Line jumpers, or "I'm just catching up to my party"

[dvczerfs]

Well, I don't think that's being discussed here. My understanding is that when we're talking about folks who are not letting others pass, it is almost surely because they didn't see the guest "leave the line". Remember before I said my tolerance level is for up to age 10, but that's only in terms of granting benefit-of-doubt: If I see anyone pass me leaving the queue, I wouldn't think twice about letting them pass getting back into the queue, regardless of their age -- even if they're a bunch of teenagers -- and I'd go so far as to help them get past someone nearby who questions them, confirming that I did seem the leave the queue earlier, and that they're not actually line jumping.

Somewhat related to this is the Tally of Operations Designed or Changed Possibly Due to Abuse thread. It outlines a set of WDW feature, services and perquisites that Disney has curtailed, eliminated or changed, presumably due to abuse and exploitation. WDW could be so much better than it is today, if Disney didn't have to make the changes necessary to combat abuse and exploitation.

intresting, sad , but intresting. i worked in retail secur. at one time, maybe thats why i feel the way i do, but people would buy a pair of sneakers, try to put jewlery in the toes of the shoe. anything w/ a pocket. they would rip seams, its amazing. also, people can argue over just about anything.its amazing if you think of how many people from so many cultures can cram into one park and it basicly runs fairly smooth.

 

[Married_Him_@_Disney]

So, lets assume that - for the purpose of this thread - we can give a pardon to the Potty Breakers and the Groups catching up with groups. There are other line cutters that should not prevail!

Last April - height of Spring Break - DH and I are on last day at AK. . . and this is my post pregnancy trip - and DS did not join us. DH and I are on a roller coaster frenzie, and are determined to get a few rides in on Everest before we have to leave.

We used our Fastpasses, but still needed to ride one more time! Single Rider was looking good with only a 20 minute wait posted. About 15 minutes into our wait - the line is still long. We've got super CM whose doing too-good-of-a-job filling the coaster - pairing parties of 3 together, and leaving us Singles hanging.

We have a group of five Teens / Early 20's right behind us. We watch as 3 of them jump the railing and enter the Fastpass line and try to go in the Fast Pass line - and they did NOT have Fastpasses. We just laughed b/c we knew they would be sent back out.

The 2 guys remaining in line seemed to think that their exiting friends must have been successful, and they come up with a plan to get through the line faster. After 20 minutes in line behind us they seem to surprisingly realize that they know somebody who's further ahead in line. So, they pushed past everyone to catch up to a teenage girl who was waiting by herself. NO DOUBT - they did not know this girl - but prentended to.

Okay - so it's not that bad. . . 2 people cut in front of us. No biggie right? Not so right. Shortly after they cut - the 3 guys who tried to go in the Fast Pass line were back and unsuccessful! And what do they do? Hop back into line with their buddies. So now - we have 5 single riders who have cut infront of us and about 15 other people.

You could tell everyone was mad and everyone was starring at the group of cutters. But, no one did anything or said anything. No one bothered to tell a cast member.

To top it off, when they did get to the front of the line for their turn, they tried to convince the CM to let them ride together. Typical!

I still get steamed up when I think about it - - - wishing that we would have a least alerted the CM.

 

[dvczerfs]

I have no problem with a parent and small child re-joining their group after a bathroom break, or even an adult that had to leave for some reason...especially if they were already in line in front of us. When groups of people are trying to cut the line, using the excuse that they got separated from their group, I get annoyed. We waited, so can you! We've let people go ahead of us when we've gotten separeted, so can you!

What I really have a problem with is what happened to us on our last trip to WDW. We were in line for a ride, and a small child of the family that was in line behind us managed to get around us. I understand, kids get excited! However, if it was my kid, I would have called them back to our family. This family handled it a bit differently, however. The father sqeezed past us to join the kid. Then the second kid went around us. The mother kept trying to pass us as well, but couldn't find a spot to do so (she seemed a bit embarassed). The second (older) kid turned around to me and said "My mom needs to get past you." I responded "Does your mom know how to say Excuse Me?" The kid just looked at me and kept going. When we were at the ride, the mother finally said "Excuse me!" I let her pass, but I was so annoyed! Not because the kid passed us in the first place, but because I think that was their tactic to cut in line! What a great thing to teach your children!!! The only justification was that they couldn't do it to anyone else, since the mother was stuck behind us.

ive seen that move, the haunt.mansion is a good spot for that. and after the ride, they are standing in the exit door deciding were there going next while you try to get by. im with you on that one!

