Line Jumping?

[Diegosmom]

A few weeks ago there was a thread on TSM and I asked about DS and I getting in stand by line while DH got in line for fast pass and then him joining us in line. I was informed that this is line jumping and I thought about it and I agree.

But then I was reading unofficial guide and in the tourguide for kids that love dumbo it says to have one parent get in line 24 people behind first parent and hand off the kid after first ride.

Just wondering how everyone feels about this.

It would be just DS, DH and me so if we all rode at the same time either DH or me would ride by ourselves while the other rode with DS (only 2 to a cart right?). So it is technically the same number of people ahead of you....

So how does everyone feel about this?

 

[LaurenT]

You'll get mixed answers.
I'm fine with it (it's sometimes called the Dumbo Drop, or Chuck Bubba).
They don't put groups together..so if you're standing in line alone, you'll have an empty seat next to you on the elephant..therefore, you're not taking someone elses spot..
Would you be riding Dumbo if not for the fact that DH is handing you DS...probably not...but you paid for your ticket and are allowed to stand in line for you turn regardless of what the reasons are.

 

[beautyqueen]

If someone in front of me did this I wouldn't be bothered by it.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

As a general rule, I think the answer to whether people will be annoyed or wether it's "wrong" involves knowing whether you are you going to take up any more vehicles by having the children line jump than if you rode yourself. For example, if YOU are in line, that's one vehicle. If you add three kids, now that's TWO ride vehicles.

If Disney DOES have any posted regulation about line jumping, i don't know what it is, and they certainly don't enforce it.

But generally speaking, it's a pretty lame thing to do. Isn't one ride enough? And it certainly doesn't teach kids anything about fairness or taking turns.

 

[Brocktoon]

Just my opinion, but I look at it as going down a slippery slope ...

What happens if DH and DW are there with two kids, and each rides with one child ... BUT they then have grandma and grandpa later in line and hand both kids off to ride again. Or why not line up a larger crew of solo riding adults that the kids can continually be handed off to ...

A rule has to be set somewhere or over time a loophole will be explioted and we'll go down the slippery slope. Although handing one child off doesn't seem like a major issue, it potentially sets the groundwork for problems later down the line

 

[notnothin]

I have no problem with this at all, but I think it's time to get out the

 

[momtoejanda]

it is a tough question. I dont have a problem with what you are saying but I have a problem when one person waits in line and 50 of their friends then show up.

I always give a little when it comes to small children. For example, I always make my 8 year old stand in line but sometimes if you have a 2 year old who cant stand still sometimes one parent needs to take them out of line and come back.

 

[Danibelle]

This is a train wreck. Now 2 threads in 1 week?

 

[Zeebs]

I did a similar thing once, hubby and DS1 were in line for the Magic Carpet ride while I fed the baby, just as I finished I saw they were at the front of the line so I fired Seth over the fence and he rode.

I did this because it didn't lengthen anyone's wait. Would I do it on Dumbo?, no because we all like to ride and wait together to me it is part of the deal of Disney. That said if it was my one and only time at Disney (and it didn't lengthen anyone elses wait) I probably would because it would be a good thing to help fit more into my trip.

On another note, I don't usually worry about what is going on around me while waiting for a line, but after a particularly tiring day we were having one last ride on the teacups, special request from Cullen and the people in front of us a family of 4 decided to take one teacup each. Why?????? was my question at the time. There were no cameras out, they were all spinning at what seemed like a fast speed, so I discounted it was because some of them didn't like spinning, it just seemed like a selfish thing to do, massive line they increased it by 3 families worth of people.

Kirsten

 

[Diegosmom]

Thanks for all the responces. I really dont know how I feel about it. And nice to hear everyone else's take.

I'm sure DH could careless about riding Dumbo (I for one want to ride it lol). But TSM both of use would love to ride (and more fun when DS is with you). But I am really not certain how I or others would feel about handing him off. But I do see how he might not do well standing in a lot of lines and having DH take him to get a drink or something then some back to the line (DH of course not riding) would be helpful. But again I am not looking to piss anyone off...

I was surprised to read this in Unofficial guide as something to do "Dumbo drop"

 

[buffettgirl]

A few weeks ago there was a thread on TSM and I asked about DS and I getting in stand by line while DH got in line for fast pass and then him joining us in line. I was informed that this is line jumping and I thought about it and I agree.

But then I was reading unofficial guide and in the tourguide for kids that love dumbo it says to have one parent get in line 24 people behind first parent and hand off the kid after first ride.

Just wondering how everyone feels about this.

It would be just DS, DH and me so if we all rode at the same time either DH or me would ride by ourselves while the other rode with DS (only 2 to a cart right?). So it is technically the same number of people ahead of you....

So how does everyone feel about this?

In that specific situation I can't even see what the issue would be - you're going to take up 2 ride vehicles no matter what.. two at the same time or on two consecutive rides.

Here's something to think about though - the BEST ever dumbo pictures come when you sit in the car ahead of your child. You cannot beat the pics you can get if you put your dumbo j ust higher than theirs (with dh too) and let them both wave at you. It's the quintessential dumbo shot.

also, by letting your child ride twice it's taking twice as long - you've just wasted time you could be on a different ride. How important is dumbo really?

 

[Diegosmom]

This is a train wreck. Now 2 threads in 1 week?

Really not trying for a trainwreck and wasnt looking for a fight but really just looking for what people thought. Not sure how I feel about it so before I do it wanted others opinions so I could make a good decision on this.

