Line Cutters!!!

[justhat]

What I now consider to be the worst form of line cutting is the handicapped line. I'm not talking about true handicapped people because, yes, I totally agree they should get on rides and into attractions first. What I'm referring to are the people who just rent a wheelchair at a park so that they can go to the wheelchair entrances and bypass the lines. On our last 2 trips (last week and NYE) we saw so many perfectly normal people being pushed in a wheelchair when it was convenient for them, like walking around fine at other times. Odds are if you don't have your own wheelchair you do not need one at WDW, exceptions being the elderly, broken bones, sprains, etc.

Since there is now fastpass for many attractions, I think these non-handicapped people should be required to get a fastpass and return to the ride at their fastpass time like the rest of us do rather than ruining it for the truly handicapped people. We travelled with a friend and their disabled son who is is restricted to a wheelchair on a recent trip and they often had to wait in many lines behind people who clearly had no disability. Often times, we saw groups of teenagers rent a wheelchair for the day and they would take turns riding in it. Obviously none of them were disabled since they were able to switch riding/pushing, but they were willing to pay the $5 to get to the front of the lines.

Additionally, we akso saw many morbidly obese people rent those electric scooters and proceed to the front of the line. At breakfast at 1900 Park Fare on 1/4, we actually saw a woman transfer from her chair at her table to her electric scooter, drive to the buffet, drive her food back to her table and get back into her chair to eat her meal. I can understand that very obese people have difficulties walking for extended periods of time, however, I do not feel that they should get to cut the line simply because they are overweight. They should get a fastpass and come back at their time, which would require minimal walking, and allow truly disabled people to use the priviledge of getting on rides without waiting in line.

The same is true for buses, as many times the lines to leave a park were so long it took more than 6 buses to get people back (we left on the 6th bus and there was still a big line behind us). We saw some people grab wheelchairs on their way out of the parks so that they'd be loaded onto a bus as soon as they got there and they could skip the line and not wait more than 30 minutes to get on bus. A family behind us one night had their grandparents with them, one of whom was in a wheelchair, and they waited the almost 40 minutes with us, but they sent the grandparents off on the first bus. This I thought was very nice and unusual, that they let the elderly go, but unlike many others they did not try to send hteir whole family of 12 to the front to get on the first bus with the grandparents. They were the exception, however, and many times I had to wait for another bus because a 'non-handicapped' person would bring their entire family to the front of the line and take up about 15 seats.

My mother came on our NYE trip and though she has cancer she did not rent a wheelchair and waited in line like everyone else. Yes, she got tired, but we took breaks as needed. We even suggested she get a wheelchair so she wouldn't have to walk so much but she did not want to take advantage of this since she is able to walk like other people. We also saw many older people walking and waiting in line, though I'm sure they tire faster than someone my age, while people who were my age were getting free rides around the park and on rides with no wait. I can imagine that if this priviledge keeps getting abused then Disney will do away with it and those who really need it will be without the privledge as well.

 

[JJS2K3]

So how do you tell if someone is 'perfectly normal'?

There are some folks with conditions that worsen as the day goes on or with the weather, temps, etc. Some of them are relatively young without outward appearances of their condition. So seeing someone at one point walking and then later riding isn't all that unusual and doesn't necessarily mean they're just line jumping.

Of course, there are those I'm sure do use this tactic but I'm not sure how anyone can tell?

 

[justhat]

You can easily tell when you see a group of teenagers all taking turns riding in the wheelchair. Additionally, if the person truly has a condition that warrants a wheelchair, odds are they would have their own, as our friend's child did and many people in WDW do. Those who show up and see that wheelchairs get a priority entrance, then proceed to rent oen do not have conditions that worsen as the day goes on. And I've seen many people who could clearly use a wheelchair, such as people with crutches or the elderly, yet they walk like everyone else and do not try to take advantage of this policy. And if someone does have a condition that worsens with weather and they need a wheelchair, then that's fine, but let them get a fastpass and come back to the ride during their designated time. Why should they just get to cut the line if they're fine most of the day?

