Line jumpers, or "I'm just catching up to my party"

[4forWDW]

I don't remember - but I bet they probably did!

 

[wishspirit]

I'm going to get my portuguese friend to teach me a few choice sayings incase i hit the braizilians again!

'Be quiet' might be a good one

'Oww, stop banging into me' might be good too!

'HOW DARE YOU PUSH INFRONT OF ME!' is my key phrase!

 

[dvczerfs]

I don't remember - but I bet they probably did!

thats generaly what they do. knock you over trying to be the first in the door to find out you have to move all the way over (you can tell there not diser or they would know that) than ignore the please from the cm to move all the way in. like i said before, there must be a pole on the end blocking there view.

 

[dvczerfs]

I'm going to get my portuguese friend to teach me a few choice sayings incase i hit the braizilians again!

'Be quiet' might be a good one

'Oww, stop banging into me' might be good too!

'HOW DARE YOU PUSH INFRONT OF ME!' is my key phrase!

most understand, i know they can say, ooch, you stepped on my toe.

 

[1hero2princesses]

Wow....I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I will say if we have a long wait in the heat and my potty training 3 year has to pee I will take her to the bathroom, and yes I will proably if possible attempt to rejoin my family. I understand a few people do seem to find that somehow an unacceptable thing. I am glad to see most people seem to find it reasonable. I guess I am just a little confused on why this is such a huge issue? We are not talking about thousands of people that doing this. I certainly hope not to do it, but I expect with 3 very small children (one in diapers) I expect it may happen. Yes, every once in awhile a big group may cut ahead and that is annoying... but as a number of people have said, it is a vacation, it should be fun, it is a ride and so if I get on it two or even four people later it is not the end of the world. Honestly I would be a little afraid if someone aggressively tried to block my path as I carefully tried to get back in line while saying I am sorry. I just don't think my 5 year old and 3 year old should necessarily have to wait for a ride twice just because the baby has a dirty diaper. To those that think that is wrong I guess we are just different. If you want to avoid me I will be there in September for my first vacation in 8 years. I will be the harried looking 40 year old with 3 small kids.

 

[bicker]

I think we are talking about thousands of people doing this, both the legit (IMHO) parent and young child rest room run, and the exploitive or abusive teenagers escapade.

 

[inkkognito]

"Sure you can pass. . . let me just snap a quick photo and you can be on your way!"

I think we should start a new thread for line cutters! Snap their photo as they pass. . . and post their cutting mug on the dis boards!

Loving my own idea!!!

Okay, okay, I'm loving this, but I think it merits its own website.

Ever see this one? http://icanhascheezburger.com/

Instead of cats, start a new one with those people called "I can has line cutz?" Just imagine the potential for captions, hee hee.

 

[wishspirit]

I think we are talking about thousands of people doing this, both the legit (IMHO) parent and young child rest room run, and the exploitive or abusive teenagers escapade.

Not all teenagers are pushing in by the way, just to mention, some of us have to pop to the loo too!!

Just to shove that in!

Only 6 months left of teenhood!

 

[Subrbnmommy]

I said it. I'll be that much of a stickler and say for the record that I don't think you should leave the line for any reason and expect to come back.

I wouldn't try to prevent anyone from doing it or block their way, but I don't think it's right to do and I've never done it myself.

I agree with you. We've walked out of lines a few times because of either DD or DNephews needing to go to the restroom. Sometimes the whole party left the line and sometimes the party would split up and meet up after the ride.

But I would never stop a parent with a small child from reentering a line to join up with the rest of the family.

But, we have blocked Adult/Teen line cutters in the past.

 

[wishspirit]

I agree with you. We've walked out of lines a few times because of either DD or DNephews needing to go to the restroom. Sometimes the whole party left the line and sometimes the party would split up and meet up after the ride.

But I would never stop a parent with a small child from reentering a line to join up with the rest of the family.

But, we have blocked Adult/Teen line cutters in the past.

What about those who sometimes have to go to the bathroom NOW, and quite freqently? What should they do?

Cause if i gave up on ever ride i dodged out of, i would of missed a heck of a lot!

Some people need that benefit of doubt, just let that lone teen or adult through!

 

[Subrbnmommy]

Obviously if it's a lone teenager or a lone adult rejoining the group we let them through. If it's an aggressive, obnoxious pack we don't.

 

[dvczerfs]

thats why they call them wait lines. not hold my spot,reserved standing room lines. i couldnt realy care,if it means that much to you, you can go infront of me, ill be back next year but wow,how to some people function with out a toilet w/in 10 feet of them? how do you ever leave home? drive, fly.you mean all of a sudden,out of the blue, you got to go! no warning. what happens sitting on the runway ready to take off? what happens if you pass the exist and the next one is 15 miles up the road?

