Just back Had a Wonderful time..but.......

[DISNEYFOS]

has anyone noticed an sharp increase in rudeness and lack of common courtesy???

We had a fabulous time. The weather was great, our room at the beach club villas was spectacular. We had some great character dining experiences and other dining experiences. Crowd levels were managable, very friendly cast members...Bus schedule left a little to be desired but whatever..

I was just stunned by the level of rudeness amongst the other guests. Pushiness in lines, 1 person waiting in line and then when they get to the front yelling to their 10 other family members to join them... Kids pushing you aside to get at the sink in the bathrooms for goodness sake (I'm glad they are washing their hands but my goodness)... My one year old had her arm out of the stroller pointing at something..one guy was in such a hurry to get by us..he almost broke her arm. At the halloween parade, we found a nice spot about 15 mins prior to the start. We were standing right behind a family with a little boy sitting on the curb. Who obviously staked out the spot earlier than us. Right as the parade started..a mother with a 2 or 3 year old pushed passed us to plop her child right on the curb next to the little boy. and proceed to stand squished up against me..with this drippy ice cream dripping all over the little boy. She said to the family in front..Oh you don't mind do you? Are you kidding me?? They had to delay the triceritop ride in Dinoland because a kid was acting up in line..even went down to where the controller runs the ride... Parent didn't even pretend to try to stop him.

Sorry..I just had to check if anyone else noticed an increase in this type of stuff.

It didn't ruin my vacation..I just really felt like it was so much more than in previous years.

 

[rt2dz]

Yes. I have noticed an increase in rudeness. People think “I’m spending all this money…” forgetting that everyone there is spending a ton of money (maybe more) too. And then with the economy… I’m sorry, you might have had this trip planned and paid for, but if you need to divert that money so you have less stress at home, you should. People forget that if they give a little, they get a little.

It’s funny; I’ve been following another thread on a different board complaining about these rude people. And they certainly were. What the poster isn’t catching is that she was rude to them herself. Karma.

The kid thing doesn’t bother me as much. Kids are forgetful and then they get excited… But boy does it bug the <bleep> out of me when parents don’t correct them. Do they think their kids will just magically behave one day? Automatically learn proper behavior? Don’t they get it is their job to (nicely) correct their children when they start acting rude, no matter how innocent the incident?

 

[Tinker'n'Fun]

We were there in Sept and it was horrible.... We have a family inside joke where we start with "I am batting 100". This is code for a rude/terrible situation happening around us. It gives us the option as a family to leave or adjust what we are doing without hurting anyone feelings... To say we were batting over 10,000,000 before we left is an understatement.

And because I finally feel like I can, I have an invisible handicap. The amount of rude comments I received from other people this year was at an all time high. I actually broke down crying a few times this trip. I felt so bad for my children. They know what is going on and here are these people actually screaming at me.... It's hard enough to be a teenager with a parent with disabilities but to have other people yelling was over the top! Sorry I hijacked the thread, I needed to finally get it off my chest.

 

[DISNEYFOS]

The kid thing doesn’t bother me as much. Kids are forgetful and then they get excited… But boy does it bug the <bleep> out of me when parents don’t correct them. Do they think their kids will just magically behave one day? Automatically learn proper behavior? Don’t they get it is their job to (nicely) correct their children when they start acting rude, no matter how innocent the incident?

Absolutely. If my kid bumps into you or gets to close...I am there to teach her to say excuse me..or sorry or whatever. I know they are excited.. I just like to be aware of my surroundings and I teach my kid that as well..especially in a crowd. Hold doors open for people that need help. don't crowd when we are all trying to get to the same place. etc.

I was in playhouse disney and I had a little boy literally jump on me 5 times. 1 or 2 understandable.. I even tried to move to give them a bit more room. There was no sorry, or excuse me..or anything. weird.

Just no one seems to notice anyone around them..and if they do..they just consider you an obstacle to what they want.

 

[DISNEYFOS]

We were there in Sept and it was horrible.... We have a family inside joke where we start with "I am batting 100". This is code for a rude/terrible situation happening around us. It gives us the option as a family to leave or adjust what we are doing without hurting anyone feelings... To say we were batting over 10,000,000 before we left is an understatement.

And because I finally feel like I can, I have an invisible handicap. The amount of rude comments I received from other people this year was at an all time high. I actually broke down crying a few times this trip. I felt so bad for my children. They know what is going on and here are these people actually screaming at me.... It's hard enough to be a teenager with a parent with disabilities but to have other people yelling was over the top! Sorry I hijacked the thread, I needed to finally get it off my chest.

I'm sorry that you experienced that...Its so uncalled for. What the heck is up with people. Our saying is "I've got a monkey on my back", because literally it seems like if they could just jump on and hold tight they would. We usually just find a spot to move over to and let them pass.