 

[JJS2K3]

I guess it's just more important to me that people who have special needs get a little special treatment than it is for me to go on a ride a little faster. And the fact that some people abuse it shouldn't stigmatize the people that need it.

I know someone with rheumatoid arthritis. Some days she feels OK, some days not. Sometimes in the morning she feels good and worsens as the day goes on; sometimes it's just the opposite. Just no telling. She used to be a nurse, a good one too. If you asked her if she'd rather be 'normal' or be able to cut lines in amusement parks, well , I think you know the answer. She's 46, not 'obese' and looks 'normal' - quite good looking in fact (I may be a little biased since I'm married to her ) And she doesn't own a wheel chair. Not yet, fortunately.

We went to NY a few months back to see family. She was having a bad day so instead of walking from one end of DFW to the other we got a chair at one of the gates on the way. When it came time to board, people actually gave us dirty looks when we started to pre-board. I'm sure they were thinking "what's her problem, she looks normal." Maybe some of them even saw her walking earlier.

Are there people like those 'teenagers' who abuse the system? Sure. But I don't let those people get in the way of being kind and courteous to others who may not be as fortunate as I am.
If it means I wait an extra 5-10 minutes to ride Splash Mountain that seems like a pretty good trade off to me.

 

[kdibattista]

I give them "the look" and most of the time they back up and cower away... other times I'll stand there and block the way to make them say "excuse me" but... they never do?? I guess I can be kind of intimidating

 

[Metallicat]

I remember once we were standing in line to ride something when the man in front of us (DD and myself) turned around and ask me if I minded letting "his party" catch up with him and go ahead of us. My response was why don't you let us in front of YOU then you will all be together?? he looked kind of dumbfounded and said ugh, o.k. why didn't I think of that?
I have also used the contagious sickness excuse to clear out unwanted people who get a little too close to my personal space when there is plenty of room around elsewhere. it works every time. Linda

 

[lisajl]

We only had one line cutter when we were there in Dec.
We thought he was with a bunch of people way ahead of us. Well...there was no one looking for him when he cut in front of us.
We spoke loudly about rude people, etc.
He was embarassed.

I think the worst thing I heard about is when we were at Fantasmic. There was a couple from Dayton behind us.
They had their daughter and young son in line for Lilo and Stitch.
She said they were waiting patiently when someone ran up over their son to see Lilo and Stitch.
Unbelievable that an adult would run over a 2 year old to see a character!
He was okay, mom was very upset!
She said they gave her son a toy to calm him down. It took quite a bit to calm mom down. She said they told her they would take her sons toy back if she did not quit complaining.
I don't know...I think she had the right to complain about that man.

 

[JudithM]

I have no problem with the guests who want to catch up with their group for the various reasons cited here - rest room, snack, park the stroller or wheelchair or scooter, etc.

As for not moving to the end of a row ... at 3D attractions like Honey or Muppets I need to sit in the middle of the row usually more towards the back of the theater. For some reason with my prescription for eye glasses I have to look at the screen straight on. So there are reasons why some guests might stop in the middle of a row.

Now as for handicpped lines, guests, etc. ... I take personal exception to the comments made by Justthat. I rent a scooter/ECV when I am at WDW. I do not use one at home, so I don't have my own to bring on vacation. I have a knee condition & as per my doctor I am not supposed to do stairs, knee bends, etc. I do not have a visible handicap, & some days are better than others. To you, I probably look "perfectly normal." Some days I park the ECV & walk around in a small area. I rarely take the scooter into a restaurant - I can walk from teh entrance to the table. This does not mean I do not have a legitimate need for the scooter.

Also just because a person may appear to be "normal", they too may have a handicap where a wheelchair or scooter might help.

