Marathon Weekend 2025

SAFD: Lot's of great advice here. One thing I'll add is maybe have more than one option. I was all in on gels for awhile, but then starting having GI issues. Switch to beans and then they started disagreeing. Now I carry some of both and alternate. Sometimes variety helps when you are fueling 4 or 5 times during a race.
 
SAFD: Pre-race is coffee and a Clif energy bar shuffling to the bus and on the bus ride. Because we are up so early for rD, I also have a bottle of water with Tailwind mix for sipping in the coral, and I've started enjoying a couple of fig newtons about 30 minutes before. Once the race is going, fuel about every 4 miles. Usually a Maurtens for the mid-point, and a mix of Gu and Glukose for the rest of the fuelings. Energy beans? I'll take them when handed out and enjoy letting a few melt in my mouth if it's a flavor I like, but I don't count on them as a fueling.

Chocolate mountain going into HS? Yes please, but I have to admit enjoying the Snickers or Milky Way bars better than the Dove bars, which is odd because I love Dove chocolate.

It turns out I am lousy about post-race eating after a full marathon. I'm both hungry and don't feel like eating, especially with what rD hands out. I choked down a few peanut butter crackers in Jan, and then some of my leftover pasta dinner back in the room.
For all other distances, I can (and do) go enjoy a nice meal afterwards, but going forward I need to make myself eat better after a full.

Ramen noodles: I still haven't ever had them.
Cow Tales? Ditto. Never heard of them until this thread.

>>Since I’m signed up for the Dopey, I don’t think I will have time to recover and be “race” ready by the time this marathon is in March 2025. I plan to run the races in Dopey fairly easy since I want to enjoy the time there.

I definitely recommend taking it easy for the Dopey, both because of the distance and multiple days/nights and all the fun of the many photo ops. Could you then run a marathon in March? Yes, IMHO, with the caveat that you probably don't want to try to set a PR in March. (I'm agreeing with earlier posts about doing the PR in Nov).

FWIW, I can go maybe a week or two after MW and then I'm back to some easy walks/runs and ramping back up to my usual maintenance runs. Is that because I'm a super-fit marathoner? No, just restless and get antsy if I go too long without a run. YMMV.
 
SAFD: My in race fueling really hasn't changed much in my 20 years of running. Chocolate GU about every 45 minutes. In the past two years, I've added in salt chews at every mile except when I have a GU. I generally just drink water as I find that Powerade/Gatorade on top of GU makes my stomach unhappy. As someone else mentioned, I feel like I should experiment more as there are so many products that are new and better these days, but honestly it's overwhelming and I'm not sure I really want to make the effort.

As for pre and post race fueling, I still haven't got this down. For non-Disney races I'm usually fine. I have some toast or a banana and off I go. But with the extra long wait time at Disney I haven't quite got the timing down so that I'm not hungry by the end of the race. Post race is always hard for me as I never feel like eating, but I know I need to. Hoping to work on this strategy during the next training cycle.
 
For Pre-race, I will usually bring a box of stroup waffles with me and keep them in the rental car. Then I will eat one while sitting in the parking lot before heading to the corral. When we start the walk to the starting line, I will usually pop a GU pack.

Post-race, I am usually starving to eat right away. The snack box they hand out lasts maybe a few minutes before it is demolished. I won't take another banana at the end, because by that time I am tired of bananas from all the ones I eat on the course. First thing is to head over to the beer stand to get a celebratory drink. Then it's over to the breakfast/pizza cone truck. A pizza cone after the marathon is sooo good! Back at the hotel, it's a nice cold Coke. Sometimes a shower Coke! Once back to the parks, it's pretty much consuming all things in sight.
 
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SAFD: So I have thoughts about fueling. Essentially, I feel that people completely overdo and over-think the entire subject. You don’t need to supplement normal eating for 5ks or 10ks or 10-milers. There should be a reason why you are consuming extra salt and sugar. If you’re driving a car that has enough gas to go 400 miles, do you refill the gas tank after driving 5 miles?

(1) Unless you are sweating for more than 3 hours, you don’t need to supplement with electrolytes. Electrolytes are salts such as sodium, chloride, potassium, calcium, and magnesium. Electrolytes are necessary to direct fluid to the inside and outside of your cells, leading to optimal hydration. We lose most of our electrolytes through urination, not sweating. A normal diet will contain enough sodium for exercise under a marathon distance. If you finish a race still hydrated, then there’s no need to eat more salt.

