Longest night of my life -- and it's FINALLY over. UPDATE pg. 111

kilee said:
Funny thing is that I was just reading an article this morning that Sprint will be offering GPS on their cell phones now. I'm wondering if the GPS still works if the phone is turned off???? It's something I'm seriously looking into for my teen.

I've heard that a UK company is going to be doing this too.

I don't know how it will work, but I have Garmin products (ForeRunner's 201 and 205 - for running), and the GPS is only active when it is turned on.

Also, depending on the quality of the chip, some GPS do not work in built-up areas (my 201 would never connect indoors and sometimes had some trouble in wooded areas, and my 205 can just about connect indoors when it's near a window).
 
You know, those chips they put in our dogs were really small and unobtrusive ----- I wonder -- :scratchin
 

Good luck and hugs to you...no matter what, don't let him turn it back on you as teens like to do.
And you all aren't the only ones considering GPS, and my oldest is only 14! Robin M.
 
Rock'n Robin said:
Good luck and hugs to you...no matter what, don't let him turn it back on you as teens like to do.
And you all aren't the only ones considering GPS, and my oldest is only 14! Robin M.

2nd this - its HARD doing teenagers. DANG IT IS HARD!

Know youre not alone - and as much of a big jerk he is, it's normal. :guilty:
 
I can't wait to read an update Marseeya. My oldest son is almost 14 and he is driving me crazy. I am so depressed, wondering where I went wrong. Now, he's not doing anything HORRIBLE yet, but sometimes he so angry and Mr. Know It All. And the level of "interest" in his "girlfriends" is downright frightening.

Hugs to us all. And God help us all too.
 
DH called me and said, "DS is calling you. BYE!" and hung up. At that point, I was on my way to the police station, so I waited around a few minutes and DS finally called from the GF's house and started out with some lame excuse that didn't even make sense. He said the guy whose number we had was wrong (he didn't know we called to check it, so major hole in that one!) and that he was "embarrassed," so he decided to just go spend the night in the woods so we wouldn't tease him. :rolleyes2 :rolleyes2 :rolleyes2 That's what he said over the phone, but all I did was yell, "You just come home right now!!!"

In the meantime, DH called the GF's mother! She admitted to everything the kids were doing there. She let them have beer, but assured DH that there were no drugs. I feel so reassured. :rolleyes2 Her DD is allowed to have boys over. She said that DS assured her that we knew exactly where he was. She couldn't have been any more apologetic, but DH made it very clear that our son is not to go to her house again and if he does, he would appreciate it if she'd call us so we could be the bad guys and take care of it.

He also called the police, who said that we could file civil charges against the mom. The state trooper said that basically, they'd all get arrested, including DS, go to jail until they could go before the magistrate, and then they'd get their punishment. If there's ever a next time, we're definitely going that route.

Also in the meantime, one of DS's friends finally called me back and she gleefully spilled the beans about everything. She said there was drinking and sex at the party. I believe the sex part, because he had the largest hickies I've ever seen ALL OVER both sides of his neck. :sad2: The girl I spoke with is a woman scorned, so she was more than happy to tell me what she knew. :rolleyes: I promised her that I wouldn't tell DS about her involvement, and I won't.

When DS came home, he got defensive and started making up his lies, but in the midst of him telling the tale, DH called to tell me about the conversation with GF's mother. :teeth: BUSTED! He got really subdued while I laid it all on the table. I was very proud of how I handled myself. I was calmly furious and there was no question how dead serious I was that this was the worst trouble he's ever been in.

I told him of some of his punishments, but let him know that DH and I needed to sit down and formalize them so we'd all be clear on what's what. Just off the top of my head, I did tell him that his social life is over for a good long time, he lost his cell phone, no computer, no TV. I also told him that his secretiveness has come to an end. I've put up with it for far too long, and that before he gets off his punishment, he'll have to start bringing his friends HERE and that I'm going to get to know each and every one of them. Only then will he be able to get out again -- but even so, that's in the future.

Regarding the secretiveness, I really hope this works. He is so closed off to everyone and has been since he was a child. It's going to be so hard, but I let him know that if he wants a social life, he'll behave like a normal kid and let me in his life. I also told him that IF I ever let him see his GF again, it'll be under our supervision for a very long time. I said that if their relationship can withstand that kind of scrutiny, then they can date some time in the future with my blessing.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I can come back later and let you know the details of the punishment. DH and I did this "four phase" punishment that gives him just a bit more freedom as time goes by, but if he blows it, he goes back to the beginning. It's all up to him how soon he ends this grounding, but it's at least a month, if not far more. He would have to be perfect inside and outside of school to get out in a month, and I hate to say it, but that will never happen.

Thank you all so much for your words of support, advice, and encouragement. This truly was one of the worst days of my life and it really helped for me to be able to check in here and try to get my mind off the fear. :grouphug:
 
Sounds like you kept a cool head (good for you!) ::yes::

At the very least, thank goodness he is home safe!

BTW, I can attest to being a very secretive child myself (don't know if it's in the same way as your DS though), but in a more emotional way (my parents knew everything about my social life!).
 
i'm glad he is okay and that you were able to keep your cool, and thanks for the heads up on what i have to look forward to in the future.
 
Marseeya, I truly feel for you. You know, there was a point when John was about 15 that we initiated proceedings to put him in foster care, he was so unmanageable.

This is going to be as hard on you as it is on him. When John was going through this stuff we had to do the same thing. Someone suggested that we take his door off the hinges so he had no way to close himself off. We thought that was a great idea, except DS lives in teh basement--he's already separated from us. Solution--we banned him from his room altogether. :thumbsup2 He had to share a room with his autistic little brother. Not fun, let me tell you. :sad2: In order to earn his room back he had to tow the line for 2 wks. He pleaded and begged and tested us, therefore earning another 2wks with no access to his room. :teeth: We had a homework component, a behavior component and an attitude component, as well. We made a written contract detailing his responsibilites and ours which we all had to sign.

I don't know how he ever got off restriction, but I think it took several months, with us gradually allowing the bed room, then the house phone, then friends over, etc. I think he got the computer back after about 4months. He didn't get a cell phone until he was over 18.

Recently he told me he didn't know how we stood him back then(he's 19-1/2). That he had been a jerk and was looking for attention(which landed him in a mental hospital, but that's another story :rolleyes2 ) So there is hope. PM me if you want to chat

cathy--been there, unfortunately :rolleyes1
 
So happy to hear that he is safe and mostly that you were able to get the real story. His GF's mother sounds like a real piece of work! I hope everything works out.

P.S. Sorry to make fun, but as a teenager I told some stupid lies, but "slept in the woods", thats a funny one. My parents and I can now look back on some of the dumb things I said and did and laugh. I wish the same for you and your son some day.
 
There is nothing better (IMHO) than calm fury, good for you!

If I may ask, how old is your DS?
 
you made sure to take the TV DVD & Computer out of his room right?

;) ;) ;)
 
I'm so glad he's home safe and sound! I think I'd ground him for that month and tell him that past that..."Oh, by the way I'm going on all your dates with you until you turn 18." ;) :teeth: :thumbsup2
 
Well, I'm glad he is home safe. I just can't imagine what your night was like. It sounds like you and dh have really thought this through and I wish you the best. :)
 

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