Marathon Weekend 2016

[Z-Knight]

Any particular reason for not liking LSU?

Sugar Bowl a few years ago against Illinois...it was bull that LSU got to have a home stadium (effectively) for their bowl game. So I'm bitter and root for them to lose always, except against Ohio State, they suck more.

 

[rteetz]

So I went in last night and made my FP+ reservations and was able to get Space Mountain the whole time I'm there. I guess its no longer going to be down for refurb as previously thought? Splash Mountain will be part of the time we are there but at least we'll get it for a couple of days.

Yes space mountain refurb was cancelled.

 

[kevdad]

Sugar Bowl a few years ago against Illinois...it was bull that LSU got to have a home stadium (effectively) for their bowl game. So I'm bitter and root for them to lose always, except against Ohio State, they suck more.

Are we going to discuss religion or politics next?

 

[Z-Knight]

Well, he asked

 

[SarahDisney]

Are we going to discuss religion or politics next?

I'm fairly certain we're already discussing religion ... college football is a religion (or so I understand from the people I know who care about college football ... I could never get into it)

 

[kevdad]

Well, he asked

Go Blue.

 

[Z-Knight]

Go Appalachian State...so there.

 

[rteetz]

On Wisconsin!

 

[michigandergirl]

Training question - I'm at a point in my training plan that has me alternating long runs, so last weekend I did 18 miles, this weekend 10, then 20,10,20,12,etc. I think I'm supposed to be running the shorter runs at about the same pace as the long runs? My problem is I seem to run the 10 milers about 30 seconds faster per mile, is this okay or should I try and slow it down? It's probably a mental thing, I know it's only 10 miles so I run faster.

Go Green!

 

[IamTrike]

Training question - I'm at a point in my training plan that has me alternating long runs, so last weekend I did 18 miles, this weekend 10, then 20,10,20,12,etc. I think I'm supposed to be running the shorter runs at about the same pace as the long runs? My problem is I seem to run the 10 milers about 30 seconds faster per mile, is this okay or should I try and slow it down? It's probably a mental thing, I know it's only 10 miles so I run faster.

Go Green!

For my training plan I have a goal pace for tempo runs and speedwork. For long and easy runs I have a pace range (That pace range is 90 seconds wide) so I wouldn't think there'd be any issue with running your shorter long runs at a faster pace.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Roll Tide.

(That's what I'm supposed to yell for Alabama, right? I just don't like LSU )

Roll Tide!

but LSU is my next favorite team in the SEC.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Training question - I'm at a point in my training plan that has me alternating long runs, so last weekend I did 18 miles, this weekend 10, then 20,10,20,12,etc. I think I'm supposed to be running the shorter runs at about the same pace as the long runs? My problem is I seem to run the 10 milers about 30 seconds faster per mile, is this okay or should I try and slow it down? It's probably a mental thing, I know it's only 10 miles so I run faster.

Go Green!

I step my long runs when building mileage, too. I try to run my long runs at my easy pace, whatever that is at that point in my training. If that is your easy pace, no problem. If you finish the run feeling tired, you should ease up some.

 

[roxymama]

Roll Tide!

but LSU is my next favorite team in the SEC.

Ahem...clears throat...

A One, A Two, A Helluva Hullabaloo
A Hullabaloo Ray Ray
A Hullabaloo Ray Ray
Hooray-Hooray Vars Vars Tee Ay
Tee Ay, Tee Ay Vars Vars Tee Ay
Tulane!

 

[DopeyBadger]

Training question - I'm at a point in my training plan that has me alternating long runs, so last weekend I did 18 miles, this weekend 10, then 20,10,20,12,etc. I think I'm supposed to be running the shorter runs at about the same pace as the long runs? My problem is I seem to run the 10 milers about 30 seconds faster per mile, is this okay or should I try and slow it down? It's probably a mental thing, I know it's only 10 miles so I run faster.

Go Green!

The way I'd approach this is by looking at the total time it takes to complete the 10 mile run and the relative pace to your planned marathon pace.

