Let's speculate about Polynesian some more!

[walt34]

Agreed. I like VGF's lobby during the holidays as much as the next person but god the crowds were insane at times just because of where it's located and the decorations.

Yes, but as you said - that's mostly location and decorations. I don't think that a grander lobby at RIV would necessarily draw huge crowds.

The lobby area at RIV still feels like a missed opportunity to me. The window towards lake would have worked even better with higher ceilings and Le petit café would have benefited from a larger seating area. It just feels a little bit cramped.

 

[GoingSince1990]

My favorite DVC lobby is VGF, which echoes the magnificent main Grand Floridian lobby, while being smaller but still spacious and beautiful.

 

[tidefan]

My favorite DVC lobby is VGF, which echoes the magnificent main Grand Floridian lobby, while being smaller but still spacious and beautiful.

Mine is Aulani, but I definitely agree with your take on the VGF1 lobby (though it was better when the Nespresso machine was there).

 

[GoingSince1990]

Mine is Aulani, but I definitely agree with your take on the VGF1 lobby (though it was better when the Nespresso machine was there).

Oh yes, I forgot about Aulani. I love that one too!

 

[grahf1234]

Yes, but as you said - that's mostly location and decorations. I don't think that a grander lobby at RIV would necessarily draw huge crowds.

Wouldn't a grander lobby like VGF's also bring special decorations for the different seasons? Maybe more stores/restaurants? With the convenience of the skyliners, it'd be real easy for anyone visiting epcot or even HS to stop by and checkout what's going on, I know I would

 

[intamin]

Yes, but as you said - that's mostly location and decorations. I don't think that a grander lobby at RIV would necessarily draw huge crowds.

The lobby area at RIV still feels like a missed opportunity to me. The window towards lake would have worked even better with higher ceilings and Le petit café would have benefited from a larger seating area. It just feels a little bit cramped.

Yeah by no means do I think the lobby is amazing at RIV but it does the job and we love the rooms and the grounds overall. I appreciate grander lobbies *points to AKL and AUL* in signature but I don’t think all of my home resorts need to have it and in RIV’s case I cared more about the accomodations, location and expiration date.

 

[walt34]

Wouldn't a grander lobby like VGF's also bring special decorations for the different seasons? Maybe more stores/restaurants? With the convenience of the skyliners, it'd be real easy for anyone visiting epcot or even HS to stop by and checkout what's going on, I know I would

Well, yes. But I believe the crowds at GF around Christmas are the result of the very special combination of location (next to MK), decorations and tradition. You would not draw this kind of crowds just with a bigger lobby and some decorations. More people, yes, that many, no.

 

[PolyRob]

Agreed. I like VGF's lobby during the holidays as much as the next person but god the crowds were insane at times just because of where it's located and the decorations.

I actually like the dedicated VGF building during the holiday season because it's tucked away from GF, but you can still run over early in the morning or when everyone is asleep and take in the tree and gingerbread house.

I also like that the GF/VGF outer buildings have their own lobby and seating space. That's honestly a big gripe I have with Poly longhouses. The cash longhouses are even worse than the PVB longhouses with "lobby" space.

 

[maui22]

Based on artists renderings and the one diagram filled, seems the tower first floor will have a bar and a restaurant (probably quick service). Are there any other resorts where DVC was added that have their own easy access on the first floor? Stand alone DVC resorts obviously do. BLT is the closest to this that I can think of, but it’s top floor bar with minimal food, plus they had/have restricted access.

With the tower having a great view of the fireworks and Polynesian being adjacent to TTC and GF. Also, Capt. Cooks can be very busy…we had to wait 60 minutes for QS food on our last trip. I would think tower plus some of the longhouses on that side will prefer using the tower QS restaurant.

I recall many tour groups at Polynesian and PVB while it was in active sales. Disney used a Moorea lagoon view room and a bungalow for tours. I would expect the same for the tower.

