Line Jumping?

[DreamLiveLoveDisney]

If you and DS rode together, and you had DH in line for the next round, and then you got off of the ride and handed DS to DH, and they ride together- (Similar to Disney's child swap.) I wouldn't have a problem with that.
However, if you were to hop in line with them after your ride, I think I might give you some looks....

 

[buffettgirl]

My whole feeling on this is that people need to stop the "it's only me" attitude. What if 20 people in front of you did this too? The line would move a lot slower. Do not get in line unless your entire party is there. Do potty breaks before getting in the line.

Most times if you have to ask if something is okay, it is your conscience telling you that you shouldn't do something. This is a general statement, not directed at the OP.

how is the line moving slower? It's still 3 people in line taking up 2 cars. She's not talking about 1 person holding a spot for 3 people. She's talking specifically about 2 people riding in 1 car then the baby is passed off to the person behind in teh next group also riding in 1 car.


but whatever. There is a big difference between holding a spot and this.

 

[jjsdad]

I have done this on dumbo off of a tour guide mike recommendation. We were at the fantasyland rope drop and were on the first and 2nd rides. One thing I will say is they let us on the ride before everyone was done exiting the ride so my youngest just got on the ride again with me, no need to hand him over the fence/rail.

 

[LaurenT]

My whole feeling on this is that people need to stop the "it's only me" attitude. What if 20 people in front of you did this too? The line would move a lot slower. Do not get in line unless your entire party is there. Do potty breaks before getting in the line.

Most times if you have to ask if something is okay, it is your conscience telling you that you shouldn't do something. This is a general statement, not directed at the OP.

ccgirl...even if every single 3 person family did this, it would not hols the line up one minute...that's why it is generally accepted...if all three stand in line togther, 2 will be in one dumbo and the other parent will ride alone in the second dumbo....if they stand in line 24 people apart and the DH hands the baby to DW, there will be two people in the first dumbo, and then two people in the other dumbo...either way, they are using two dumbo's...same thing. Why do they need to ride with one empty seat on the second dumbo? May as well let a baby/little kid enjoy that spot.
I should add that this is really only feasible if it is a LITTLE kid...you can't really chuck your 10 year old over the railing.

 

[calypso*a*go-go]

I wouldn't have a problem with it. A lot of the situations where people are considered "line jumpers" doesn't get to me as we've all had those moments where we're almost at the front of the line when one of the kids has to use the bathroom (in spite of our best efforts for it not to happen), so I don't mind if a parent leaves with the child and comes back. However, when it's a horde of teenagers pushing their way through the line -- that's a different story!

 

[NaLisa]

On this particular strategy, I think the fact that it's included in the UG makes it seem like an acceptable thing to do. "Everyone else is doing it, why not me?"

 

[WDSearcher]

Really not trying for a trainwreck and wasnt looking for a fight but really just looking for what people thought. Not sure how I feel about it so before I do it wanted others opinions so I could make a good decision on this.

I think it's important here to note that the piece of advice in the book was specifically directed at the Dumbo ride. It was not a "here's a strategy to use for ALL rides" thing.

Dumbo -- as it exists today, pre-double-Dumbo-new-Fantasyland -- is a very popular "little kid" ride, and little kids like to do it 2 or 3 times. And the ride is not necessarily conducive to mom, dad and little kid riding together in one row. AND ... the queue is set up in such a way that it's quite simple to have one parent wait while the other hands off the kid. If the child wants to ride "with" both mom and dad (as opposed to "with mom in the same seat and dad sitting behind us"), the best way to accomplish this is to have both parents wait in line at different points in the line. And if parent #2 is 24 people behind parent #1, then the child gets two rides in a row and everyone is happy.

Disney also has no problem with this particular ride strategy because -- as mentioned upthread -- they are not going to load a stranger next to an adult in Dumbo (as the rows are really snug for two adults and they're not going to put someone else's kid in with a total stranger). And the second parent has waited in line just like the first parent did, so no one is "jumping".

