Land Border Opening?

[quandrea]

Not directly related to boarder opening…does anyone every worry about/consider how you’d handle a positive test while away and prior to heading home? With the delta, drs say one may very well fall ill, but just with a cold like illness. While you wouldn’t be in any grave danger, getting on a plane home would be a no go. I won’t head to the States until testing is no longer a thing. The logistical nightmare of a positive test terrifies me. So opening the boarder is not as attractive to me as it might have been a few weeks ago. Even if it were open, too many risks to travel there for my family. Getting trapped in Florida would be horrible.

As for Canadian travel—we are headed to Newfoundland. Air was shockingly expensive, but everything else was cheap so I could make the budget work. If anyone wants to see our country, I’ve never encountered a more beautiful place than Newfoundland. So much to do. Whales, hiking, the ocean, amazing food, beach combing, amazing people.

 

[Juventus]

I'm in Windsor and have driven back from Disney a half dozen times straight through. I am flying in August: if we don"t pass the test then I would rent a car.

 

[momof2gr8kids]

I'm in Windsor and have driven back from Disney a half dozen times straight through. I am flying in August: if we don"t pass the test then I would rent a car.

So, if you test positive for COVID, you're going to travel into the US? It's no wonder some people are shouting to keep the borders closed, if people are going to do things like this.

 

[quandrea]

So, if you test positive for COVID, you're going to travel into the US? It's no wonder some people are shouting to keep the borders closed, if people are going to do things like this.

No, the positive test would happen in Florida, prior to coming home.

 

[ottawamom]

Renting a car may not be easy either.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

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So, if you test positive for COVID, you're going to travel into the US? It's no wonder some people are shouting to keep the borders closed, if people are going to do things like this.

Nobody said they are flying to the US if they test positive... I mean how? Who’d let them on the plane anyway? Let’s not get carried away.
We are flying mid August and IF we were to test positive taking our pre-departure test, we cancel our flights (ours are fully refundable until 2 hrs prior to departure) and not fly.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

Not directly related to boarder opening…does anyone every worry about/consider how you’d handle a positive test while away and prior to heading home? With the delta, drs say one may very well fall ill, but just with a cold like illness. While you wouldn’t be in any grave danger, getting on a plane home would be a no go. I won’t head to the States until testing is no longer a thing. The logistical nightmare of a positive test terrifies me. So opening the boarder is not as attractive to me as it might have been a few weeks ago. Even if it were open, too many risks to travel there for my family. Getting trapped in Florida would be horrible.

As for Canadian travel—we are headed to Newfoundland. Air was shockingly expensive, but everything else was cheap so I could make the budget work. If anyone wants to see our country, I’ve never encountered a more beautiful place than Newfoundland. So much to do. Whales, hiking, the ocean, amazing food, beach combing, amazing people.

You’ve spiked my interest enough that I want to look into Newfoundland. We are in Ontario and the two provinces we wanted to visit are Alberta (Banff) and British Columbia.
However Newfoundland sounds wonderful!

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

I'm in Windsor and have driven back from Disney a half dozen times straight through. I am flying in August: if we don"t pass the test then I would rent a car.

We considered what happens if we were to test positive in Florida. We have covid insurance that covers medical expenses and emergency return home by air if tested positive for COVID-19.
I think you can still rent a car but have to tell the company as they have different cleaning protocols after the car is returned.
Since we are fully vaccinated I think chance of testing positive is small but if we did I would repeat with another test first. I suppose worse case scenario would be self isolating in destination. We were initially flying Aug 29 and later changed it to Aug 15 in case of any issues, we have a couple of weeks before school starts etc. I am also off for 2 additional weeks after our week at Disney.
I do get why some people won’t travel until testing is no longer a requirement. There is some additional stress, things to figure out right now. For some it’s probably huge stress. For example for my mom. She said she finds travel stressful enough without adding proof of tests, vaccines, apps etc and won’t travel right now as it would give her great anxiety. I respect that. She is generally someone that finds things stressful and worries more the the average person. Not sure how long we’ll have to wait to travel without any restrictions though...