 

[TheRatPack]

We dealt with this all during our trip as well. One time really stuck out in my mind though, at the parade we got an early spot and sat on the curb. A family came up behind us and the adults (parents and grandparents) were busy talking while their sweet little princess decided the sidewalk was thirsty and poured some of her bottled water out. Well, as most liquid things do....it proceeded to run down hill and straight on to my backside. I jumped....heck it was COLD LOL I thought it was the coke we had in the stroller cup holder so I looked at my husband and said "where is your coke?". He showed it to me so I thought hmm, not that. I turned around and saw the little girl with her water bottle tilted and the parents caught me looking at her so they said "awww, she spilled her water"...umm on purpose!!!! Then when I looked over at my husband they must have felt it needed more verbal followup, so they continued on for about 5 minutes about 'oh good grief, it's just water....it'll dry' 'she needs to just get over it'....bla bla bla.

Now granted the water was COLD and it was shocking to have it soak my backside. But truthfully, I have 5 children....and I know accidents happen, or kids will even tilt it to see cause and effect LOL But, I wasn't so mad about the water on my backside....it'll dry and it was the end of the night so no biggie, I was more upset that instead of telling her to say she was sorry, or even the parents apologizing for her, they continued to gripe for 5 minutes or so and even gave me the rudest glare when we saw them 30 minutes or so later walking to the buses. I mean....really how hard is it to say I'm sorry?

 

[Tinker'n'Fun]

I'm sorry that you experienced that...Its so uncalled for. What the heck is up with people. Our saying is "I've got a monkey on my back", because literally it seems like if they could just jump on and hold tight they would. We usually just find a spot to move over to and let them pass.

Wow, I wonder what people would be thinking if we crossed path in a situation... "Mommy how can that family be playing baseball without a bat and where is the Monkey on that families back"

 

[DISNEYFOS]

Oh I forgot another incident at the Beauty and the beast show. We sat in the back to the side..not great seats but we were happy. This mother and her 9/10 year old wanted to sit on the other side of us..fine. I've got the baby on the lap so I stand up to let them by. Ok. ten mins in..the 9 year old decides she wants to sit somewhere else further down...so I get up again to let her by. few mins pass she comes back ...I get up. Come on..its not a very long show..just sit for a min. Then a few mins later both the daughter and mother decide they are going to move...this time the daughter steps firmly on my flipflopped foot as she pushes by again. I yelled Owww. No sorry, no excuse me...nothing from mother or daughter.


Oh and then..I couldn't believe how everyone started to leave at the end of the show. When the cast comes back on stage to bow??!?! and you are supposed to clap?? Haven't people ever been to a theater production before?? You don't just get up and walk out while the performers are on stage?? GEEZZZ

 

[Disneychix]

I think WDW needs to improve how they get people from place to place. For instance ride lines where they let a certain amount of people into a holding pen (TT, TOT, RNR are a few examples) and then they filter through a tiny little doorway into a line are the worst! Many many people have been on these rides before so they all crowd the doorway area and then there's pushing and shoving trying to get all your family members through. We usually wait it out but sometimes I just felt like I was being pushed around when it wasn't needed.
Then this also occurs right after a parade where they close off some walkways around the castle. Getting through Fantasyland is horrid at these times. Those walkways are just too narrow. I actually exchanged 'words' with a lady becuase her husband got ahead of her and she called me 'RUDE' because I was in her way. I was just following the crowd myself!

 

[Cloudwatcher]

Our main problem was personell space. My husband is law enforcement and if you get in his personel space he gets annoyed. We were inline to the the princesses and the family behind us was so close the kid in their arms was leaning over DH. I ended up having to stand behind him (something he hates) just so that they wouldn't be ontop of him.

 

[Steve's Girl]

We noticed this on our last trip also. Every parade, we would arrive early to find a nice spot for our family. Now, my kids would rather be riding rides right up to the minute the parade starts just like every other kid. But I explained that if they wanted a good seat they needed to arrive early and sit on the curb and wait. Without fail, at the last minute someone would try to push in front of us. One parent actually yelled at my DH for not getting up and giving his seat to her kid. We had been waiting an hour and she expected us to move 5 min. before the parade started so her precious could have a good seat. Another time I was sitting on the ground in Frontierland waiting for Spectro. Someone pushed themselves between me and the rope and plopped their kid right in front of me on top of my camera bag. When I told her she and her kid could not sit there, I got the "no speaka English" treatment. But she sure had no problem cussing my husband out when he told her to move.

We leave in a few days and have decided not to do any parades this year because it was so awful last year.

 

[MommytoaSweetie]

Urgh, I'm sorry your experience was negative with the rudeness of other guests! I do feel constantly amazed at the level of manners among some people.

When we were in Disneyland earlier this year, we were waiting for Fantasmic (there aren't many seats there, so you have to find a spot, stand, and wait). So we did. We were tired after all of our walking through the day, but we wanted to see it, so we stood at a fence and waited. DH was carrying our backpack, and I was wearing our daughter in our Ergo (she was snoozing at the time, but we knew she'd wake up to see at least part of the show).