On a ride like TSMM, Disney will load "single riders" -- total strangers -- together, so if you are waiting and ride with your child, and then when you end your ride you hand your child to the other spouse who has been waiting, then you WILL be taking a seat away from someone Disney would have put there. So that IS "jumping".

It very much depends on how the rides are loaded, how popular they are, and how easy it is to get from where the ride ends to where the ride loads.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Either I accept that they have a family make up that allows for this and I don't, or I rent a baby.....

Now I know what kind of business to set up when I "retire" to Florida!

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

ah yes...Chuck Bubba relay...yet another example of an accepted and approved form of space saving in a queue.

 

[Phil'sFrontier]

To me this seems shady(my Jersey Shore word of the day...lol). I will try to bring a new perspective here. What if it is nearing closing time, and this is happening with regularity throughout the park. The extra time it takes to load children into the ride, means that people behind will get turned away when the ride shuts down for that day.

This acctually happened to me this winter here in Yukon. We had a hockey day in Canada visit by CBC's Hockey Night in Canada crew in Feb. I got to meet a few hockey legends(Wendel Clark, Cassie Campbell). Unfortunately when I was in line to meet Trevor Linden I did not get there in time to meet him. I showed up 90 minutes before it started(autograph session), at which time there was maybe a few hundred people in front of me. Being a hockey town everyone had brout down Jerseys, hockey cards, sticks, posters. On top of this each person got a free 8x10 signed. We were standing in line watching people walk out with a bag or an armload of stuff signed...say 3-4 items per person. A voluteer came out and told us we were only aloud one item because there wasn't enough time to get eveyone in. Turns out they cut off the line RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY DD9. What bothered me was most of the line was adults getting things for their own collction while there was at least 100 kids in line that did not get to meet Trevor Linden while all these greedy/selfish adults walked out with armloads of autographed schwag....end rant

 

[Diegosmom]

I believe in disney if you are in line at closing they will let you ride. Not sure if there is a long wait if the close the line early or what but if you are standing in line you get to ride.

Thanks for the info on TSM that make sence that they would load another person in your cart with you...but not that way on Dumbo.

Also when does the new Dumbo open? I just realized I might have asked a question I didnt need to...we are going in Sept. will it be open then?

 

[LaurenT]

To me this seems shady(my Jersey Shore word of the day...lol). I will try to bring a new perspective here. What if it is nearing closing time, and this is happening with regularity throughout the park. The extra time it takes to load children into the ride, means that people behind will get turned away when the ride shuts down for that day.

This acctually happened to me this winter here in Yukon. We had a hockey day in Canada visit by CBC's Hockey Night in Canada crew in Feb. I got to meet a few hockey legends(Wendel Clark, Cassie Campbell). Unfortunately when I was in line to meet Trevor Linden I did not get there in time to meet him. I showed up 90 minutes before it started(autograph session), at which time there was maybe a few hundred people in front of me. Being a hockey town everyone had brout down Jerseys, hockey cards, sticks, posters. On top of this each person got a free 8x10 signed. We were standing in line watching people walk out with a bag or an armload of stuff signed...say 3-4 items per person. A voluteer came out and told us we were only aloud one item because there wasn't enough time to get eveyone in. Turns out they cut off the line RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY DD9. What bothered me was most of the line was adults getting things for their own collction while there was at least 100 kids in line that did not get to meet Trevor Linden while all these greedy/selfish adults walked out with armloads of autographed schwag....end rant

Phil...read the thread..this isn't about a park wide strategy...it's about one particular ride at which this particular strategy does not hold up the line or take any dumbo's away from anyone waiting in line.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

To me this seems shady(my Jersey Shore word of the day...lol). I will try to bring a new perspective here. What if it is nearing closing time, and this is happening with regularity throughout the park. The extra time it takes to load children into the ride, means that people behind will get turned away when the ride shuts down for that day.

If you are in line at closing time, you get to ride the ride. The line is closed at closing time, but all riders get a chance to ride. They don't shut down the ride with people still in line.

