May make me seem like an *@# but...

tone.def said:
I can honestly say that I've never not tipped a housekeeper at a hotel. I gained this practice from my parents - they always left tips in our travels and we travelled a lot when I was going up and to a few different places around the world, so that's close to 30 years of observation in 4 continents. I guess they learned it from somewhere and neither of them ever worked in housekeeping.

I didn't know that people didn't tip housekeeping. When I was a bartender for many years in college and a little while after, I found that the people who didn't tip were those you didn't in their home cultures (the Brits, Asian tourists), but unfair comparison...
I am 51 years old and I am like you - I have never NOT tipped a housekeeper either. Like your parents, mine always tipped. When we rented a house at the beach for a week in the summer, they always left a tip for the cleaning service that came in at the end of the week to clean for the next family coming in as well as daily tips in regular hotels/motels . I never even thought of not tipping. Guess it is what we learn from our parents. Neither of my parents worked in any of the service professions so I don't know where they learned to tip houskeeping either. I will have to ask my mom what made her tip housekeeping. I guess I thought everyone did so I never questioned it before. :cool1:
 
First of all, I have not read through all of the posts here, and I apologize if this has already been mentioned...

What really gets me is when little envelopes are left in one's room - presumably by housekeeping services. I am not cheap and have no issue passing out a gratuity when I feel it is warrented - however when a gratuity is being "suggested" or even "hinted", it totally turns me off. We went on a cruise (Caribbean cruise line) for our honeymoon, with ports of call in Mexico, Ocho Rios (? sp), and Jamiaca, and I was appallled at how blatent the islanders there were asking for tips. We went on one of those tours - a boat ride to "swim" with sea rays. It was supposed to include the ride, snorkle equipment, and some type of rum punch as a beverage. Of course we are on the boat and half-way to the sand bar when the tour guides inform everyone that there will be no rum punch, but we can purchase beverages from their cooler (at inflated prices, naturally). Whatever - I could have cared less about the punch - but why advertise it when they do not provide it. It was not as though the tour was a "surprise" that they did not know they had booked. Then as we were all getting off the boat, the 3 "guides" actually make a big speech about how much fun everyone must have had, and how we shoud all "remember our tour guides" with a gratuity, also to those who did not know the meaning of the word "gratuity" - it is money! What a joke! It was far from free to take the tour, and it turned me off as we were getting off of the boat and the guides actually held out cans for tips. How pathetic. I would have walked right by but DH put something in their can. :rolleyes: If I had the time and a pen and paper, I would have wrote a note telling them how tacky they were and that would have been their tip. :rolleyes1

Then in Jamaica, some dude at a "take a tour at some waterfall" thing offered to take a picture of us with our own camera - and after I complied, he actually held his hand out for a "tip" before he would give us back the camera! That was it for me - I did not so much as even look at another islander after that. I figured even looking may have costed me a tip. Never again.

As far as the cruise - sure, we tipped as I was told it is customary, however I feel the gratuity on a cruise ship should just be added into the cost of the trip, and then be done with it. For housekeepers - it really depends. We are not messy people and I always leave the room neat prior to leaving. If we made more than a normal amount of disarray, I may leave something for a housekeeper who had to clean up a little more than the norm. DH and I stayed 1 night at a B&B in CT last winter, and the Inn Keeper was the owner. It was a small place and he was the owner, cooked the breakfast (that was FAR from gourmet), and also did the cleaning - and there was still an envelope left in the room! It's my impression that a tip is not neccessary to the owner of a buisness. Please, correct me if I am wrong. Again my DH left something in the envelope (he is WAY softer than I am), but I thought it was ridiculous to suggest a gratuity.

The tip can and Dunkin Donuts is also a joke. The price of a hot (or iced) coffee is expensive enough. I worked at a coffee/donut joint when I was 15 and we could not accept tips - which was fine with me. Back then, I was thrilled to be getting minimum wage as it at least put a little cash in my pocket. What got me was when a customer insisted on leaving a tip (basically the change that was left on the counter), we had to add it to the drawer so the owner could keep it. HA, I suppose that is how the rich get richer, and the poor just work harder to survive, LOL. In my area of the world, there are now quite a few D&D's that have signs posted stating that tipping is not allowed - now that is my kind of coffee shop.

I think my new tipping policy just may be - if a service worker actually tells me that tips are allowed, I will inform them that I do not provide a gratuity to those who feel the need to suggest to me that is it accepted. Maybe that will open a few eyes.