 

[bookbabe626]

If by some mathematically remote chance DH and I (fully-vaccinated) tested positive while away, we’d likely just quarantine wherever we were, but maybe switch to a DVC 1 bdrm villa if it was at WDW. I’m mostly retired and he works from home, so we can do that wherever. When we had to quarantine on return from WDW in June, it really felt just like normal, other than getting groceries delivered and the multiple daily calls/tests from public health.

 

[quandrea]

You’ve spiked my interest enough that I want to look into Newfoundland. We are in Ontario and the two provinces we wanted to visit are Alberta (Banff) and British Columbia.
However Newfoundland sounds wonderful!

It’s amazing. We went in August of 2019 and it was without a doubt the best family vacation we have ever taken—we have see the world too, from Disney to Alaska, all over Europe, Russia, the rest of Canada. Nothing came close in terms of the fun we had. I’m over the moon to be going again.

PM me if you want itinerary tips and ideas for vacation homes, etc


Car rentals are hard to come by. We are getting ours in downtown St John’s rather than the airport. If you’re looking for a regular car, it won’t be so hard. CAA offers a good discount.

Also, look at flying in to St. John’s and out of Deer Lake. Gros Morne National Park is not to be missed.

Do the lighthouse picnic in Ferry land (near St John’s)!

 

[quandrea]

If by some mathematically remote chance DH and I (fully-vaccinated) tested positive while away, we’d likely just quarantine wherever we were, but maybe switch to a DVC 1 bdrm villa if it was at WDW. I’m mostly retired and he works from home, so we can do that wherever. When we had to quarantine on return from WDW in June, it really felt just like normal, other than getting groceries delivered and the multiple daily calls/tests from public health.

It’s not that mathematically remote with the delta variant—about a thirty percent chance.

The vaccines are only about 70% effective against contracting delta. You won’t become seriously ill, but you will test positive.

I hadn’t really been concerned about this issue at all until yesterday when I listened to a cbc Cross Country Checkup broadcast. The show really made me reconsider what I might do in the event any one of us tested positive in Florida.

 

[igrsod]

We considered what happens if we were to test positive in Florida. We have covid insurance that covers medical expenses and emergency return home by air if tested positive for COVID-19.
I think you can still rent a car but have to tell the company as they have different cleaning protocols after the car is returned.
Since we are fully vaccinated I think chance of testing positive is small but if we did I would repeat with another test first. I suppose worse case scenario would be self isolating in destination. We were initially flying Aug 29 and later changed it to Aug 15 in case of any issues, we have a couple of weeks before school starts etc. I am also off for 2 additional weeks after our week at Disney.
I do get why some people won’t travel until testing is no longer a requirement. There is some additional stress, things to figure out right now. For some it’s probably huge stress. For example for my mom. She said she finds travel stressful enough without adding proof of tests, vaccines, apps etc and won’t travel right now as it would give her great anxiety. I respect that. She is generally someone that finds things stressful and worries more the the average person. Not sure how long we’ll have to wait to travel without any restrictions though...

Where did you get your covid insurance? I think that is necessary for our September trip if there is a negative test requirement. We are all fully vaxxed, but getting home if someone is positive is a worry.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

Where did you get your covid insurance? I think that is necessary for our September trip if there is a negative test requirement. We are all fully vaxxed, but getting home if someone is positive is a worry.

Manulife, booked it through Air Canada with our flights. They included it for a while but I believe it was if you booked until June 30th or if redeeming Aeroplan miles through July 31.

 

[flav]

Not directly related to boarder opening…does anyone every worry about/consider how you’d handle a positive test while away and prior to heading home?

Worry is an understatement, to the point that I have multiple trips planned:

1. If USA opens the land border, we drive to the beaches on the East coast.
2. If Canada drops the pre-departure test for the return, we fly to Florida.
3. If neither, we travel locally.