Also, this particular strategy only works at Dumbo because of the layout. You can't do a Bubba Chuck at Splash Mountain, for example.

 

[LaurenT]

The new Dumbo won't open until 2013...possibly late 2012...but not by this coming September...

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Also when does the new Dumbo open? I just realized I might have asked a question I didnt need to...we are going in Sept. will it be open then?

No, I believe the timeframe for the new Dumbo is mid to late 2012.

 

[MikeandReneePlus5]

I think it's important here to note that the piece of advice in the book was specifically directed at the Dumbo ride. It was not a "here's a strategy to use for ALL rides" thing.

Dumbo -- as it exists today, pre-double-Dumbo-new-Fantasyland -- is a very popular "little kid" ride, and little kids like to do it 2 or 3 times. And the ride is not necessarily conducive to mom, dad and little kid riding together in one row. AND ... the queue is set up in such a way that it's quite simple to have one parent wait while the other hands off the kid. If the child wants to ride "with" both mom and dad (as opposed to "with mom in the same seat and dad sitting behind us"), the best way to accomplish this is to have both parents wait in line at different points in the line. And if parent #2 is 24 people behind parent #1, then the child gets two rides in a row and everyone is happy.

Disney also has no problem with this particular ride strategy because -- as mentioned upthread -- they are not going to load a stranger next to an adult in Dumbo (as the rows are really snug for two adults and they're not going to put someone else's kid in with a total stranger). And the second parent has waited in line just like the first parent did, so no one is "jumping".

On a ride like TSMM, Disney will load "single riders" -- total strangers -- together, so if you are waiting and ride with your child, and then when you end your ride you hand your child to the other spouse who has been waiting, then you WILL be taking a seat away from someone Disney would have put there. So that IS "jumping".

It very much depends on how the rides are loaded, how popular they are, and how easy it is to get from where the ride ends to where the ride loads.

all well and good and I agree 100%.

Bottom lline: child gets to ride because someone saved a place for him in the queue. perfectly reasonable.

 

[TurkA77]

it is a tough question. I dont have a problem with what you are saying but I have a problem when one person waits in line and 50 of their friends then show up.

I always give a little when it comes to small children. For example, I always make my 8 year old stand in line but sometimes if you have a 2 year old who cant stand still sometimes one parent needs to take them out of line and come back.

This is what I was thinking.

One circumstance I was thinking of is if your significant other, or someone in your group has to make a bathroom stop and you want to get in line, I have no problem with them jumping in with you when they are done. But I dont want to see a huge group of people jumping in with just one person in front of me. That's just rude and disrespectful.

 

[FOCUS]

ccgirl...even if every single 3 person family did this, it would not hols the line up one minute...that's why it is generally accepted...if all three stand in line togther, 2 will be in one dumbo and the other parent will ride alone in the second dumbo....if they stand in line 24 people apart and the DH hands the baby to DW, there will be two people in the first dumbo, and then two people in the other dumbo...either way, they are using two dumbo's...same thing. Why do they need to ride with one empty seat on the second dumbo? May as well let a baby/little kid enjoy that spot.
I should add that this is really only feasible if it is a LITTLE kid...you can't really chuck your 10 year old over the railing.

That's only true if you assume that every adult were going to ride regardless. I don't think you can assume that.

And the second parent has waited in line just like the first parent did, so no one is "jumping".

The child did line jump as they did not start at the back of the line the second time through....whether you can justify or not, they did jump.

 

[Tinkerbellie16]

Let's see, I'm not sure how I feel about it but I don't ride Dumbo so I don't really care As for any other ride I actually go on, I would never do this. Our family goes on together and we rarely 'split up' for any reason unless someone is doing a specialty thing (like a pirate cruise or kids care).

 

[LaurenT]

That's only true if you assume that every adult were going to ride regardless. I don't think you can assume that.


The child did line jump as they did not start at the back of the line the second time through....whether you can justify or not, they did jump.

Both adults have the right to ride - just like every other guest at the park....so it doesn't matter whether or not they would have done it anyway, or are just doing it to be with their child....