I work in the medical field and my patients are my "customers", so to speak. I take all of their complaints very seriously and with the same compassion that I would offer to my own family member. That being said, I do not take tips, or gifts, or any other gratuity for that matter. To me, a smile or a "thank you" is worth its weight in gold. Everyone works hard for their money, and unless a service is truly a "gratuity-based" service, tipping should not be expected. Sure, I suppose I make a more proliferative income than a minimum wage worker, however I also put myself through college to be able to make a decent wage. I also worked at a ice cream shop and in retail, and took pride in my "jobs" whatever they were. No monetary tips were ever expected.

Okay, that's my comment on tipping, FWIW.
 
We had 3 towel animals left in our room in June & no I did not tip, sorry.



tone.def said:
I simply tip on a daily basis because I find over a span of a week or so, my room has extra towels and soap and is done well.

If you don't tip, that's your choice, but don't come back and COMPLAIN that mousekeeping was lousy at the end of your trip and you didn't get a single towel animal.

Anyone not tip and get towel animals???
 
tone.def said:
I simply tip on a daily basis because I find over a span of a week or so, my room has extra towels and soap and is done well.

If you don't tip, that's your choice, but don't come back and COMPLAIN that mousekeeping was lousy at the end of your trip and you didn't get a single towel animal.

Anyone not tip and get towel animals???

Yes, Tone Def, we have received several towel animals and not left a tip. Surprised? We have been fortunate to never have to complain about any housekeeping services at WDW during our stays there, and hardly leave extra tips. If the housekeeping was that negligent, you bet I would complain regardless if a tip was left or not. That being said, we are not messy people and do not leave our room looking like a bomb exploded in it, so basically we are pretty easy to please. It's a lot less stressful - I'll tell you that.
 

Well, if you leave the room in scambles on a daily basis and you're not tipping the mousekeeper, they might be less inclined to want to do it well for you.
They have to do it well, with or without a tip. It's what they were hired to do. If they don't, I'd call the desk and let them know.


I always thought a tip was for exceptional service, something above and beyond what was expected of them. I have always tipped the mousekeepers, because I thought it was expected of me, not because I felt they deserved the extra money. Only once did I ever tip and feel it was worth it, when we got to out CR room and found the carpet fwith crumbs all over it, a mousekeeper was sent up right away, vacuumed, and then loooked around the room for any other faux pas. She didn't have to do this. She could have vacuumed, which was her job, and left. But she went above and beyond, and I let her knoe it was appreciated by giving her a nice tip.
I'm beginning to be less inclined to tip mousekeeping, unless they have an extraordinary mess to clean.
 
tone.def said:
Well, if you leave the room in scambles on a daily basis and you're not tipping the mousekeeper, they might be less inclined to want to do it well for you.

Tough luck - it's their JOB to do it well, whether they get a nice little tip from me or not.

Yes, it's nice to leave a tip for someone, but they are required to do their job well, regardless.

I have yet to decide whether I shall be tipping - I'm barely going to have enough money for food when I'm out there! :rotfl:
I guess it will depend on whether they go above and beyond.
 
I have always tipped housekeeping no matter where I've stayed, Disney or not. That is how I was brought up. I always will. DL considers it a tipped position and so does the DCL as well. I choose to include the mousekeepers at WDW regardless of what the check-in flyer says.

I could care a less what others do. To each their own. I wouldn't feel right NOT tipping though so I'll continue our family's tradition and will teach my children to do the same.

I tip daily and I tip $1. per person but I end up usually leave $5 for my family of four. It has always been taken by the mousekeeper.
 
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Why would you not feel right if it is not a tipped position? Do you feel obligated or that they would not do as you would like? Just curious. Tipping is not mandatory.
 
Almost all cruise ships are foreign flagged vessels, including Disney Cruise Line. They must have one port of call outside of the US on each cruise. This allows them to bypass US wage, hour, and work laws. The dining room staff and cabin stewards on these ships are mainly from Asia and Eastern Europe. They work 12 or more hours a day for very small wages. Almost all of their wages come from tips. One can debate whether this should be part of the cruise fare or not, but that is another topic.

I have never had housekeeping in any hotel (even 4 and 5 star) that approaches the level of service of a cruise ship cabin steward in a minimum cabin category. They clean and change towels twice a day, keep ice buckets filled and wine chilled, provide turn down service every night and are available to take care of other requests that you might have. They deserve every penny they get, and then some.

Housekeeping in hotels is once a day, clean, change towels and move on. I do tip housekeepers for good service, but not nearly to the level of a cabin steward.
 
We always leave a tip. My husband likes to tip after the first day, then leaves a bigger tip when we leave. We grew up in households were our parents always tip so it comes naturally.
 
