Land Border Opening?

[Mikey15]

It's a CDC mandate for the US testing; need to visit their website. For whatever reason i can't post the link here but it's under travelers/testing-international-air-travelers section. Scroll to the FAQ's and there's a comment that the requirements of the Order only apply to air travel into the US.

That is interesting. Looks like they "recommend" a test 3-5 days after returning to US for fully vaccinated people but doesn't seem to be a requirement.

Two weeks after my 2nd dose, I (dual national) could drive across the land border without having to quarantine (I checked the New York requirements on the CDC site too and nope, don't have to) but to come back to Canada I have to pay for a pre-arrival test, AND take a test on arrival. I can't believe heading south would be that simple, but it appears to be, at least for people who have right-of-return to both countries.

 

[starvenger]

Sorry about the delay. (OK, not sorry - went hiking in the Lion's Head area and it was tiring, but enjoyable.)

Anyway, the pertinent details about Wilner's article:
- Same day test cost $225. $160 for results by 5pm next day.
- CBSA doesn't care about if you have proof of vaccination - they're looking for confirmation in the ArriveCan receipt.
- If you can't upload your proof via the app, you can do so through the website.
- Customs officer gave Wilner a self-testing kit, and quarantine was required ONLY if the result was positive.

 

[newdeal]

urgh, I HATE pay walls on articles.

if anyone has a Mac this can be bypassed in safari by going to safari>preferences>security and unclick the box so that javascript is disabled then refresh the page and you can read the entire article without the paywall blocking it. You can the re-enable it right away because leaving it disabled will break many sites

 

[Minniemoo15]

My DH flew across the border yesterday. He said it was all very smooth, he had uploaded his vaccine status ahead of time on ArriveCan and had no issues. He had his negative test result from the Seattle airport taken the day before his departure. His employer had booked him a test in YUL for upon arrival but he didn’t end up needing it, Customs gave him an at-home test to do.

It is pretty awesome having him home with no quarantine needed! He has done many 2 week self-isolations in the past which is hard on everyone but especially our young daughters. Travel is still complicated - all the testing and different forms/requirements but it is much more manageable than it was with no isolation required now.

 

[TammyLynn33]

My DH flew across the border yesterday. He said it was all very smooth, he had uploaded his vaccine status ahead of time on ArriveCan and had no issues. He had his negative test result from the Seattle airport taken the day before his departure. His employer had booked him a test in YUL for upon arrival but he didn’t end up needing it, Customs gave him an at-home test to do.

It is pretty awesome having him home with no quarantine needed! He has done many 2 week self-isolations in the past which is hard on everyone but especially our young daughters. Travel is still complicated - all the testing and different forms/requirements but it is much more manageable than it was with no isolation required now.

what do you do with the take home test ? What day ? Where do you drop it off ? Just your local health unit ?
thanks

 

[bookbabe626]

what do you do with the take home test ? What day ? Where do you drop it off ? Just your local health unit ?
thanks

There‘s instructions in the box…Uber or Purolator pick it up, depending on where you live.

 

[Minniemoo15]

what do you do with the take home test ? What day ? Where do you drop it off ? Just your local health unit ?
thanks

He did it this morning - it had to be done within 24 hours of landing. He had to fill out some information and call a number to have someone on the line walk him through it. Purolator will pick it up tomorrow.
One thing we noted is that both the at-home testing and the ArriveCan app haven’t updated their isolating description yet. Both still mention hotel quarantine etc. A little unnerving but he does have an official paper from customs exempting him from isolation.

 

[rosieposy]

Anyone know what the policy is for returning Americans by land ? Is it still a test within three days ?

I’m an American permanent resident and a Canadian Citizen. My kids in I were in Canada for five weeks and we drove home to Ohio last week. We didn’t have to test at all on the American side. The border process is the same as it always was on the American side. They didn’t ask me anything about Covid.

 

[TammyLynn33]

He did it this morning - it had to be done within 24 hours of landing. He had to fill out some information and call a number to have someone on the line walk him through it. Purolator will pick it up tomorrow.
One thing we noted is that both the at-home testing and the ArriveCan app haven’t updated their isolating description yet. Both still mention hotel quarantine etc. A little unnerving but he does have an official paper from customs exempting him from isolation.

Yes apparently my ex just crossed into Canada last night . I never agreed to a last min visit .. he’s going back tomorrow so the at the border test is pointless. Sigh .. I really wish Canada border would follow up that someone is an essential family member not a once a year visitor .

 

[mamaofsix]

Just wanted to remind everyone that I started this thread to discuss the full re-opening of the LAND border for non-essential travelers who would like to drive from Canada to Disney, and any news or trip plans that are related to this topic. Obviously, the land border has not fully opened yet and we are still waiting.

