Land Border Opening?

[TommyJK]

Exactly...travelling into different countries requires different immunizations and proof of them, and people don't bat and eye to do those requirements.
I guess maybe the tinfoil hats are a little too tight All joking aside, it is still personal preference if you get the vaccination or not. If it's required to travel, then they will have to do what is " required". Why should this vaccination be any different than some of the vaccinations requires to travel into South American or Africa?

I think for the most part, the vast majority of people up here never look to travel to places that (pre-pandemic) required various proofs of vaccination so it never really dawned on them/impacted them. Out of sight, out of mind so to say. But now requiring something needed that previously wasn't is bound to rile some people up.

That being said, I'm all for it. Not only will it help give many peace of mind that things will be safer if they want to travel sometime soon, but will continue to give incentive for more people to get vaccinated if they were maybe on the fence.

 

[PixieT78]

The whole process in BC to get to the vaccines records is insane... I got mine set up but need to do hubbies so it is done but it took me a bit to get mine all figured out.. Honestly I am not sure if I will be able to get back to it again

Now that I have it set up, it is pretty easy. Let me know if you are getting stuck! I need to get DH's done as well so that's the plan for this weekend!

 

[Pumpkin1172]

That being said, I'm all for it. Not only will it help give many peace of mind that things will be safer if they want to travel sometime soon, but will continue to give incentive for more people to get vaccinated if they were maybe on the fence.

We are too. It is something we know happens in other parts of the world...this is just on a bigger scale for a requirement.

 

[bookbabe626]

It’s not that mathematically remote with the delta variant—about a thirty percent chance.

The vaccines are only about 70% effective against contracting delta. You won’t become seriously ill, but you will test positive.

I hadn’t really been concerned about this issue at all until yesterday when I listened to a cbc Cross Country Checkup broadcast. The show really made me reconsider what I might do in the event any one of us tested positive in Florida.

Won’t discuss this here, but we are still not worried based on our math and research. As a former news broadcaster, I choose to do my own research and not believe what I hear/read in the mass media. ;-)

 

[dvcdisney]

I know it's not Land border, but it's nice to see that the Canadian ports will be opening in November.

 

[Mikey15]

I know it's not Land border, but it's nice to see that the Canadian ports will be opening in November.

I’d say that’s precisely timed to confirm there basically won’t be much cruise traffic in Canada until next spring. I think the season basically ends in October for most of the ports? At least announcing it now allows cruiselines and cruisers to plan ahead.

But hey, some potential land border news on the horizon. Mid-August?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-us-border-vaccinations-1.6105110

 

[scorpsfan]

I'm thinking the fully vaccinated might still need a covid test for re-entry into Canada through the land border Has anyone had any experience with this? Does Walgreens offer free testing for Canadians too?? (that sounds too good to be true!)

 

[Camilo]

I'm thinking the fully vaccinated might still need a covid test for re-entry into Canada through the land border Has anyone had any experience with this? Does Walgreens offer free testing for Canadians too?? (that sounds too good to be true!)

A friend of mine told me you can get a free test at CVS, but I wasn't able to see that on their website (I did see it's free for Americans). It's funny for the price of COVID tests varies here: Shoppers charges 40.00 and Lifelabs charges 199.00. that's a huge difference for a family of 5, like ours.

Our end of August drive down trip is still on hold waiting for that confirmation if the borders are open and what the requirements are for driving. Fingers crossed.....

 

[KNovacovschi]

A friend of mine told me you can get a free test at CVS, but I wasn't able to see that on their website (I did see it's free for Americans). It's funny for the price of COVID tests varies here: Shoppers charges 40.00 and Lifelabs charges 199.00. that's a huge difference for a family of 5, like ours.

Our end of August drive down trip is still on hold waiting for that confirmation if the borders are open and what the requirements are for driving. Fingers crossed.....

They are 2 different tests. The $40 one is just the antigen test but the $199 is a PCR test, that’s why there is a price difference.

 

[Sue M]

A friend of mine told me you can get a free test at CVS, but I wasn't able to see that on their website (I did see it's free for Americans). It's funny for the price of COVID tests varies here: Shoppers charges 40.00 and Lifelabs charges 199.00. that's a huge difference for a family of 5, like ours.

Our end of August drive down trip is still on hold waiting for that confirmation if the borders are open and what the requirements are for driving. Fingers crossed.....

watching Global early news, banner on bottom of screen said border May open as soon as August to fully vaccinated US travellers, if vaccination rate keeps on current trajectory. So maybe this will include land border?

They are 2 different tests. The $40 one is just the antigen test but the $199 is a PCR test, that’s why there is a price difference.

