Local illegal immigrant march visited by INS agents!

[PixieDust32]

These protests with all the pandering politicians is sickening.

So true.

 

[Free4Life11]

The INS doesn't exist anymore. It was disbanded in 2003 I think. Now CIS is part of Homeland Security.

 

[Free4Life11]

They should surround them with tasers, load them into trucks, and ship them south of the border. Then we could let the ones back in who can prove they are U.S. citizens.

Well that makes of a lot of sense?? If I were at a protest and was shipped off and had to prove that I was a citizen I would be seriously pissed off. It is NOT illegal for citizens to attend a protest.

 

[Free4Life11]

I just wanted to post a quote I read in article that disgusts me:

Nineth Castillo, a 26-year-old waitress from Guatemala who joined the Atlanta march, said she has lived in the United States for 11 years “without a scrap of paper.”

Asked whether she was afraid to parade her undocumented status in front of a massive police presence, she laughed and said: “Why? They kick us out, we’re coming back tomorrow.”

I don't even care much about this issue but that kind of attitude just makes me mad. She has been here 11 years, why couldn't she apply for a visa? Why couldn't she start the immigration process?

I wonder how many who here come here illegally have even TRIED to come here legally. THAT would be interesting to know.

 

[momof2inPA]

Well that makes of a lot of sense?? If I were at a protest and was shipped off and had to prove that I was a citizen I would be seriously pissed off. It is NOT illegal for citizens to attend a protest.

It may seem a bit far-fetched, but the only way we'll be able to weed out the illegals is for the people to assume the burden of proof (that they are citizens), instead of our government having to prove that they are not.

 

[Free4Life11]

It may seem a bit far-fetched, but the only way we'll be able to weed out the illegals is for the people to assume the burden of proof (that they are citizens), instead of our government having to prove that they are not.

yes but there's no reason to ship people hundreds of miles away and THEN prove they are citizens. Doesn't make any sense.

 

[Snowysmom]

What bothers me most about the illegal immigration issue is the word "illegal." Many people seem to forget what the word means. These people are here, against the law, and should be sent back to their country of origin. Then, they can try to come back legally as so many have done before them. Why is the US Congress trying to appease the illegal immigrants? Congress should be trying to protect our borders and send back those who should not be here. The news in our area interviewed one man who is here legally. He is rightfully upset that our Congress wants to give the illegal immigrants amnesty. He came to this country within the laws and he expects others to do the same. It is really quite simple.

 

[lyeag]

I really get tired of hearing about all these jobs Americans won't do. The truth is the illegals are here working driving down labor costs. I find it funny that people scream for raising the min wage, but turn a blind eye when it comes to illegals.


I for one have worked plenty of jobs. I have worked in fast food, waited tables, CUT GRASS, childcare, some of those jobs Americans don't want to do supposedly. Now, as a 36 year old with a degree, would I WANT to do them? No, but I did do them as I worked my way up. I would like that opportunity to be there for my children. I wouldn't hesitate to cut grass again if I had to. Heck, I could make plenty of money in my neighborhood alone. (I cut my own grass by the way).

I wonder how many other DISers have done/do the jobs they claim Americans don't want to take?

 

[PixieDust32]

I just wanted to post a quote I read in article that disgusts me:



I don't even care much about this issue but that kind of attitude just makes me mad. She has been here 11 years, why couldn't she apply for a visa? Why couldn't she start the immigration process?

I wonder how many who here come here illegally have even TRIED to come here legally. THAT would be interesting to know.

11 years? WOW! that's a long time, but she can't just apply for a visa just like that. She needs to be married to a citizen or a legal resident, then leave the country and wait for her visa.

 

[Free4Life11]

11 years? WOW! that's a long time, but she can't just apply for a visa just like that. She needs to be married to a citizen or a legal resident, then leave the country and wait for her visa.

Oh I know, it was more the fact that if she were forced to leave she would come right back in. Well that's inexcusable -- after 11 years she would have no excuse to not at least try and come here legally because at least then she would know people here, etc.

I for one have worked plenty of jobs. I have worked in fast food, waited tables, CUT GRASS, childcare, some of those jobs Americans don't want to do supposedly. Now, as a 36 year old with a degree, would I WANT to do them? No, but I did do them as I worked my way up. I would like that opportunity to be there for my children. I wouldn't hesitate to cut grass again if I had to. Heck, I could make plenty of money in my neighborhood alone. (I cut my own grass by the way).