Having rented & used a scooter now for the last 2-3 years at WDW, I can assure you many people who appear to be "perfectly normal" are not. I would gladly swap knees with someone with "good" knees.

 

[JudithM]

One more thing while I am thinking of it ... I frequently sit on the end at a show so I can stretch my legs out. Again bending my knees aggravates teh condition, so if I am on the end & you have to walk over me, please do not step on my feet.

 

[SueM in MN]

What I now consider to be the worst form of line cutting is the handicapped line. I'm not talking about true handicapped people because, yes, I totally agree they should get on rides and into attractions first. What I'm referring to are the people who just rent a wheelchair at a park so that they can go to the wheelchair entrances and bypass the lines.

"True handicapped people" don't get onto lines or attractions first. All of the lines at AK, most of the lines at MGM and a majority of the lines at Epcot and MK are "Mainstream Access" which means that wheelchair or ecv users wait in the same line with everyone else. MK has the least Mainstream lines because it is the oldest park and some of the lines can't be converted because of how the rides load. At some rides (like HM) wheelchair users have to bypass part of the ride in order to board. At HM, we miss the stretching room sequence entirely.
Sometimes, wheelchair users end up waiting considerably longer than peoploe without disabilities. Our personal record is a 40 minute wait for the Safari, when the people in the regular line had a posted wait of 10 minutes and they were just walking right one. The Guidebook for Guests with Disabilities suggests guests traveling in wheelchairs use fastpass if they want to avoid long waits.

On our last 2 trips (last week and NYE) we saw so many perfectly normal people being pushed in a wheelchair when it was convenient for them, like walking around fine at other times.

As JJS2K3 mentioned, it's not possible to tell from looking whether someone has a dissability or not. A friend of mine took her 2 kids to WDW when the oldest was about 8 to 10 and the youngest 6-8. They had a rented wheelchair, which both kids used at times. The oldest boy didn't want to ride in it because he thought people were staring at him. Sometimes one or both boys ran ahead of their parents, who were pushing an empty wheelchair. Anyone looking at them would see 2 healthy looking young boys. The oldest boy had a non-repairable heart defect and he died in his sleep at age 18, so appearances can be deceiving.
We've heard people comment that they think we are "cheating" because they see DD sitting on a bench next to her wheelchair (with her legs crossed and swinging her legs). I've got news for them, DD can't even stand up by herself (heck, she can't even cross her legs by herself), but she does sometimes like to be out of her wheelchair for a change. And when she was 4 and my other DD was 7, we sometimes let older DD ride in the wheelchair while we carried our smaller DD because we didn't want to push a stroller and a wheelchair.
I also know of groups of teens where one does have a health condition that they legitimately rented a wheelchair for. Teens being teens, the one who is supposed to be riding in the wheelchair might not be in it ata ny given time, but that doesn't mean that all groups of teens with a wheelchair are"cheating".

Odds are if you don't have your own wheelchair you do not need one at WDW, exceptions being the elderly, broken bones, sprains, etc.

Many people can get along on their day to day life without a wheelchair, but they do a lot more walking at WDW than they do at home. Sort of similar to the people who say, "My child doesn't use a stroller at home, but at WDW there is so much walking and heat that we always rent one for him."

We saw some people grab wheelchairs on their way out of the parks so that they'd be loaded onto a bus as soon as they got there and they could skip the line and not wait more than 30 minutes to get on bus.

The wheelchairs rented in the WDW parks are not allowed to leave the parks. Even when switching from park to park during the day, someone who rented a wheelchair in the first park has to go to the rental area to get another in the second park. So, if this happens, it would not be often.
If you think people with disabilities get too much special treatment, look for us in March. We'll likely be waiting in line behind you (unless we are parked in the shade while DD sleeps after having a seizure).

 

[DMRick]

What I'm referring to are the people who just rent a wheelchair at a park so that they can go to the wheelchair entrances and bypass the lines.

