Thank you and

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What a travel day!

Looks like that lobby is red enough to wake you up!
I've only done a red eye once on the way to Atlantis - thought I could sleep on the way to Miami - not so much. I'm not sure I want to do it again - when I got there, I spent half the day napping instead of lounging by the pool.
Isn't that something? All that red?
The red eye is brutal, no doubt. I've done it twice. Once to MCO with the kids and once coming back to Seattle from Chicago. That one was actually worse as it was a 2 leg trip through Vegas....with a little bit of a layover there. UGH.
Here's the thing though. Traveling east we lose a whole day and it is really really hard to get everyone onto east coast time. As bad as the red eye was, with the nap (probably 3-4 hours by the time we got to the room and crashed) it let us still be tired enough at east coast bedtime to go to sleep and get in the right time zone quickly.
The big kids were a time zone nightmare last trip and both Jeff and I think it will be better if we force the change this way, we've actually built the trip for a full day of recovery (again). So we will see. If we do it I hope we can check in early but....it's a wild card. If we can't do the red eye I'm going to shoot for a super early morning flight out of here so that again, the kids arrive tired. Problem with that is both big kids will sleep on the plane so it could backfire.
Our hope is we take the red eye, people sleep at least part of the way there, we get in about 6:30 again. Take town car to the grocery store and hotel. Check in (which will just be dumping our bags, room unlikely to be ready), have breakfast at The Kitchen and if room isn't ready by then go pass out by the pool.
If all goes well by about 3pm our clocks will be reset and we will be ready to go play for the afternoon and evening and go to bed on time!
Hey Cynthia-
Just wanted to let you know the new thread is up and running...
An Invasion of a STRANGER Kind...
See you over there!
Oooh oooh! On my way!
I hope a better deal comes out for you. It's hard to switch offsite and give up the US fastpasses. If you do decide to stay at Pop for those nights, you can always buy the US fastpasses. I'm not sure how much they cost and if that'll even be a savings
That PIN makes staying in a Disney resort much more appealing. And I completely understand not wanting to end the vacation at US.
What would a rental be for the US days?
I'm considering going only to see the Wizarding World of Harry Potter. But my nephews will be 6.5 and 2 at the time. I'm not sure there would be much for them. And I'm not willing to give up Disney days.
Does US offer PIN codes like Disney?
A rental car will be in the mid 300's as we have to get a van to fit all of us
I think if you buy the express pass it is a per day thing (not per ticket with the room like we would have) and can only be used once on each participating ride whereas I think the room ones are unlimited. Not positive about that though. For our dates the express passes run 26 each on Sat and 40 on the Sunday so it'd be $400 for the 2 days!
Guess that's why the park tickets themselves are so cheap.
We took the boys to IOA when they were 4 and 5 and they had a BLAST! Lots of stuff for the little ones. They might not be as into HP but the Seuss area was great and a bunch of other stuff. 3D spidey...the Jurassic Park stuff, etc. I think their favorite things was this hysterical talking fountain by Mythos. We had a great day and have wanted to go back since then but one day is sufficient. We've never done the US side in FL, just in CA so that will be fun but it's more of a bonus, not a must-do. We wouldn't save though by just going IOA as our tickets cover both parks for 7 days and were only $99 each. That part is a steal. As a result we will probably hit them 3 or even 4 days, just because we can.
I'm not willing to give up Disney days either, that's how we ended up with a 10 day trip! Of course my original plan was staying somewhere super cheap for the US days and that's obviously morphed into something completely different. By the time we add in a car, parking, buying the express passes, the only way we save is to stay at POP with the PIN and then the savings comes down to about $300. Not worth it unless we have to go there which I am really hoping won't happen!
They do not offer PIN codes, just different deals either through Universal, or Loews or
AAA. Apparently the deals can change quite a bit and be added so just keeping my eye on it. The buy one get one 1/2 off would be perfect but I can't find any information as to when it is historically offered, they don't seem to run the same kind of annual promotions that Disney does so it's a bit of a crap shoot!
I notice another ticker....2 trips coming up? Lucky girl!