(2) Gels, chews, etc. It’s all just sugar. Our bodies need ATP as a substrate for muscle contraction. Within cells, energy is provided by the “metabolic fuels” such as carbohydrates, lipids (fat), and proteins. Simple carbs are easily converted into ATP, while fat takes longer and requires more energy to create ATP (which is the basis for Adkins and other low-carb diets). People hit “the wall” when their glycogen stores are depleted and the body switches to the fat stores for energy. Some training plans even have fasting runs to get the body used to running with no glycogen stores.

Most of the supplements rely on sugars such as glucose and fructose for energy. Our bodies can only absorb about 60 grams per hour of glucose, which is quickly absorbed through the small intestine. Adding fructose allows the body to consume more carbs, since it has to be processed through the liver first before it becomes cellularly available. Both fructose and glucose are stored in the liver as glycogen, and if you eat 2-3 hours before a race, then your body can run for around 120-160 minutes without any additional fuel. Again, if your glycogen stores aren’t depleted, and your muscles have adequate ATP to contract, then eating extra sugar during a run under 120 minutes does nothing. Adding to that, if you’re running at a slower pace, your body will rely more on its fat stores for energy than carbs, which are primarily consumed at zone 4-5 efforts.
 
I definitely recommend taking it easy for the Dopey, both because of the distance and multiple days/nights and all the fun of the many photo ops. Could you then run a marathon in March? Yes, IMHO, with the caveat that you probably don't want to try to set a PR in March. (I'm agreeing with earlier posts about doing the PR in Nov).

FWIW, I can go maybe a week or two after MW and then I'm back to some easy walks/runs and ramping back up to my usual maintenance runs. Is that because I'm a super-fit marathoner? No, just restless and get antsy if I go too long without a run. YMMV.
Thanks for your input! @Mr_Incr3dible I’m new to racing and have only done a handful in the last few years. Know its trial and error and understanding the body and what it can withstand.
 
I don’t usually carry fuel until I start getting into 12 miles or more. In the summer, I’ll carry liquid iv if I’m doing anything over 6 miles.

If taking a gel, should we carry an electrolyte drink too? Or just water? I carry liquid iv in my pack and drink that in between gels. I take the water provided on course.
 
If taking a gel, should we carry an electrolyte drink too? Or just water? I carry liquid iv in my pack and drink that in between gels. I take the water provided on course.
It depends on the gel. There are a few gels (Maurten, UCAN, etc.) that are isotonic, meaning you don't need water to absorb them. (You do still need to hydrate, though!)

However, with most gels (and anything else you're consuming), you need a certain amount of regular water - not a sports drink - to digest them. I don't remember how much exactly, but it's at least a few sips. If you don't have enough water to absorb the gel, you'll probably end up with GI issues.

Whether you have just plain water or water and a sports drink is up to you. Personally, I usually carry water and Skratch on my long runs, especially if it's hot out. In races, I'll put Skratch in my handheld to start and then refill with water at aid stations when it's empty. In hot weather, I definitely notice a difference with the extra electrolytes in how I feel afterwards vs with just water.
 
I'm starting to think I may be the only one who actually looks forward to the parking lot coffee - must be my caffeine addiction showing 😂

I'll see your caffine addiction and raise you one. I have my coffee on the bus ride to the start AND bring a Diet Mt. Dew (how can that many chemicals be bad for me right?) to drink waiting to go to the corrals.
 
I don’t usually carry fuel until I start getting into 12 miles or more. In the summer, I’ll carry liquid iv if I’m doing anything over 6 miles.

If taking a gel, should we carry an electrolyte drink too? Or just water? I carry liquid iv in my pack and drink that in between gels. I take the water provided on course.
I'd say the answer here is "it depends". You need the water to facilitate digestion of the carbs and one of the causes of stomach upset is having too many carbs to digest compared to the available water. If your electrolyte drink also contains carbs, you need to be careful about taking a gel with it. You don't want to accidentally overload your stomach with a double shot of carbs. One of the ways I avoid this is by taking water from an aid station if I'm close to taking or have recently taken a gel and Powerade/Gatorade, if not.
 