Obviously you've never had to use a wheelchair at Disney. No one in their right mind (except maybe some teens folling around..but I've never seen that) would purposely use one. It's just so much fun getting around crowds, being shoved..and oh yes, the wonderful dirty looks from others, because you "look" normal. Oh, and yes, I would drag one all the way from NY to prove I needed it, just so I could go to the front of the line. Oh, and by the way, only places that aren't wide enough for a wheelchair, or doesn't have fastpast lets you go ahead. And sometimes you actually miss part of the ride, since you don't go on on the begining. My (at the time) 8 year old grandson was in tears from the remarks the "holier than thou" people who just knew there was nothing wrong with me whispered our way. You know, I even got remarks from people when I got out of the chair to use the bathroom. We liked the note on our car best, making a remark about using handicap parking. Yes, those people are really teaching their children compassion.

We even suggested she get a wheelchair so she wouldn't have to walk so much but she did not want to take advantage of this since she is able to walk like other people

You suggested your mom take a wheelchair, so you must have thought she needed one. If she decided she could walk like others, and it didn't bother her, than good for her. Not everyone has that choice. But the answer would not be to put down others that may not have your mom's stamina.
I learned something going to Disney in a wheelchair. I learned great compassion..and I'd rather wait an extra 5 minutes for the person who needs (and that need is up to them) a wheelchair. I will offer to let them go ahead of me, I'll hold doors, and I'll be glad to help them at a buffet. Just please God, keep me healthy and able to walk, so I can continue to enjoy places, in spite of other people lacking the same compassion I learned. I hope you never have anyone in your family have a disease that doesn't "show", or gain weight, and have a walking or heart problem because of it.

 

[BrerMom]

Originally posted by kilee
The best was when we were waiting in line to see the princess's. There were two families together about 3 people ahead of us. The 2 men held their spots (this was the longest line), while the 2 women and 6 kids between them did the other 2 character rooms. Just when it was time to go in, they appear. That was rude.

I agree it's rude. I think some people think it's ok because one of the WDW planning books (the unofficial guide?) talks about the "Bubba" switch and what a great idea it is since it minimizes Bubba's time waiting in line. I don't have a problem with one little Bubba - he's just going to sit with his parent anyway - but six kids would annoy me.

I only remember doing something similar with my kids in a character line a couple of times. I don't think it was a big deal in our case because all three kids were in one picture and we didn't use autograph books.

 

[justhat]

I too know someone with rheumatoid arthritis, my cousin and she's only 10 years old. She's had it since she was 20 months old. She's going to WDW for the first time in April with her 8 year old brother who has a life-threatening kidney disorder, nephrotic syndrome. She's going with her dance team and they're going to perform a show in MK. Now since she's on a dance team you'd think she's perfectly normal, but who knows, she could have a bad day while at WDW and be too stiff to walk around all day. Same with her brother, if his kidneys shut down while they're in WDW and he becomes too weak to walk around. If either of them need a wheelchair, fine, let them use it. Same with another relative who has had 6 surgeries on his knees, yet they are still so bad that he has had to quit his job and find one where he can work from home. Some days he can't walk from one end of his house to the other, but he does not have a wheelchair at home. We also have a friend with MS who does not use a wheelchair, but has a cane, and often falls while walking in her own home--clearly she would need a wheelchair in WDW since it requires more walking. Though she does not drive herself to a buffet, she walks with the help of friends/family. Driving the short distance to a buffet seems excessive since it's not that far and if you really can't walk even that much then you would most likely have your own wheelchair.

I even think my mother was entitled to one since she had cancer and had a chemo treatment a few days before we left. Yet when my fiancé asked the AKL bus driver to wait for his handicapped MIL, when we got there the bus driver proceeded to tell us that she was not handicapped. My mother said she considers cancer to be a handicap since she is able to do much less now than on previous trips before the cancer, but the bus driver said that as long as she is able to 'act normally' she isn't really handicapped. I didn't agree with that, especially since we didn't ask for any special treatment, just for her to hold the bus since my mother couldn't run to make sure she didn't miss it.