I wish Shoppers made this available in BC, and all provinces. I emailed them! Just got canned reply about it only available in 2 provinces.

 

[scorpsfan]

I think the PCR test is the one they will accept at the border, not the rapid one It totally sucks how Americans can get a free one for travel and we can't here.

 

[spewey]

As of this minute (and my usual reminder to read the applicable gov't websites) a PCR test is not required to travel to either the US or return to Canada.

The US accepts Rapid Antigen (amongst many other types) and Canada accepts NAAT, such as the Rapid ID Now available at Walgreens.

 

[TammyLynn33]

I read this and well the comment about not knowing if Americans will be asked for proof of vaccination questions .. so as Canadians we have to show or quarantine ? And under 12s Canadians need to quarantine , It better be the same rules for all travellers and not the “honour “ system

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/polit...D91yHNQTPr2Ea-bBPiKCH0jhDjqUQyURiLkShkrTbQ6w0

 

[hdrolfe]

Perhaps it will work as the cruiselines are doing, show proof or be considered unvaccinated. They are provided proof the same as Canadians, just that it may be easy to forge, same as Canadians. I have never travelled to a country that requires certain vaccinations, what sort of proof is accepted for those? While I think a "passport" of some sort would be nice, I don't think it's absolutely necessary. I am more concerned about not being allowed certain places as vaccinated because I mixed doses as recommended by my country. How will that impact going to the US? Coming back is obviously a nonissue, Canada will accept me as vaccinated. There will have to be some sort of acceptance of vaccines that aren't in use here as well, though that's really more for flying I suppose.

 

[Jrb1979]

Perhaps it will work as the cruiselines are doing, show proof or be considered unvaccinated. They are provided proof the same as Canadians, just that it may be easy to forge, same as Canadians. I have never travelled to a country that requires certain vaccinations, what sort of proof is accepted for those? While I think a "passport" of some sort would be nice, I don't think it's absolutely necessary. I am more concerned about not being allowed certain places as vaccinated because I mixed doses as recommended by my country. How will that impact going to the US? Coming back is obviously a nonissue, Canada will accept me as vaccinated. There will have to be some sort of acceptance of vaccines that aren't in use here as well, though that's really more for flying I suppose.

It shouldn't matter as only what you got for your 2nd dose is listed on you vaccination record. I don't think it will matter much for going into the US as I doubt they will enforce proof of vaccination. I'm all for anyone coming into Canada requiring to download the app

 

[hdrolfe]

It shouldn't matter as only what you got for your 2nd dose is listed on you vaccination record. I don't think it will matter much for going into the US as I doubt they will enforce proof of vaccination. I'm all for anyone coming into Canada requiring to download the app

I think it will depend on where you are travelling. You are probably right about the US, but I know the cruiselines are asking about both doses, and some countries are not on board with the mixing, there was an article on CBC today about a couple planning a trip to Barbados that had to cancel because they aren't considered fully vaccinated. I am sure time will sort it out, and I don't plan to travel for a bit, but those planning trips in the near future are another story.

 

[scorpsfan]

The US accepts Rapid Antigen (amongst many other types) and Canada accepts NAAT, such as the Rapid ID Now available at Walgreens.
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Ok wait.. let me get this straight.. excuse my confusion.. but we can't just get a $40 one at Shoppers because it might not be ready in time? Is that right? I thought the PCR one was specifically for travel.

 

[CanucksRock]

The $40 shoppers one is accepted by the US. It is a rapid antigen test.

 

[scorpsfan]

The $40 shoppers one is accepted by the US. It is a rapid antigen test.

Really? I thought only the $199 ones were required for travel.

 

[TommyJK]

Really? I thought only the $199 ones were required for travel.

Coming back to Canada, they won't accept the cheaper/faster antigen test. You need an NAAT type test (of which the PCR test is one of them). But flying down to the US they accept the cheaper antigen test

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html

What types of SARS-CoV-2 test are acceptable under the Order?
Passengers must be tested with a viral test that could be either an antigen test or a nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT). Examples of available NAATs for SARS-CoV-2 include but are not restricted to reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR), reverse transcription loop-mediated isothermal amplification (RT-LAMP), transcription-mediated amplification (TMA), nicking enzyme amplification reaction (NEAR), and helicase-dependent amplification (HDA). The test used must be authorized for use by the relevant national authority for the detection of SARS-CoV-2 in the country where the test is administered. A viral test conducted for U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) personnel, including DOD contractors, dependents, and other U.S. government employees, and tested by a DOD laboratory located in a foreign country also meets the requirements of the Order.