 

[FOCUS]

This is actually one of the reasons that I never recommend that book.

 

[t_catt11]

Dumbo Drop, Chuck Bubba, etc. The one non-essentail (i.e. potty break) exception that a lot of folks will make to line jumping rules, since (as was stated above) the following is true:

(Mom + kid on 1st ride) + (Dad + kid on second ride) = 2 Dumbos
and
(Mom + kid on ride) + (Dad riding alone) = 2 Dumbos

That being said, I don't think I'd ever do this; unless you space it perfectly and literally chuck junior over the rail, you have to push past people, which is simply rude.

 

[LaurenT]

Thanks for all the responces. I really dont know how I feel about it. And nice to hear everyone else's take.

I'm sure DH could careless about riding Dumbo (I for one want to ride it lol). But TSM both of use would love to ride (and more fun when DS is with you). But I am really not certain how I or others would feel about handing him off. But I do see how he might not do well standing in a lot of lines and having DH take him to get a drink or something then some back to the line (DH of course not riding) would be helpful. But again I am not looking to piss anyone off...

I was surprised to read this in Unofficial guide as something to do "Dumbo drop"

Just two things....
Alot of DH's who were never interested in Dumbo suddenly want to ride (including mine) because it's the only way to see what's happening over the wall (the wall behind which they are building the new Fantasyland...you know how guys and heavy machinery are!).
And the Dumbo drop really only works on Dumbo...it will definitely not work on TSM..you'll have to be at RD to get a FP and then ride in order to do that one more than once...

 

[Diegosmom]

In that specific situation I can't even see what the issue would be - you're going to take up 2 ride vehicles no matter what.. two at the same time or on two consecutive rides.

Here's something to think about though - the BEST ever dumbo pictures come when you sit in the car ahead of your child. You cannot beat the pics you can get if you put your dumbo j ust higher than theirs (with dh too) and let them both wave at you. It's the quintessential dumbo shot.

also, by letting your child ride twice it's taking twice as long - you've just wasted time you could be on a different ride. How important is dumbo really?

Thanks for the pic suggestion. I was thinking better pic would be standing at the side but you have a good point.

And normally dumbo wont be too important but for some reason DS loves Dumbo. We watched the movie at least once everyday for 3 weeks straight...of course now the new thing is 2 Caballeros (been watching that for 2 weeks straight...lol kids) so was thinking it might be "important" to DS. But hadnt even thought about the park time it would be taking. Would I rather ride Dumbo twice or ride Dumbo and another ride I might not otherwise get to. Seeing as DS and DH have never been to disney and I have only been once 20 years ago we would surely love to ride more rides.

Thanks for making that point...now I know what I want to do (see this is why I love the Disboards).

 

[crashbb]

The only "problem" that I can see, is that it just seems unfair to kids with only one adult. The kid doing the "Bubba Chuck", gets to ride twice, while only waiting once whereas those with only one adult with them would have to wait all the way through the line again.

Yes, I know life is unfair and I'm not suggesting a tar and feathering for those using this idea, just pointing out a potential criticism.

 

[ccgirl]

My whole feeling on this is that people need to stop the "it's only me" attitude. What if 20 people in front of you did this too? The line would move a lot slower. Do not get in line unless your entire party is there. Do potty breaks before getting in the line.

Most times if you have to ask if something is okay, it is your conscience telling you that you shouldn't do something. This is a general statement, not directed at the OP.

 

[NaLisa]

As a general rule, I think the answer to whether people will be annoyed or wether it's "wrong" involves knowing whether you are you going to take up any more vehicles by having the children line jump than if you rode yourself. For example, if YOU are in line, that's one vehicle. If you add three kids, now that's TWO ride vehicles.

If Disney DOES have any posted regulation about line jumping, i don't know what it is, and they certainly don't enforce it.

But generally speaking, it's a pretty lame thing to do. Isn't one ride enough? And it certainly doesn't teach kids anything about fairness or taking turns.

I just read this strategy in UG last night and was surprised by it. Personally, I don't think it's fair and wouldn't do it.

I've talked with DH and DDs about not letting this kind of thing bother us on vacation, because I've read some pretty ugly posts on here about people trying to get an advantage and others' angry reactions when they see (or often assume) that someone's taking advantage.

I'll never forget a thread on here when one person complained about seeing a middle aged, "obviously healthy" man riding an ECV around the park. The poster said he later saw the same middle aged man speed walking around the park, so there was no need for the ECV. Later a man replied that it was probably him on the ECV, which belonged to the man's elderly mother. She wanted to ride the train and couldn't take the ECV, so the son had to ride to the next station to meet her. I'm sure I don't have all the details right, but basically I took away from the story that you don't know someone else's situation and shouldn't judge.

I'll remind myself (and DH and DDs) that you can't control others' behavior, you can only control your response to that behavior.

 

[LaurenT]

The only "problem" that I can see, is that it just seems unfair to kids with only one adult. The kid doing the "Bubba Chuck", gets to ride twice, while only waiting once whereas those with only one adult with them would have to wait all the way through the line again.

Yes, I know life is unfair and I'm not suggesting a tar and feathering for those using this idea, just pointing out a potential criticism.

Same thing can be said for Rider Swaps...Joey gets to ride with his Mom while Dad watches the baby, then Joey gets to ride with Dad while Mom watches the baby....
Either I accept that they have a family make up that allows for this and I don't, or I rent a baby.....