With my 18 month old neice we were waiting in line to rent a stroller and a family behind us with a child about age 6 asked us how much stroller rentals cost. We told him and he laughed and said "nah, we'll just rent a wheelchair, after all, we have to pay either way but with the stroller we don't get to go to the front of any lines!" I was appalled by this comment, but realized plenty of people do it everyday for no reason other than to cheat on lines.

Yet did I mention anything about people who truly need a wheelchair!?! I'm pretty sure I said that people who are actually disabled should get that priviledge, that's who the policy was designed for. But should people who see this and rent a wheelchair just to get to the front of the line be allowed to do so? I don't think so. Renting the wheelchair is to help people with difficulty walking, you rent it so that you don't have to walk all day at the park, but I don't think it's an automatic fastpass to the front of the line. You can easily get a fastpass and sit in the wheelchair until it is your time to ride.

I do not have a problem at all waiting longer to get on a ride so that handicapped people can ride first. In fact I agree that they should, as I pointed out in my original post, but I do not think that everyone falls into this category. Also, for those of you who rent ECVs or wheelchairs, do you think it justifies you going to the front of every line, or do you think you could just as well get a fastpass for applicable attractions and just come back at your specified time? You'd have very little wait and in fact this is already the policy on some rides. We saw this in effect last week on Buzz Lightyear Space Ranger Spin. People in wheelchairs were asked to get a fastpass and then enter the fastpass line. When they got up to the boarding area they were asked to go through a special entrance to the exit and they boarded there. One family asked at the ride exit and fastpass entrance to get right on and they were told to get a fastpass and come back. Also, at AK, a CM told us when we were with our friend and their completely disabled child that when they build this park they made all of the ride queues wide enough to accomodate a wheelchair so that handicapped guests on most attractions there have to go through the regular line like everyone else. This was probably done as a result of the people who are not handicapped but just want to cheat, which is sad since plenty of people are and their special treament shouldn't be taken away.

 

[peachgirl]

Obviously you've never had to use a wheelchair at Disney. No one in their right mind (except maybe some teens folling around..but I've never seen that) would purposely use one.

I'm assuming the group I saw using a wheelchair found some advantage to using it, because they did and they weren't entitled to it.

There were 6 in the group. An older woman, a middle aged woman and three kids, probably in their early to mid-teens. They were standing outside Tony's Town Square Restaurant. The middle-aged woman was sitting in the wheelchair with a blanket over her lap. The only reason I noticed them was that as she proceeded to get out of the chair, the kids all started fighting over who got to use it "next".
They were quite loud, so you couldn't miss the conversation. After a little loud arguing and wrestling over the chair, the woman that appeared to be the "mother", yelled at the kids and said "Knock it off...if you keep acting like idiots we're going to end up losing the chair and there goes anybody getting to ride in it." There were plenty of comments as they rolled away about what a brilliant idea it was to get the chair and just how easy it was to get away with it.

It's too bad that there are people like this, it makes anyone who doesn't obviously need a wheelchair suspect.

 

[justhat]