Man, you guys have me overthinking this whole 'tipping' issue!!! Yes, I have always tipped housekeeping at WDW. I actually have gone to the lengths of pre-printing out my "Mousekeeping" envelopes before we leave and putting the tip in it then, so I don't have to worry about it when we are leaving our room each day. However, it has always bothered me that the room was cleaned, possibly, by someone other than who was being tipped that day. So, if, say...Gloria did a terrific job (extra towels, towel animals, extra floor clean-up) on Tuesday, and Joan arrived on Wed and did what was 'expected' of her, and takes the tip that was based on service the day before...well, that irks me. So, any ideas on how to address that?

I think that for the most part, we probably have the same housekeeper during the week and it may change on the week-end, but I'm not sure. I'm so very tired of having all those outstretched hands, looking for tips. I mean, come on....we ride DME and are expected to tip the driver? Even if he never touches a bag of ours since we carry our own carryon bag onto the bus with us?? Or when we took a Duck Tour this past week-end and the driver mentioned that 'gratuities are always accepted if you enjoyed your tour'? I'm sorry, but isn't my enjoyment or a clean room what I have already paid for?

Now, I'm really conflicted....what to do, what to do. Some very good points are being made, for both sides of the issue, here.
 
goofy4tink said:
I mean, come on....we ride DME and are expected to tip the driver? Even if he never touches a bag of ours since we carry our own carryon bag onto the bus with us??


Diane,

We will be using DME for our upcoming trip to and from the airport - and the DME driver should be tipped also ??? I paid for a package through Disney (rack rate, full fare tickets, etc) and I thought the fare and tip for the ME was included. This is news to me. I'm glad that I found out now rather than being annoyed if/when the driver makes a comment about "appreciating the ride" while his hand is out (GRRRR). Promotion or not, something tells me that the ME was not "free" and I am paying for the ride one way or another. Assuming we will also carry our own bags, and why not since we always do, just how much should a ME driver receive? I'd rather be prepared on this before hand since I would probably not have tipped - but then again my DH would have anyhow.....

TIA, Lori
 
If you take your bags to the DME bus the driver will stow them in the bottom of the bus. When you get to your resort the driver will take them out and then you pick them up. So the driver will be handling your bags. Do you tip the skycap when you do curbside check in? Then I would tip the same amount. $1-2 per bag.
 
tlev said:
If someone goes way above the call of duty, (towel animals, etc.) then maybe a tip is deserved.

Same thing I was thinking! I have stayed at Pop Century twice and have never gotten any towel animals. I walked by three rooms and saw towel animals in the window and I asked myself, "Why am I tipping mousekeeping?" When I stay in a room alone, my room is very neat as I don't spend time in it because I'm at the parks.
 
I looked at the first site that escape cited in a previous post. Wow. I thought I was pretty good at tipping, but I guess everyone I meet should be tipped. BTW, where's my tip? I'm a SAHM, but I think I'm going to put a tip jar on the kitchen table :rotfl:
This is indeed an interesting thread.
The site I mentioned above says to tip pizza $2 for short deliveries (I think, but I didn't memorize it). Has anyone ordered online from PapaJohn's lately? They have a tip calculator for your convenience. It starts out at 15%, 20%...it made me feel like a real cheapskate for just giving $3 (my norm) to the pizza delivery guy. Shame on you PapaJohn pirate: I ended up tipping over the 15% last time out of guilt.
It does make you think that everyone thinks they are entitled to their bonus. Where does it end?
One last vent, we hired a clown for a BD party on year, she wore a huge button that read "TIPPING, is not a city in China". As soon as I saw that, I knew she was not getting the extra I had in my pocket for her :rolleyes:
I guess, I feel like if I want to tip you, I will, but don't demand it.
 
mlwear said:
One last vent, we hired a clown for a BD party on year, she wore a huge button that read "TIPPING, is not a city in China". As soon as I saw that, I knew she was not getting the extra I had in my pocket for her :rolleyes:
I guess, I feel like if I want to tip you, I will, but don't demand it.

Bravo mlwear! Talk about being tacky re: tipping! Not only would I have not tipped her, but I would have informed her as to why she would not be receiving a tip once she was done putting on her show and had left the premises. And she definitely would not be hired by me again nor receive any recommendations from me to other moms. Perhaps those islanders from my cruise experience have left a bitter tipping taste in my mouth, LOL. :rotfl:
 
lillygator said:
I never knew tipping was standard before I found the DIS...I have only tipped in one stay as we spoke with mousekeeping and hey helped us out with situation.