 

[sand2270]

I don't want to get flamed, but I guess as a single parent I can't take advantage of leaving the line if my DD has to go to the bathroom. If we leave I know we lose our place, so I plan accordingly. I am not saying that emergencies don't happen and I know little kids will say they don't have to go until you are in line, or the food arrives, etc. But I also do everything I can to avoid that situation and would expect us to get at the back of the line if if we had to leave it. I don't have the convenience of another parent along and so I have had to adapt.

Let me say also I have no problems if a parent has to take the child to the bathroom and would offer to hold their place (though I wouldn't feel comfortable asking, nice people have offered to do this which is appreciated).

i do appreciate when people in the Disney parks are kind and offer to save a spot, to me that is a nice bit of Disney magic...people helping each other and not thinking about me me me...what a concept. But it is also frustrating when adults, older kids, or groups cut pass you. Our last trip I don't think we ever left a line but I was constantly asking "do you need to go the bathroom" so we didn't have to inconvenience others. It's unfortunate that many people are focused solely on themselves and getting where they need to go without any thought to the people around them.

 

[delmar411]

wow, I guess we (aka I) must have peeved off a lot of people last week. DH and the kids don't wait for me and by the time I get myself into the line there are normally a couple families between DH and myself. Most of the time I slip closer to them when there is a wide spot and eventually catch up to them or I cross the ropes (it wasn't that busy last week) or like at Dumbo I just tapped the person on the shoulder and ask to go by(I do make good use of my manners). Sometimes I have to get out of the main line to catch my DS who will take off on a whim. I'm not sitting out every ride because I didn't bring a length of rope to hog tie him for the lines.

And I know the trick in Test Track and Haunted Mansion about where the doors will open up and make full use of that knowledge. It's just a room so it's impossible to say we've cut in front of another person.

We haven't had the potty emergencies yet but if we do then I'll leave the line to take my DD (the only one w/ true potty emergencies) and I'd expect to re-join my family. I don't mind holding a mom or dad's spot so they can take their child to restroom and I'd like to think the same basic courtesy would be extended if I was ever in that position.

I am confused as to how "legitimate" line jumpers are making your wait longer. If they were there already you'd be waiting behind them and your wait would be the same. Or is this just taking advantage of another's bad fortune when their child has to use the potty or mom wasn't fast enough to get in line with the family or the baby has gone and tore off again?

I agree completely about blocking out groups of ppl or not allowing place holders in line but to flat out say no one can get past you or that you should force your whole family to leave the line every time someone needs to step out of place, well that doesn't seem very nice IMO. Karma works both ways.

 

[thomas998]

I'm going to get my portuguese friend to teach me a few choice sayings incase i hit the braizilians again!

'Be quiet' might be a good one

'Oww, stop banging into me' might be good too!

'HOW DARE YOU PUSH INFRONT OF ME!' is my key phrase!

The key phrase is "vie tah mono cooh" (and no that isn't the way its spelled, that's the way you would say it)... just be ready for a fight.... but then if you're going to complain about things in a line where people are hot and tired that's the risk you are going to take.

 

[dvczerfs]

wow, I guess we (aka I) must have peeved off a lot of people last week. DH and the kids don't wait for me and by the time I get myself into the line there are normally a couple families between DH and myself. Most of the time I slip closer to them when there is a wide spot and eventually catch up to them or I cross the ropes (it wasn't that busy last week) or like at Dumbo I just tapped the person on the shoulder and ask to go by(I do make good use of my manners). Sometimes I have to get out of the main line to catch my DS who will take off on a whim. I'm not sitting out every ride because I didn't bring a length of rope to hog tie him for the lines.

And I know the trick in Test Track and Haunted Mansion about where the doors will open up and make full use of that knowledge. It's just a room so it's impossible to say we've cut in front of another person.

We haven't had the potty emergencies yet but if we do then I'll leave the line to take my DD (the only one w/ true potty emergencies) and I'd expect to re-join my family. I don't mind holding a mom or dad's spot so they can take their child to restroom and I'd like to think the same basic courtesy would be extended if I was ever in that position.

I am confused as to how "legitimate" line jumpers are making your wait longer. If they were there already you'd be waiting behind them and your wait would be the same. Or is this just taking advantage of another's bad fortune when their child has to use the potty or mom wasn't fast enough to get in line with the family or the baby has gone and tore off again?

I agree completely about blocking out groups of ppl or not allowing place holders in line but to flat out say no one can get past you or that you should force your whole family to leave the line every time someone needs to step out of place, well that doesn't seem very nice IMO. Karma works both ways.

 

[wishspirit]

thats why they call them wait lines. not hold my spot,reserved standing room lines. i couldnt realy care,if it means that much to you, you can go infront of me, ill be back next year but wow,how to some people function with out a toilet w/in 10 feet of them? how do you ever leave home? drive, fly.you mean all of a sudden,out of the blue, you got to go! no warning. what happens sitting on the runway ready to take off? what happens if you pass the exist and the next one is 15 miles up the road?