I'll see your caffine addiction and raise you one. I have my coffee on the bus ride to the start AND bring a Diet Mt. Dew (how can that many chemicals be bad for me right?) to drink waiting to go to the corrals.
Tried a monster many years ago during a 50 miler. Didn’t feel so good after drinking that. Just sticking to coffee around race time
 
Off topic but in case anyone wants to combine a MW trip with a shiny new resort (and take the small risk that they do in fact finish on time, they're not still dealing with punch list items during your stay, etc), cash bookings for the Island Tower at Polynesian Villas & Bungalows opened to the public today. Stays start 12/17: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/resorts/polynesian-resort/rates-rooms/

Several variety of room types for different traveling party sizes.
 
I’ll just toss this into the mix: we’re all individuals with individual fueling needs. Anyone new to fueling should be experimenting in training, not just to see what tastes and feels good or not, but also to see how much and how often they need it. I don’t need a study to know that my body needs a steady input of glucose every 45ish minutes - I know because I’ve experimented and found it to be what works for me. My fueling strategy has nothing to do with distance and everything to do with time.

(I did need my doctor to tell me to take in a lot more sodium than I was in the hot FL summer months, though - I don’t like salty tasting things and don’t add salt when cooking, so my daily diet is very low in sodium, while I lose a LOT to sweat running in the heat. Not a winning combination. I thought using Nuun on top of the electrolytes already in gels was overkill, but nope: I actually need that much.)
 
Off topic but in case anyone wants to combine a MW trip with a shiny new resort (and take the small risk that they do in fact finish on time, they're not still dealing with punch list items during your stay, etc), cash bookings for the Island Tower at Polynesian Villas & Bungalows opened to the public today. Stays start 12/17: https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/resorts/polynesian-resort/rates-rooms/

Several variety of room types for different traveling party sizes.
I'm fighting the urge so hard to add a night at the beginning of my trip just to experience one of these rooms. Ugh......
 
I’ll just toss this into the mix: we’re all individuals with individual fueling needs. Anyone new to fueling should be experimenting in training, not just to see what tastes and feels good or not, but also to see how much and how often they need it. I don’t need a study to know that my body needs a steady input of glucose every 45ish minutes - I know because I’ve experimented and found it to be what works for me. My fueling strategy has nothing to do with distance and everything to do with time.

(I did need my doctor to tell me to take in a lot more sodium than I was in the hot FL summer months, though - I don’t like salty tasting things and don’t add salt when cooking, so my daily diet is very low in sodium, while I lose a LOT to sweat running in the heat. Not a winning combination. I thought using Nuun on top of the electrolytes already in gels was overkill, but nope: I actually need that much.)
Yes,, Always YMMV. I need fueling even with a 5K. I kept bonking during my hard 10K's and finally figured out in fact I do need to fuel. I also need to make sure I consume salt chews after humid runs, plus electrolytes, otherwise I get ocular migraines, which are very annoying.
 
I'm fighting the urge so hard to add a night at the beginning of my trip just to experience one of these rooms. Ugh......
We just initiated purchase of a resale contract at Poly, and if it passes ROFR we should line up to be able to book right about the time points booking opens up (if rumors hold). Right now I'm at Bay Lake for the races, so I don't HAVE to switch, but if the timing works out I'm definitely going to try!
 
@Zutroy While I agree that many overdo it on this subject, I'm not sure research supports your statements. Here are two studies I found quickly.

https://www.trailrunnermag.com/trai...ring-races-may-improve-endurance-performance/

https://journals.lww.com/nsca-scj/f...rathon_fueling_techniques__physiologic.9.aspx

Both articles support my point that fueling during a race becomes relevant after 120-minutes of running. The first article describes a study of fueling needs for runners of a 24-hour ultra. The second article involves marathoners running at a 5:00/mile pace. Neither situation describes the average runner at a Disney race.

“A 2011 review in the Journal of Sports Sciences indicated that in endurance events longer than 2.5 hours, some athletes will perform better with up to 90 grams of carbohydrates per hour (360 calories), coming from multiple transportable carbs with different pathways for intestinal absorption”
 
Yes,, Always YMMV. I need fueling even with a 5K. I kept bonking during my hard 10K's and finally figured out in fact I do need to fuel. I also need to make sure I consume salt chews after humid runs, plus electrolytes, otherwise I get ocular migraines, which are very annoying.
I get ocular migraines also and usually is the warning sign that I am dehydrated. Usually a bottle of sports drink and sitting in a nice dark room will squash them in 15-30 minutes. But yes, they are very annoying and inconvenient especially when they pop up in the middle of an activity or driving. The blurry spots in your vision are the worst.
 













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