stating it is against their beliefs. So, even a child coming from other countries would have to have vaccines or the waiver.

Interesting thing I have noticed in our area, schools in poorer areas have a higher vaccination rate than the more well off schools. And of course the private schools have as low as 50% vaccination rates.

See the post below on how easy waivers are.

Vaccinations are required by state law at all schools, public and private; the rates should not be vastly different.

And it only takes one Typhoid Mary to cause an outbreak.

It is actually easier to get a kid in school with a vax waiver than fully vaccinated. When I enrolled my daughter in school, I only had her partial vax record because the other got misplaced. And we only had 2 days to get them in school. They refused to allow her to go to school with a partial record, so I asked for a waiver. They pulled it out from behind the desk, I signed it, and BOOM she's in school. I had my other kids full vax records, and they went through them with a fine toothed comb with me double checking dates and signatures and so on. It took forever. But the waiver? Super simple. That's an issue, IMO.

'zactly.

 

[DahliaRW]

GoBears, your 2014 statistics are not correct (and you're incorrect about 2005 too).

In the United States in 2014 there were 644 cases of measles. There is no way that there were 3100 deaths from measles in the US that year when there were not that many cases. I don't actually see any deaths in the United States from Measles in 2014. If you have a reputable source that says otherwise please correct me, but my information is from the CDC.

http://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html

So seeing as you were wrong about measles deaths in 2004, I looked up 2005. 66 cases of measles in the United States, no deaths that I can find. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5550a2.htm

You may want to check where you got that information.

 

[mom2rtk]

GoBears, your 2014 statistics are not correct (and you're incorrect about 2005 too).

In the United States in 2014 there were 644 cases of measles. There is no way that there were 3100 deaths from measles in the US that year when there were not that many cases. I don't actually see any deaths in the United States from Measles in 2014. If you have a reputable source that says otherwise please correct me, but my information is from the CDC.

http://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html

So seeing as you were wrong about measles deaths in 2004, I looked up 2005. 66 cases of measles in the United States, no deaths that I can find. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5550a2.htm

You may want to check where you got that information.

How many cases would you consider reasonable?

 

[DahliaRW]

How many cases would you consider reasonable?

I wasn't addressing that. I was addressing that people in the US don't die from measles, it is rare, and that the PP is not sharing accurate information. (The death statistics are from largely 3rd world countries).