Its hard, thats for certain! You can prepare up to a point, but sometimes you got to go. I have to keep spare pairs of undies etc on planes just for a case such as that, and my sister too! I don't like carrying them in Disney though, cause imagine bag check!!!

I usually have a 5-10 minute 'warning', i have had to 'hold' longer but it was one of the most uncomfortable experiences of my life!!!! I dont see the problem if i quickly jump out the queue and sprint (yes i mean sprint!) to the bathroom, and then jog back!

Its ok driving in the UK, cause its never too long till the next turn off. The distances aren't as big as they are in the states. But it can limit lives a lot!

I would rather get out of the queue than have to go through that trauma to be honest! Since i know Disney like the back of my hand, i always know where a bathroom is, and i will say i have used a handicapt stall once (real emergency!). Cause if i have an 'accident' its a LONG haul back to the hotel!

Sorry if that grossed anyone out, but it isn't easy to live with. I just feel sorry for my sis, cause shes a lot worse and had it a lot longer than i have.

 

[StitchandPooh'sMom]

wow, I guess we (aka I) must have peeved off a lot of people last week. DH and the kids don't wait for me and by the time I get myself into the line there are normally a couple families between DH and myself. Most of the time I slip closer to them when there is a wide spot and eventually catch up to them or I cross the ropes (it wasn't that busy last week) or like at Dumbo I just tapped the person on the shoulder and ask to go by(I do make good use of my manners). Sometimes I have to get out of the main line to catch my DS who will take off on a whim. I'm not sitting out every ride because I didn't bring a length of rope to hog tie him for the lines.

My DD5 walks more slowly than DD8 and DH. They wait for us before getting in line. They don't act as placeholders until we catch up.

I don't know how old your DS is, but you might consider one of those animal backpacks with a strap you can hold. That would prevent him from running out of line, although I doubt people would be upset with you chasing after a child if you are already in the line. The point seems to be to all enter together and not send a person (even a child) ahead to stake out a spot in line, then say you have to catch up because he ran off.

If your DS is too old for a backpack, he is probably old enough not to run off if you tell him not to. Either that, or have your DH be responsible for DS since you feel comfortable with him getting in line with the kids while you catch up. Maybe your DH can prevent him escaping.

 

[delmar411]

My DD5 walks more slowly than DD8 and DH. They wait for us before getting in line. They don't act as placeholders until we catch up.

I don't know how old your DS is, but you might consider one of those animal backpacks with a strap you can hold. That would prevent him from running out of line, although I doubt people would be upset with you chasing after a child if you are already in the line. The point seems to be to all enter together and not send a person (even a child) ahead to stake out a spot in line, then say you have to catch up because he ran off.

If your DS is too old for a backpack, he is probably old enough not to run off if you tell him not to. Either that, or have your DH be responsible for DS since you feel comfortable with him getting in line with the kids while you catch up. Maybe your DH can prevent him escaping.

We do use a backpack but those animal ones are wicked hot(we did eventually have to use it though) and I couldn't find my basic harness for full time use on the trip. Not that I feel the need to defend my child but he did really great for a 2yr old waiting in some long lines and had a lot of pent up energy from having to be the only one to wait it out for a lot of height restricted rides. Not a single person even gave us a mean look or a grumpy face the entire week. I'm really thankful we encountered lots of really happy friendly folks there this past week. We had lots of line jumpers meeting up with their families and a few really random line cutters that just sort of wandered on in and past people. The random ones were just so out there that it was more funny than anything and seriously not worth effort of getting upset over and were in the fast pass line at that.

I just don't see the logic behind the argument of manners, courtesy and extra time waiting. Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinions though. And I've never had to deal with the group of teenagers or foreign tour groups so my opinion is based off the everyday average line jumper.

As for catching up with DH and the kids, seriously I was like 5 secs behind them. I wasn't glued to their butts so people get in front of me and unless it's a dark ride or waiting area, it wasn't worth the effort to get all freaky about it, I'd just go around the people that went in front of me.

 

[Carnator]

I don't have a problem with the parents and children catching up with the rest of the family, or the 1, 2, or 3 that have to catch up with their friends.

When it gets to be more than that I have a problem. i will not let them pass.

My favorite thing to do is to copy a version of the Rodney Dangerfield movie "Back to School". When the bad guy wants to cut in line to sign up for classes, and Robert DowneyJr character tells him in order to cut he has to get a note from each and everyone he cuts in front of.

I usually modify it by just turning around and asking everyone for a show of hands to allow the cutters to cut or go back to the end of the line. Since we are in the USA, democracy rules. I think I have done it 5 or 6 times and eveytime the cutters have been voted to the back of the line.