 

[maui22]

Now that we now CFW, wonder how much longer it will take for tower timeshare license to be granted.

• VGF1 - 1/20/13 declaration granted and opening date of 10/23/23. 276 days.
• PVB - 6/2/14 declaration granted and opening date of 4/1/15. 303 days.
• CCV - 9/6/16 declaration granted and opening date of 7/17/17. 314 days.
• RIV - 7/17/18 declaration granted and opening date of 12/16/19. 517 days.
• VGF2 - 7/16/21 declaration granted and opening date of 6/20/22. 339 days.
• VD - 8/8/22 declaration granted and opening date of 9/28/33. 416 days.
• CFW - 10/20/23 declaration granted and opening date of 7/1/24. 255 days.

Assuming tower opens no later than December 2024:
If tower is like CFW, could be up to 3 months.
If tower is like the next shortest turnaround (VGF1), we should see something within 2 months.
If tower is like PVB or all the other resorts, the declaration either show up within the next month.

Will Disney reveal before CFW sales start to new members (2/27/24)?

Was November - early December when they decided the plans? At members meeting, Chang said they can finally say their plans when asked about the Polynesian tower being in the same association. Would lawyers have been instructed on what guidelines to use for tower right before the member meeting? Using the timelines for the other resorts, that would give them 2-4 months to draw up the paperwork for filing.

 

[TinkB278]

All this CFW news but all I want to know about is poly2! It’s getting so hard to wait without any new information!!

 

[mkatsy]

Now that we now CFW, wonder how much longer it will take for tower timeshare license to be granted.

• VGF1 - 1/20/13 declaration granted and opening date of 10/23/23. 276 days.
• PVB - 6/2/14 declaration granted and opening date of 4/1/15. 303 days.
• CCV - 9/6/16 declaration granted and opening date of 7/17/17. 314 days.
• RIV - 7/17/18 declaration granted and opening date of 12/16/19. 517 days.
• VGF2 - 7/16/21 declaration granted and opening date of 6/20/22. 339 days.
• VD - 8/8/22 declaration granted and opening date of 9/28/33. 416 days.
• CFW - 10/20/23 declaration granted and opening date of 7/1/24. 255 days.

Assuming tower opens no later than December 2024:
If tower is like CFW, could be up to 3 months.
If tower is like the next shortest turnaround (VGF1), we should see something within 2 months.
If tower is like PVB or all the other resorts, the declaration either show up within the next month.

Will Disney reveal before CFW sales start to new members (2/27/24)?

Was November - early December when they decided the plans? At members meeting, Chang said they can finally say their plans when asked about the Polynesian tower being in the same association. Would lawyers have been instructed on what guidelines to use for tower right before the member meeting? Using the timelines for the other resorts, that would give them 2-4 months to draw up the paperwork for filing.

Where does this paperwork get filed? Is it in a public, searchable database, or do we have to wait for Disney to announce it?

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

All this CFW news but all I want to know about is poly2! It’s getting so hard to wait without any new information!!

Somehow I missed the CFW news until this evening— the point chart is much better than I anticipated. I’ve been predicting an insanely high point chart for Poly Tower, but now I’m slightly more optimistic that it won’t be too much higher than VGF.

 

[maui22]

Where does this paperwork get filed? Is it in a public, searchable database, or do we have to wait for Disney to announce it?

Disney has to file paperwork at various locations and it eventually is found on various government websites. The main one is the Florida orange county comptroller web site. Including the link, but not sure if it is permitted or if it will be blocked.
https://occompt.com/services/records-search/

There are a number of people who search the various websites almost daily.

It's also a great tool if someone decides to rent from an owner. They should search to make sure the person has a deed at the resort they say and that they have not sold the deed.