Me neither! I told my DFi that I need to take some extra money to leave as a tip and he looked at me like I was crazy. I work at a bank and he says "do you expect someone to give you money because you do your job or exceed their expectations?" I guess he's right but I'm one of those people who'll tip anyone with a tip jar, which also drives him crazy. I even tip the people at pizza places when I go and pick up the pizza because if I use my check card the little tip line prints out and I feel guilty putting $0 there or crossing it out! :rotfl: I need therapy :crazy: Oh well I probably won't even need to tip mousekeeping until the last day because I usually cancel it for the whole time we're there (I don't like strange people having access to my stuff)
 
I work in the medical field and my patients are my "customers", so to speak. I take all of their complaints very seriously and with the same compassion that I would offer to my own family member. That being said, I do not take tips, or gifts, or any other gratuity for that matter. To me, a smile or a "thank you" is worth its weight in gold. Everyone works hard for their money, and unless a service is truly a "gratuity-based" service, tipping should not be expected. Sure, I suppose I make a more proliferative income than a minimum wage worker, however I also put myself through college to be able to make a decent wage. I also worked at a ice cream shop and in retail, and took pride in my "jobs" whatever they were. No monetary tips were ever expected.

ITA :sunny: I am an RN and work very hard at my job and lots of OT that I do not get paid for. I stay late sometimes away from my family to work with other families whether it be teaching them something, holding a childs hand who is scared or consoling a family of a lossed loved one. I would never expect a tip nor would I EVER EVER ask for one and I am not getting any wages for those hours - none and I have cleaned up a lot worse then a hotel room :rotfl: I have had people time to time try and leave my a $20 or some gift certificates and I never take them. If a family member leaves a box of candy or so for the entire staff - it is very nice but I do not think any less of anyone that doesn't nor would I not take as good of care as them.

I am sick of hearing how mousekeeping doesn't do as good job on the rooms and people claim they are worked too hard and no one leaves tips. How rude. Mousekeeping is a full paying job, even if it as minimum wage, that was the job you applied for - tiping isn't required nor do you have to really file it with taxes like bartenders/servers do. Yes, maybe it is nice to get some extra money, we all love money but I for one will not tip someone who has not even performed that service yet - sorry. At WDW, I have given tips personally to some mousekeepers who did a little extra or went out of their way to help us with something or introduce themselves to us but if I have one or two towels that need to be changed after we head out to the parks one day, I don't understand why I would need to leave a tip of $3 pp for a task that not only is minor but hasn't even been performed yet. :confused3 I am on a budget - I don't have money to hand out for everyone doing their jobs correctly. Heck, why not tip the cute old men with the sweepers who clean up and down Main St - they work hard too don't they?? Flamesuit on ;)

As far as the cruise goes, they work on wages similar to servers and live off of those tips to MAKE minimum wage, not earn extra. They also do a lot more, IMO. Since disney states that mousekeeping is not a tipping job then the mousekeepers themselves know this when they apply for the job and should expect those wages as I know what wages I will expect.

I tip and I tip well to people that deserve it and rely on tips to make their wages. A good waitress will get 30 even 40% sometimes if they made our evening pleasant with good service and a smile. Grumpy servers, bellman etc.. will barely get 10-15% out of us because I don't tip well for rudeness or bad service (without apologies) no matter if it expected or not. For someone who does not need tips to make their wages
(basically most people in this world), I will only tip if they did something that actually deserved the tip. I mean when it comes down to it, if you tip some people like grocery baggers, housekeeping, gas attendants etc.. why not tip your kids bus drivers for driving your kids to school, your health clubs front deskmen for swiping your gym card, your pharmacist for filling your prescription, your doctor after he gives you a physical, your dry cleaner for having your clothes done the next day, The Best Buy cashier for taking the metal detector off your CD correctly. I mean come on already - I feel like all of a sudden everyone in every profession is handing their palms out for extra money. It is getting quite annoying if you ask me.

Okay off my soapbox,,, :goodvibes
 
My family has always tipped housekeeping (at WDW and elsewhere). It's just a kind gesture to say thank you for doing such a good job. That's the way I look at it at least. I don't think it's necessarily "expected" at WDW it is just more "advertised' if you will on the DIS and such. I usually leave a few dollars a day - a little more if I ask for something extra like an extra pillow or towels or such (something that is out of the ordinary I guess).

I don't think anyone is a tightwad if they choose not to tip mousekeeping. It's your choice and the OP is right, it is their job but it's always nice to get recognition for a job well done. Thats the way I look at the whole thing personally.
 













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