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Well, I don't think that's being discussed here. My understanding is that when we're talking about folks who are not letting others pass, it is almost surely because they didn't see the guest "leave the line". Remember before I said my tolerance level is for up to age 10, but that's only in terms of granting benefit-of-doubt: If I see anyone pass me leaving the queue, I wouldn't think twice about letting them pass getting back into the queue, regardless of their age -- even if they're a bunch of teenagers -- and I'd go so far as to help them get past someone nearby who questions them, confirming that I did seem the leave the queue earlier, and that they're not actually line jumping.

That's a good point. If people didn't SEE the person get out of line or queue area and then they re-enter. Still, I'm like you though, I'd let them pass because I assume they're re-joining their group for a valid reason, not cutting. Part of me hates confrontation but the other part is trying to be trusting of the reason why. I really feel that it's not worth getting upset over though I know people will disagree with me. Haven't you been in that line before at an amusement park (be it Disney or elsewhere) where 2 people are arguing up a storm because one claims they're cutting in line and so forth? I have and it's not fun and is uncomfortable for others. There was even a news article here on wdwinfo concering 2 women fighting in line over cutting/pushing at the teacups. I just don't feel it's worth it but of course that's just me! Anyhow, good points.

 

[moepanz]

The worst encounter I had with "line cutting" in WDW (if I can call it that) was when DS5 and I were there this past May at rope drop. (our 1st time) We were both and got there before anyone else. We were right up aginst the rope. Until this adult couple I am pretty sure from France just shoved right thru the crowd behind us and parked themselves in our spot. It was bad I was annoyed but I made a few comments not a fresh as I would have been if my 5yr old was not with me but even he ask why thoes people did that!!!!

 

[dvczerfs]

for us, we go for 11-12 days every year. i can tell when day 10-11 is upon us. you can handle it for so long, the pushin and the oh, excuse me but i belong up there, its getting time to go home. usualy the first couple of day a marching band could cut in front of me and id say go ahead. after 10 or so days, wait in line like eveyone else.

 

[Married_Him_@_Disney]

"Sure you can pass. . . let me just snap a quick photo and you can be on your way!"

I think we should start a new thread for line cutters! Snap their photo as they pass. . . and post their cutting mug on the dis boards!

Loving my own idea!!!

 

[dvczerfs]

"Sure you can pass. . . let me just snap a quick photo and you can be on your way!"

I think we should start a new thread for line cutters! Snap their photo as they pass. . . and post their cutting mug on the dis boards!

Loving my own idea!!!

tattoo there forheads!!! "SLIPPERS" (IM JUST KIDDING!!!)

 

[MushyMushy]

for us, we go for 11-12 days every year. i can tell when day 10-11 is upon us. you can handle it for so long, the pushin and the oh, excuse me but i belong up there, its getting time to go home. usualy the first couple of day a marching band could cut in front of me and id say go ahead. after 10 or so days, wait in line like eveyone else.

Good point! We usually go for a longer amount of time too and boy it does tend to wear on your nerves.

 

[Stinky_Pete]

Wow, some of you all really are sticklers. I for one know that if my 5 year old has to go potty while we're in line, I have no qualms taking her and then going back up to our spot with my DH and other 2 daughters.

Not meaning to pick on you specifically, but I was reading through the posts and have seen this kind of thing many times.

No one has said there was anything wrong with a parent leaving a line to take a child to the restroom except for one poster referring to one poster in a thread a year ago (I think). Why do people keep bringing this up and getting all defensive? No one is disputing this is a legitimate reason.

But as I said before - I have never had a parent and small child try to pass me. I've had many groups of teens and tweens as well as the groups in family reunion t-shirts. As someone else said, I seriously doubt they all just *had* to go to the restroom at the same time.

 

[dvczerfs]

Not meaning to pick on you specifically, but I was reading through the posts and have seen this kind of thing many time.

No one has said there was anything wrong with a parent leaving a line to take a child to the restroom except for one poster referring to one poster in a thread a year ago (I think). Why do people keep bringing this up and defending it? No is is disputing this is a legitimate reason.

But as I said before - I have never had a parent and small child try to pass me. I've had many groups of teens and tweens as well as the groups in family reunion t-shirts. As someone else said, I seriously doubt they all just *had* to go to the restroom at the same time.

good point! i call them phantom peers, you never see them trying to leave but always see them pushing back in. thank god i sell plumbing fixtures for a living! i bet you all use my products, no matter how much gas cost, you will have to go sooner or later!! i thank you!

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Not meaning to pick on you specifically, but I was reading through the posts and have seen this kind of thing many time.

No one has said there was anything wrong with a parent leaving a line to take a child to the restroom except for one poster referring to one poster in a thread a year ago (I think). Why do people keep bringing this up and defending it? No is is disputing this is a legitimate reason.