 

[AwfulWaffle]

Question for the contract experts out there, if points are added to the same association then is their verbiage in the current association that would allow those points to be restricted? I am guessing not since the additional points at Grand Floridian weren't restricted and DVD has made it a point that restrictions will be a part of all future expansions. Just curious if they have a loophole they simply didn't exploit last time. Not looking to buy resale Poly points ever but I do plan on purchasing my direct 150 unrestricted points so I guess I do have a little hope there isn't such a loophole

 

[mkatsy]

Question for the contract experts out there, if points are added to the same association then is their verbiage in the current association that would allow those points to be restricted? I am guessing not since the additional points at Grand Floridian weren't restricted and DVD has made it a point that restrictions will be a part of all future expansions. Just curious if they have a loophole they simply didn't exploit last time. Not looking to buy resale Poly points ever but I do plan on purchasing my direct 150 unrestricted points so I guess I do have a little hope there isn't such a loophole

not a contract expert, but there is some suspicious verbiage that allows DVD to add a phase to the condominium association but exclude it from the vacation club. IDK... maybe they just leave themselves every loophole possible "just in case." It also states in bold at the top that each phase can have a new vacation plan created.

 

[Sandisw]

Question for the contract experts out there, if points are added to the same association then is their verbiage in the current association that would allow those points to be restricted? I am guessing not since the additional points at Grand Floridian weren't restricted and DVD has made it a point that restrictions will be a part of all future expansions. Just curious if they have a loophole they simply didn't exploit last time. Not looking to buy resale Poly points ever but I do plan on purchasing my direct 150 unrestricted points so I guess I do have a little hope there isn't such a loophole

There is language in there that says that they can add inventory but it doesn’t have to be part of the same vacation plan.

I posted it a few weeks ago. That leads me to believe that is is possible.

think if they go through the trouble of making it part of PVB, I think they will just keep rules the same.

But, until we see them file it officially, I still think we could be in for surprises.

ETA: it’s posted above.

 

[AwfulWaffle]

Thanks I searched this thread for the keyword restricted and it only returned 5 pages of results so I was like no I don't want to read all those points and still not find my answer. I wanted to buy last summer but that resort just isn't our vibe at all so we would never book there at the 11 month window but Poly is a whole other story. Its still no Wilderness Lodge, our true love, but still pretty great and if they are unrestricted points like before but for a bit more then so be it. Give me 11 months here for a nice split stay with CCV

 

[mkatsy]

Thanks I searched this thread for the keyword restricted and it only returned 5 pages of results so I was like no I don't want to read all those points and still not find my answer. I wanted to buy last summer but that resort just isn't our vibe at all so we would never book there at the 11 month window but Poly is a whole other story. Its still no Wilderness Lodge, our true love, but still pretty great and if they are unrestricted points like before but for a bit more then so be it. Give me 11 months here for a nice split stay with CCV

Hurry up and wait... hahaha .... I do wonder how many people are thinking about plan B in case Poly is not declared in the manner that they would prefer. I don't really care if it's restricted, unrestricted, the same, or new. I just don't want to purchase any trust properties because the community maintenance fee "soup" is outside my comfort zone. I'll probably tap out of DVD, live happily with my current points, and go buy a new car.

 

[Sandisw]

Hurry up and wait... hahaha .... I do wonder how many people are thinking about plan B in case Poly is not declared in the manner that they would prefer. I don't really care if it's restricted, unrestricted, the same, or new. I just don't want to purchase any trust properties because the community maintenance fee "soup" is outside my comfort zone. I'll probably tap out of DVD, live happily with my current points, and go buy a new car.

I am actually putting Poly tower back on the table if it is part of the trust under certain conditions. We don't yet know if they will go the combined dues route. There are ways it can happen that doesn't do that....

I would consider it under my ideal conditions which is Poly tower its own trust use plan...not part of The Cabins Resort Use Plan...dues are for just the tower...and I get one month advantage to the tower...but then only other trust owners get it after that with all non-trust property DVC resort owners, including PVB getting access at 7 months via BVTC.

Tall order and I am sure wishful thinking!