There seems to be a lot of discussion about Canadians coming to Canada by land to visit, unrelated to Disney trips. There is also a lot of flying policy being discussed for a land border thread. If you'd like to discuss flying across the border, there is a thread for that right here:

https://www.disboards.com/threads/air-travel-policy-updates.3840744/
Thanks

 

[accm]

We're planning on going to Disney for the Wine and Dine Half, and flights from Detroit are so much cheaper. I can't decide if I should book it or wait. Part of me is certain that the border will be open by then, but then another part of me isn't sure if we should risk it.

I just want to be able to go to Disney without paying a small fortune for flights!!

 

[pigletto]

We're planning on going to Disney for the Wine and Dine Half, and flights from Detroit are so much cheaper. I can't decide if I should book it or wait. Part of me is certain that the border will be open by then, but then another part of me isn't sure if we should risk it.

I just want to be able to go to Disney without paying a small fortune for flights!!

That’s a tough one. Like you, I’m pretty sure it will be open BUT I would be anxious from the minute I booked the flights until I got official confirmation that it was opening. That would take some of the enjoyment out of planning for me.

 

[accm]

That’s a tough one. Like you, I’m pretty sure it will be open BUT I would be anxious from the minute I booked the flights until I got official confirmation that it was opening. That would take some of the enjoyment out of planning for me.

I think I'll track the prices and see what happens. I can fly both myself and my husband down out of DTW for the same cost as just one of us from YYZ!

 

[CJK]

Is anyone else tracking how things are going in Europe? They tend to be ahead of us in terms of Covid trends. I am desperate to start travelling again, but the surges in Europe have me really nervous......

 

[wdwmom3]

Is anyone else tracking how things are going in Europe? They tend to be ahead of us in terms of Covid trends. I am desperate to start travelling again, but the surges in Europe have me really nervous......

We are now ahead of most of Europe with vaccination rates. And the surge they are seeing now is because of the Delta which is already here. If you look at Ontario, we have been able to keep things fairly low even with the Delta because of the vaccination levels.

 

[CJK]

We are now ahead of most of Europe with vaccination rates. And the surge they are seeing now is because of the Delta which is already here. If you look at Ontario, we have been able to keep things fairly low even with the Delta because of the vaccination levels.

Thank you! I feel better.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

Any guesses ahead of the July 21st date? Do you think anything will change?

 

[Jrb1979]

Any guesses ahead of the July 21st date? Do you think anything will change?

I have this feeling not much is going to change. A lot of that stems from Trudeau recently saying those not vaccinated will be allowed into Canada. Which says to me the ArriveCanada app with your proof of vaccination is the hold up. Either way, til testing is no longer a requirement I have no plans to travel.

 

[CanucksRock]

My mom is hoping this comes true July 21. She is fully vaccinated and wants to drive to Texas to see her granddaughter that she has not seen in almost a year now. (She wants to drive, so her husband can go. He has health issues, and would not do well on a plane, especially with mask requirements)
CTV news article July 9, 2021

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, who represents the border state of New York, urged the two countries to come up with a mutual plan to reopen the border as soon as possible -- and failing that, for the U.S. to take unilateral action.
"If an agreement cannot be reached … the United States must do two things: expand the definition of essential travel to include vaccinated Canadian citizens with family, property, educational, medical, or business interests (in the U.S.), and unilaterally open the northern border to those vaccinated Canadians," Schumer said in a statement this week.

 

[TommyJK]

My mom is hoping this comes true July 21. She is fully vaccinated and wants to drive to Texas to see her granddaughter that she has not seen in almost a year now. (She wants to drive, so her husband can go. He has health issues, and would not do well on a plane, especially with mask requirements)
CTV news article July 9, 2021

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, who represents the border state of New York, urged the two countries to come up with a mutual plan to reopen the border as soon as possible -- and failing that, for the U.S. to take unilateral action.
"If an agreement cannot be reached … the United States must do two things: expand the definition of essential travel to include vaccinated Canadian citizens with family, property, educational, medical, or business interests (in the U.S.), and unilaterally open the northern border to those vaccinated Canadians," Schumer said in a statement this week.

Ya, I think this is more likely. US technically doesn't need to wait for Canada to want to open the border before they actually do. I think up to now it's all been a loose agreement/courtesy between the countries to do it together.

My guess is that Canada will want to drag it out at least another month, for which we will in terms of allowing US citizens to come up here. But if I had to wager, the US will open southbound to get our tourist dollars and then it's just up to us travellers if we want to venture down there and deal with the return steps/precautions. Perhaps Canada will lift part of the return steps of the pre-arrival test but still mandate us to take the arrival test (i.e. give us a test kit to do at home) so they can still monitor #s of infection that potentially come across to see any ongoing trends.