We considered what happens if we were to test positive in Florida. We have covid insurance that covers medical expenses and emergency return home by air if tested positive for COVID-19.

Now, I find that very interesting… It would allow number 2. But we would still be stressed, especially my teens.

 

[flav]

Manulife, booked it through Air Canada with our flights. They included it for a while but I believe it was if you booked until June 30th or if redeeming Aeroplan miles through July 31.

I booked with Aeroplan, how do I confirm coverage?

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

I booked with Aeroplan, how do I confirm coverage?

When did you book and when do you travel?

 

[tlcdoula]

I heard an announcement today that our govt is working on a vaccine passport that would be internationally accepted. But it will be up to the individual provinces to go with it or not. Cough, Alberta
This would be great. I detest the BC service app you have to download in order to get to Health Gateway where you can get digital copy of vaccine record. So stupid.

The whole process in BC to get to the vaccines records is insane... I got mine set up but need to do hubbies so it is done but it took me a bit to get mine all figured out.. Honestly I am not sure if I will be able to get back to it again

 

[Pumpkin1172]

When you go to some other countries you are required to have certain immunizations and have to show proof of them so how is this any different, it just baffles me how some people are so opposed to just showing a piece of paper or scanning a QR code. I'm referring to those in US and Canada that think it infringes on their rights not you specifically.

Exactly...travelling into different countries requires different immunizations and proof of them, and people don't bat and eye to do those requirements.
I guess maybe the tinfoil hats are a little too tight All joking aside, it is still personal preference if you get the vaccination or not. If it's required to travel, then they will have to do what is " required". Why should this vaccination be any different than some of the vaccinations requires to travel into South American or Africa?

I heard an announcement today that our govt is working on a vaccine passport that would be internationally accepted. But it will be up to the individual provinces to go with it or not. Cough, Alberta
This would be great. I detest the BC service app you have to download in order to get to Health Gateway where you can get digital copy of vaccine record. So stupid.

I just shake my head at him sometimes. He wants people to be able to travel into Alberta. He wants the boarder opened again to get the money and jobs flowing again here...but doesn't want the vaccine passport.

We knew that as soon as there was talk about the vaccine, that it would be needed to safely travel.

I am hopeful that soon those who are fully vaccinated will be able to cross at the boarder. Sooner or later the boarder will need to be opened to let people travel again. Waiting for the 21. Hopefully family members will finally be able to come back and visit us again!

 

[Sue M]

The whole process in BC to get to the vaccines records is insane... I got mine set up but need to do hubbies so it is done but it took me a bit to get mine all figured out.. Honestly I am not sure if I will be able to get back to it again

I have to do my daughters with her. Thankfully Hubbie isn’t traveling with us or I’d have to do his too. I’d rather chew off my right arm than have to go through this again. Whoever thought of this system should get his head examined. I’m sure it must have been a man lol.

 

[Sue M]

Exactly...travelling into different countries requires different immunizations and proof of them, and people don't bat and eye to do those requirements.
I guess maybe the tinfoil hats are a little too tight All joking aside, it is still personal preference if you get the vaccination or not. If it's required to travel, then they will have to do what is " required". Why should this vaccination be any different than some of the vaccinations requires to travel into South American or Africa?

I just shake my head at him sometimes. He wants people to be able to travel into Alberta. He wants the boarder opened again to get the money and jobs flowing again here...but doesn't want the vaccine passport.

We knew that as soon as there was talk about the vaccine, that it would be needed to safely travel.

I am hopeful that soon those who are fully vaccinated will be able to cross at the boarder. Sooner or later the boarder will need to be opened to let people travel again. Waiting for the 21. Hopefully family members will finally be able to come back and visit us again!

I knew you’d have something to say about it lol. I hope for further reduction of hoops in 21th too. For fully vaccinated. Like doing away with the 72 hr test flying home. We have to test at the airport when we land. Isn’t that enough?