I wonder how many other DISers have done/do the jobs they claim Americans don't want to take?

That's a good point. I think ideally, a lot of these jobs "Americans wont do" (that kind of seems like a slap in the face to us, doesn't it?) are things that younger people would do and then work their way up the ladder.

You know this is almost like outsourcing in our own country. I understand how high labor costs can be but you just have to deal with it!

I rememer printing up posters offering lawn mowing, raking, and snow shoveling for $5 bucks an hour! I remember shoveling until 1 a.m. after a snowstorm once! But now I'm a lot older and have more education. I'd rather not mow lawns for $5 an hour, but if push came to shove I would do it (in fact I kind of like mowing the lawn!) Oh yeah I also delivered papers when I was 12 getting up at 5:30 every morning.

 

[Free4Life11]

Oh I just wanted to add, the media is now referring to them as "undocumented workers."

 

[momof2inPA]

yes but there's no reason to ship people hundreds of miles away and THEN prove they are citizens. Doesn't make any sense.

That part was sarcasm.

 

[lyeag]

Oh I know, it was more the fact that if she were forced to leave she would come right back in. Well that's inexcusable -- after 11 years she would have no excuse to not at least try and come here legally because at least then she would know people here, etc.



That's a good point. I think ideally, a lot of these jobs "Americans wont do" (that kind of seems like a slap in the face to us, doesn't it?) are things that younger people would do and then work their way up the ladder.

You know this is almost like outsourcing in our own country. I understand how high labor costs can be but you just have to deal with it!

I rememer printing up posters offering lawn mowing, raking, and snow shoveling for $5 bucks an hour! I remember shoveling until 1 a.m. after a snowstorm once! But now I'm a lot older and have more education. I'd rather not mow lawns for $5 an hour, but if push came to shove I would do it (in fact I kind of like mowing the lawn!) Oh yeah I also delivered papers when I was 12 getting up at 5:30 every morning.

I helped my brother deliver papers in all kinds of weather at around 6 a.m. also.

I see all of these people on welfare who can't get a job, well what about all the jobs the illegals take? I have a problem all around. The businesses that hire these people should be HEAVILY fined. (Yes, I know exactly what that would do to the cost of produce and other products. ) Once those jobs dry up, how many will be crossing the border then? Personally, no job is beneath me. I will do whatever it takes for my family as long as it is legal. Would I rather teach? Yes, I have a degree in education. However, I would not hesitate to do a job if meant money my family needed. I believe there are many other Americans who feel the same way. I am insulted by the concept that these illegals made America and they do they jobs we dont't want.

 

[PixieDust32]

Oh I know, it was more the fact that if she were forced to leave she would come right back in. Well that's inexcusable -- after 11 years she would have no excuse to not at least try and come here legally because at least then she would know people here, etc.

Oh of course!! She had plenty of time.

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

Well, I am a professional nanny. This is my career and has been for the past 12 years. My salary is very near that of an elementary teacher. My colleagues and I have a VERY hard time finding decent positions. Why on earth would anyone want to hire an English speaking, college educated, experienced nanny when they can hire an illegal?

They can pay her $100 a week to work 60 hours doing childcare, laundry, ironing, cooking, housekeeping, and anything else they can think of. No need to pay taxes or any of that complicated stuff! And they can treat her however they like because there isn't anyone for her to complain to!

Do I want to do the work the illegals are doing? Yes, I do! But I want my taxes paid, I want a written work agreement, I want clear hours and duties, and I want my salary to reflect my experience. I am so lucky to have a position that has all of those things, but the market is HORRIBLE for nannies looking for families. Maybe if hiring an illegal wasn't such an easy out the nanny market would be more lucrative to American workers!

 

[Chicago526]

First, I'm not advocating illegal imagration AT ALL. I hate that we have so many illegals here. What I'm about to post I got from "Anderson Cooper 360" on CNN last night.

I just wanted to point out to those that asked "why can't they just come here legally" that it is 99.9999999% impossible for a poor person to enter the US on a work visa (the only kind of visa that allows you to work here) and/or apply for citizenship.

It's not that they don't want to be legal. It's that they are not allowed to even apply for citizenship in most cases, because they have no specialized skills and no employer to sponser them, they simply can't get in, period. The only way to get here is to over stay a tourist visa, or risk crossing the boarder.