Yes, actually, I do have many people in my family who are disabled and I used a wheelchair with them in WDW. My grandmother had open heart surgery and could not walk far at all. She rented a wheelchair in WDW, but she parked it along with the strollers and waited in line, as she died before fastpass came out. I have also been there with a friend who was brain damaged at birth and cannot talk, walk, or feed himself and is consequently confined to a wheelchair. His house even had to be specially designed to accomodate him. I have also been there with a severely developmentally delayed cousin who is now 11 and going back in May with her 3 younger brothers and sisters. She uses a special stroller at home but may rent a wheelchair in WDW in May. If her brother and sisters choose to ride in it with or without her, that's fine. Same with the previously mentions friends and relatives, I think they all have valid reasons to rent wheelchairs as the wheelchairs would alieviate the need to walk all day. As I have said many times I do NOT have any problems with disabled people (and yes, I also said people with temporary injuries such as broken bones or elderly people who tire easily) riding first. In fact I said that yes, they should ride first. So please read what I say before assuming I hate all disabled people, which is not true at all. I have mentioned many disabled people in my family and group of friends and I have many more. The 18 month old niece who was getting the stroller is also blind. I think these people and any other disabled people should get the special treatment they deserve, but does everyone in a wheelchair have special needs? No, they don't, sadly many just want the perks that go with the disability and they don't mind the inconvenience of pushing the chair around all day. For me, pushing the wheelchair was not on inconvenience, I didn't notice people glaring, or maybe I didn't care. I have only ever noticed people staring at my blind niece or disabled friend, not at my old grandmother. To me it seems like people are more apt to stare at some sort of abnormality, not older people. So once again, I think disabled people should get to do whatever they want, however my post was about people who fake an illness to cut the lines, which does happen regularly, whether or not you believe it.

 

[Pooh Girl 71]

Originally posted by justhat
What I now consider to be the worst form of line cutting is the handicapped line. I'm not talking about true handicapped people because, yes, I totally agree they should get on rides and into attractions first. What I'm referring to are the people who just rent a wheelchair at a park so that they can go to the wheelchair entrances and bypass the lines. On our last 2 trips (last week and NYE) we saw so many perfectly normal people being pushed in a wheelchair when it was convenient for them, like walking around fine at other times. Odds are if you don't have your own wheelchair you do not need one at WDW, exceptions being the elderly, broken bones, sprains, etc.

Since there is now fastpass for many attractions, I think these non-handicapped people should be required to get a fastpass and return to the ride at their fastpass time like the rest of us do rather than ruining it for the truly handicapped people. We travelled with a friend and their disabled son who is is restricted to a wheelchair on a recent trip and they often had to wait in many lines behind people who clearly had no disability. Often times, we saw groups of teenagers rent a wheelchair for the day and they would take turns riding in it. Obviously none of them were disabled since they were able to switch riding/pushing, but they were willing to pay the $5 to get to the front of the lines.

Additionally, we akso saw many morbidly obese people rent those electric scooters and proceed to the front of the line. At breakfast at 1900 Park Fare on 1/4, we actually saw a woman transfer from her chair at her table to her electric scooter, drive to the buffet, drive her food back to her table and get back into her chair to eat her meal. I can understand that very obese people have difficulties walking for extended periods of time, however, I do not feel that they should get to cut the line simply because they are overweight. They should get a fastpass and come back at their time, which would require minimal walking, and allow truly disabled people to use the priviledge of getting on rides without waiting in line.

The same is true for buses, as many times the lines to leave a park were so long it took more than 6 buses to get people back (we left on the 6th bus and there was still a big line behind us). We saw some people grab wheelchairs on their way out of the parks so that they'd be loaded onto a bus as soon as they got there and they could skip the line and not wait more than 30 minutes to get on bus. A family behind us one night had their grandparents with them, one of whom was in a wheelchair, and they waited the almost 40 minutes with us, but they sent the grandparents off on the first bus. This I thought was very nice and unusual, that they let the elderly go, but unlike many others they did not try to send hteir whole family of 12 to the front to get on the first bus with the grandparents. They were the exception, however, and many times I had to wait for another bus because a 'non-handicapped' person would bring their entire family to the front of the line and take up about 15 seats.

My mother came on our NYE trip and though she has cancer she did not rent a wheelchair and waited in line like everyone else. Yes, she got tired, but we took breaks as needed. We even suggested she get a wheelchair so she wouldn't have to walk so much but she did not want to take advantage of this since she is able to walk like other people. We also saw many older people walking and waiting in line, though I'm sure they tire faster than someone my age, while people who were my age were getting free rides around the park and on rides with no wait. I can imagine that if this priviledge keeps getting abused then Disney will do away with it and those who really need it will be without the privledge as well.