But as I said before - I have never had a parent and small child try to pass me. I've had many groups of teens and tweens as well as the groups in family reunion t-shirts. As someone else said, I seriously doubt they all just *had* to go to the restroom at the same time.

No worries about picking on me!

I did read several posts that said they don't allow passing them in line for any reason, period. That's a bit extreme to me because as I've said before, you don't know the reason why someone is leaving the line. There are tons of examples that everyone can quote I'm sure...the 5 year old who NEEDS to pee NOW (my DD included!), maybe the 10 year old who drank 21 oz. of lemonade for lunch, the older lady who may be diabetic and goes to the bathroom many times and so and so on and so on. I just want to say there are plausible reasons to leave the line. I know people will disagree with me and that is fine, doesn't ruffle me in the least.

Bicker made several good points a couple of posts back. Anyhow, we all feel we are correct so what are ya gonna do? That being said, I can't wait till we go back to Disney this November!

 

[dvczerfs]

we have a dd15. she has been to wdw since 9 months old. we never had the pee problem, i understand some people have problems but, how did you get to wdw. if you fly, you have to be able to hold it for 15-20 min till they load the plane and take off,just cant get up. if you drive, other than braking the law in most states, you have to find an exit, find a business and go in. or find a rest stop (if not sitting in traffic) which all takes time. we always told our dd when she was young and if we had to wait in line, you better go now, if you snooze you lose. and now, i seem to stop at the rest. more than anyone in our party. i think the family has a picture of me coming out of every restroom in wdw with the caption "heres were we spend our vacation, waiting for dad" (kids!)

 

[BamaFan121s]

No one has said there was anything wrong with a parent leaving a line to take a child to the restroom except for one poster referring to one poster in a thread a year ago (I think). Why do people keep bringing this up and getting all defensive? No one is disputing this is a legitimate reason.

Thank you...I was wondering that myself!

 

[dvczerfs]

No worries about picking on me!

I did read several posts that said they don't allow passing them in line for any reason, period. That's a bit extreme to me because as I've said before, you don't know the reason why someone is leaving the line. There are tons of examples that everyone can quote I'm sure...the 5 year old who NEEDS to pee NOW (my DD included!), maybe the 10 year old who drank 21 oz. of lemonade for lunch, the older lady who may be diabetic and goes to the bathroom many times and so and so on and so on. I just want to say there are plausible reasons to leave the line. I know people will disagree with me and that is fine, doesn't ruffle me in the least.

Bicker made several good points a couple of posts back. Anyhow, we all feel we are correct so what are ya gonna do? That being said, I can't wait till we go back to Disney this November!

whats funny is eveyone agrees why your leaving, the problem seams to be when you come back.

 

[dvczerfs]

whats funny is eveyone agrees why your leaving, the problem seams to be when you come back.

SORRY THREEPRETTY, i hit the wrong button, i wasnt directing that at you. sorry again.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

SORRY THREEPRETTY, i hit the wrong button, i wasnt directing that at you. sorry again.

 

[MushyMushy]

Not meaning to pick on you specifically, but I was reading through the posts and have seen this kind of thing many times.

No one has said there was anything wrong with a parent leaving a line to take a child to the restroom except for one poster referring to one poster in a thread a year ago (I think). Why do people keep bringing this up and getting all defensive? No one is disputing this is a legitimate reason.

But as I said before - I have never had a parent and small child try to pass me. I've had many groups of teens and tweens as well as the groups in family reunion t-shirts. As someone else said, I seriously doubt they all just *had* to go to the restroom at the same time.

I said it. I'll be that much of a stickler and say for the record that I don't think you should leave the line for any reason and expect to come back.

I wouldn't try to prevent anyone from doing it or block their way, but I don't think it's right to do and I've never done it myself.

 

[4forWDW]

My DD (10) and DS (7) must encounter "cuttin' in front of" a lot at their school. On one of our last trips, I remember before going into the auditorium at Philharmagic a family pushing in front of us to go through the doors. You know how large the side of the auditorium is - like you have to push through in front of 4 people or you won't get a seat - really
My DS says very loudly "Hey Mom - they're cuttin'!!!" I'm not sure if the family heard him or not. I know I thought I would die laughing

 

[dvczerfs]

My DD (10) and DS (7) must encounter "cuttin' in front of" a lot at their school. On one of our last trips, I remember before going into the auditorium at Philharmagic a family pushing in front of us to go through the doors. You know how large the side of the auditorium is - like you have to push through in front of 4 people or you won't get a seat - really
My DS says very loudly "Hey Mom - they're cuttin'!!!" I'm not sure if the family heard him or not. I know I thought I would die laughing

did they stop in the middle of a row?