A long run of 10 miles for a person looking to break 3:40 (8:23 min/mile) marathon should be around 90 minutes (9:06 min/mile).

If you are looking for a faster time than 3:40, then you'll need to either add distance or slow down the long run. I personally oscillate between 10 and 16 miles on the weekends and run my 10 mile slightly slower than my 16 mile run to keep it above 90 minutes.

If you are looking to run slower than 3:40, then it becomes a question of how much recovery you are trying to get from the other weekends with 20 miles in them. In my opinion, long runs should last between 120-180 minutes. Occasionally, the long run can be less than 120 minutes if you're in the building phase of marathon training or if you're using that weekend as a recovery from a previous weekends workout. Occasionally, a long run longer than 180 minutes can be done for the purpose of mental building but I personally avoid these because of the longer recovery times necessary afterwards.

The other part of it is to work the right physical system during training you don't want to go too fast for your goal marathon pace. As long as your 30 seconds faster per mile that you're doing doesn't creep into within 45 seconds of your goal marathon pace you should be good too. There is a caveat to this--- long runs with a fast finish where the goal is to work some marathon pacing in at the end of a long run (just don't do these all the time because doing the endurance work is important too).

As I was writing @BuckeyeBama added the best advice, if you finish tired, you should probably slow down some. If you haven't done the three 20 mile weekends before in a training session (i.e. first marathon, or new plan), then I'd probably personally run the 10 mile runs slower paced than the 20 mile ones. It just depends on how your body reacts to the mileage/pace.

 

[kevdad]

Go Appalachian State...so there.

You just had to, didn't you? After watching my Broncos and Packers disappear yesterday, I'm now expecting someone to come to the house and kick the dog around a bit. Go ahead, pile on all you Raiders, Chiefs, Bears, Vikings, etc. fans!

Now back to our regularly-scheduled running discussion... Do people wear their MagicBands while running these things? Any issue with discomfort? I'm thinking it would be a good way to pay for that post-run bottle of suds.

 

[michigandergirl]

All good advice, Thanks! This is my first marathon and I'm not at all fast - my easy pace is somewhere between an 11:30 and 12:00 minute mile. I'm not even sure what my goal race pace is exactly. In October I ran a half marathon with an average pace of 10:45 but I'm thinking the full would be more like 11:00/11:15. This is all new to me and I'm sort of figuring it out as I go, but it's going pretty well so far considering I have never run anything longer than a 10k prior to this year.

 

[FFigawi]

Now back to our regularly-scheduled running discussion... Do people wear their MagicBands while running these things? Any issue with discomfort? I'm thinking it would be a good way to pay for that post-run bottle of suds.

I don't run with mine, but lots of people do. I like to have as little on me as possible, so my phone and my band go in my check bag along with my flip flops and dry clothes. The beer truck in the post-race area accepts the bands, so you'll be able to get a cold beer to sip on while waiting in line for the character pictures. Pro tip: buy one of the reusable mugs from the beer stand at the expo and put it in your bag too. You can get half-price refills after the race.

 

[Kathymford]

I had an absolutely terrible run yesterday. Here's hoping I don't get swept at Avengers this weekend! HA.

 

[SarahDisney]

I had an absolutely terrible run yesterday. Here's hoping I don't get swept at Avengers this weekend! HA.

Hopefully your body was busy saving up all its awesome for this weekend and just couldn't spare any awesome for yesterday's run. It happens sometimes.

 

[Barca33Runner]

You just had to, didn't you? After watching my Broncos and Packers disappear yesterday, I'm now expecting someone to come to the house and kick the dog around a bit. Go ahead, pile on all you Raiders, Chiefs, Bears, Vikings, etc. fans!

Now back to our regularly-scheduled running discussion... Do people wear their MagicBands while running these things? Any issue with discomfort? I'm thinking it would be a good way to pay for that post-run bottle of suds.

I run with my MagicBand. I don't like checking a bag so I just wear it. It's not uncomfortable for me and I don't really worry about losing it or anything. I know some people find them uncomfortable, but if you don't have problems wearing it around normally it shouldn't be an issue running with it.