You also stated you don't have a problem with people who have a true "handicapping" condition but you obviously have something against overweight people using a scooter. Disabilities come in all shapes, sizes, walks of life, poor life choices, bad genetics and luck of the draw, etc. My dad is an obese man who also has a really bad back due to a motorcycle accident from his leaner days. He has to walk with a cane and even then gets tired easily and has lots of pain. My sis and I got him to try out the scooters in Wal-Mart a couple of years ago. He was embarassed b/c he didn't want people judging him and thinking that he was using it b/c he's overweight. He finally tried it and now owns one. He is out and about all the time. He's coming to WDW with us in April. He's going to have his scooter and he won't be cutting lines either.

Your statements were pretty ugly IMO. You may not have meant them that way but it's the way it came across. Many disabilities cannot be seen and you nor anyone else has a right to judge. Be thankful you have the joy of good health.

 

[justhat]

Once again, I said any disabilty, I did not put restrictions on them as to what kind. I too know many people who are medically 'morbidly obese', they're well over 300 pounds and about 5'4". Do I think they're evil people, no, I don't. Would they want a scooter in WDW, yes they would, and if they want to rent one that's fine. But as you also pointed out yourself, your dad has a scooter where he lives, which I said most handicapped people do have their own aids at home. I disagree that my comments were ugly. How many times must I repeat that I said I think disabled people should get their special treatment, but that fakers should not. People like I mentioned previously (a group of teens, people who didn't want a stroller since it didn't come with special treatment) and people like peachgirl saw as well. Those people are what I call ugly, trying to use a priviledge they are not entitled to. That is ugly because it only hurts the people who rightly deserve those priviledges. Those of you who posted should all be in agreement with me since you're the ones who will ultimately suffer the consequences of the cheaters.

 

[gepetto]

perhaps these people are obese because they are disabled and are forced to live a sedentary lifestyle.

I thought the people in wheelchairs/ECV's had to wait in the regular queues for most rides unless they had a special Guest Assistance Pass. I have noticed that on some rides, if you're in a wheelchair, the wait is actually longer.

 

[justhat]

"perhaps these people are obese because they are disabled and are forced to live a sedentary lifestyle."

This may be the case with some people, however my friend with MS leads a rather sedentary life and is about 100 pounds. You can be fairly unactive and still be thin. I'm not saying obese people are bad, as if I were I would be saying I hate most people I know, which is not the case. However, many people are simply obese because they overeat or eat the wrong foods, not all are disabled. Also, many are disabled because of their obesity, which as my fiancé is a medical doctor can tell you, is a huge problem in America today. Many people bring illnesses upon themselves as a result of their weight, such as diabetes and high blood pressure. This is not true of everyone, nor do I care why someone is obese or disabled because if they are, that's fine, they can get their special treament as I will repeat once again, I was NOT referring to people with a disability, but those who pretend to have one to cut the lines.


"I thought the people in wheelchairs/ECV's had to wait in the regular queues for most rides unless they had a special Guest Assistance Pass. I have noticed that on some rides, if you're in a wheelchair, the wait is actually longer."

No, you do not need a special pass if you have a wheelchair as I spent the day in WDW with a wheelchair-bound friend who needed the handicapped entrance since he could not leave his special chair and not once did we need a special pass. I'm sure sometimes the wheelchair wait is longer than the regular line but most times that is not the case. We never encountered more than a 10 minute wait with our friend and if there was a wait the CM would tell us and suggest we go to another attraction first then come back so that we would not have to wait.

But once again, if you are disabled, my posts are not referring to you, they are directed towards the people who simply get a wheelchair to cut the line, and yes, they do exist!

 

[JJS2K3]

But once again, if you are disabled, my posts are not referring to you, they are directed towards the people who simply get a wheelchair to cut the line, and yes, they do exist!

And back to my original question: How would you know?