Oh, but if you have $1 million to invest in a buisness, you are granted citizenship (only $500,000 if it's a strugleing US industry). If you are a major legue sports player, you can get in since the team franchise will sponser you, same if you're a movie star, the studio gets you in. Doctor with a specialty? No problem! So, we'll let in wealthy and/or educated people, but not poor uneducated people. There is a 'diversification lottery', they pull 55,000 applications from poor people from out of a hat each year and grant citizenship, but Mexicans and most other central and south american nations aren't allowed in the pool (no explanation was given as to why, my guess is all the illegal imagration from these countries).

We need to seal the borders (north and south), no question. Once that's done, a guest worker program or eased up immagration requirements would, I think, be more than in order.

 

[jodifla]

I have to say, when I read these threads, I'm shocked and appalled at the attitudes here.

In South Florida, which is a true melting pot, we have all kinds of people. Many are immigrants, and quite a few illegal. I don't think SoFla would be a magically better place if they were all rounded up and taken home. The immigrants there add quite a bit to the local economy. You can get things WAY CHEAPER than you can in other parts of the country.

I have to laugh when people say they'll pay the higher prices that the lack of illegal immigrants will bring. Take a close look at the budget boards and the transportation boards, and you'll see that we don't want to pay for anything. What do you think contributes to the success of Wal-Mart, Target and E-Bay?

The truth is, we'll never be able to seal our borders. People sneak in because they're desparate, and because it's pretty much impossible to get in to the U.S. if you're poor. So people come in, work, have families and children who American, and take the gamble. Because for most of these folks, the worst day in the U.S. as an illegal immigrant is better than the best day back on their home country.

I wonder how many of you wouldn't make similar choices, if you were in their shoes.

I bet a lot of you had forbears who came to this country illegally. You were lucky by the grace of birth to be an American...

 

[Free4Life11]

http://www.foreignborn.com/visas_imm/immigrant_visas/9imm_process.htm

That is a good site that explains the process.

 

[CRAZEDMOMOF2]

I have to say, when I read these threads, I'm shocked and appalled at the attitudes here.

In South Florida, which is a true melting pot, we have all kinds of people. Many are immigrants, and quite a few illegal. I don't think SoFla would be a magically better place if they were all rounded up and taken home. The immigrants there add quite a bit to the local economy. You can get things WAY CHEAPER than you can in other parts of the country.

I have to laugh when people say they'll pay the higher prices that the lack of illegal immigrants will bring. Take a close look at the budget boards and the transportation boards, and you'll see that we don't want to pay for anything. What do you think contributes to the success of Wal-Mart, Target and E-Bay?

The truth is, we'll never be able to seal our borders. People sneak in because they're desparate, and because it's pretty much impossible to get in to the U.S. if you're poor. So people come in, work, have families and children who American, and take the gamble. Because for most of these folks, the worst day in the U.S. as an illegal immigrant is better than the best day back on their home country.

I wonder how many of you wouldn't make similar choices, if you were in their shoes.

I bet a lot of you had forbears who came to this country illegally. You were lucky by the grace of birth to be an American...

As a woman of color I don't have a problem with immigrants coming here to better themselves, but I think the way they're going about it stinks. Their arrogance and some of their attitudes stinks imho.
I think it's only fair that they should have to go through the proper channels that other immigrants went through in order to become legalized.

Another thing, that mentality that we owe them something does not sit well with me at all because I know if I went to Mexico demanding that the laws be changed for my benefit I'd be sitting in a jail cell right now!

 

[jodifla]

As a woman of color I don't have a problem with immigrants coming here to better themselves, but I think the way they're going about it stinks. Their arrogance and some of their attitudes stinks imho.
I think it's only fair that they should have to go through the proper channels that other immigrants went through in order to become legalized.

Another thing, that mentality that we owe them something does not sit well with me at all because I know if I went to Mexico demanding that the laws be changed for my benefit I'd be sitting in a jail cell right now!

But do you understand, there is no legal avenue for most of these people? There is NO WAY for most of them to come her legally. That's why they come illegally.

People keep nattering on about the legality of the issue, when it's a non issue. They either take the chance and come here illegally, or they stay home and starve.

Which would you do for your children?
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