Anyway, right as it started, we felt the people behind us creep in to see closer... I get it, crowds do that, not a big deal. What bothered us, though, was this 15-ish-year-old-boy and his mom or older sister (it was dark and hard to tell) who kept PUSHING us trying to move us so they could see. Apparently, they had already worked their way through the crowd behind us (I know they were not near us while we waited), but they were literally pushing our bodies trying to get us to move so they could see. My DH is 6'5, and I'm not petite, and we were mostly able to stand our ground (DH was getting REALLY annoyed at them trying to push me with DD who was awake and enjoying the show), so we were trying not to budge. They tried both sides of us... as if we even had anywhere to go (we weren't going to push those near us out of our way so that they could stand where we were!). The really bad part was that they eventually realized we weren't giving into the pushing, so they started stepping their feet on top of our feet in an attempt to shove their bodies in front of ours and cause us to step back, meanwhile saying "excuse me"... as if "excuse me" means "get out of my way I want to stand right where you are standing" and NOt "would you please move a little bit so I can get around you." URGH, that infuriated DH and I both enough (mostly for fear that they would hurt DD in their attempt to move us aside), so we both held onto the fence and remained still. I SO wanted to give them a shove out of the way, but that obviously wouldn't have helped the situation and they finally gave up. It was SO annoying, though, and so frustrating to us that half of our show was spent trying to remain standing where we were.

I'm really really hoping that on this coming trip all rude people will be overcome with holiday joy and forget any rude ideas they have coming.

 

[Nie0214]

Bad economy = more rudeness & crabbiness = more crime etc.

I worry about my family and that's it. I don't worry about other people, if they are rude, that is something they will have to deal with in life, and I can't let it bother me.

My mother cannot see in the dark, she is blind in low-light, and trying to walk her through queue lines (I hadn't realized that so many are so dimly lit until this trip!) and make sure she knew if there was an incline / steps / turn was difficult enough. On top of that there were plenty of rude people who were on our backs or muttering about us walking slowly, etc. By the end of my trip I decided that those people are the ones that will not be able to make the best of any situation and will never understand true happiness.

 

[jellybeans0607]

hmmm.. I must be completely oblivious. I can honestly say, no I have not noticed an increase in rudeness. I'm always on cloud nine when i'm there, so I think if anyone was rude to me I probably wouldn't notice.

 

[lisadr]

Did notice it more so this year. I don't even want to go into it. But actually it's not just Disney-it's everywhere. Especially kids. Everyone is so worried that their child will not get the best, the first, the most-that they seem to be pushing their kids to be rude and pushy .

The only upside to that is because it happened so much around us, that our DD was picked for 5 dream moments simply because she was behaving herself and being polite . In fact, at the Rose and Crown she was picked to start the fireworks b/c Mickey got stuck on the monorail and one of the people who picked her actually told my husband that it is a staff decision based on who is best behaved and in the end our server had the final "yay" or "nay". So to all those parents out there who are encouraging you son or daughter to push their way up front and carry on-it might just have the opposite effect

 

[eeyoregon]

No, I didn't notice the rudeness because I was too busy wondering why so many flipping people have NO concept of personal space/personal bubbles!!!

Good grief, do you really think that standing right on top of me, bumping into to me and nudging me is going to make the freakin line move any faster??? BACK OFF!

Seriously people.

 

[Karlzmom]

Absolutely. If my kid bumps into you or gets to close...I am there to teach her to say excuse me..or sorry or whatever. I know they are excited.. I just like to be aware of my surroundings and I teach my kid that as well..especially in a crowd. Hold doors open for people that need help. don't crowd when we are all trying to get to the same place. etc.

I was in playhouse disney and I had a little boy literally jump on me 5 times. 1 or 2 understandable.. I even tried to move to give them a bit more room. There was no sorry, or excuse me..or anything. weird.

Just no one seems to notice anyone around them..and if they do..they just consider you an obstacle to what they want.

...and if you had said a word to the child jumping on you there would have been a dragon-mama right there to cuss you out for daring to speak! Thanks gang, you are all reminding me why I'm becoming a recluse....

 

[YellowMickeyPonchos]

We've been seeing more posts about rudeness on the DL forum. A lot of folks have been having some really bad experiences lately. I guess we've just been lucky to have missed most of it, but then we also go to DL on a super-casual level of wandering around with the occasional ride. The worst line we usually deal with is Peter Pan!

 

[mom2aredhead]

Our main problem was personell space. My husband is law enforcement and if you get in his personel space he gets annoyed. We were inline to the the princesses and the family behind us was so close the kid in their arms was leaning over DH. I ended up having to stand behind him (something he hates) just so that they wouldn't be ontop of him.

I had bit of an issue with personal space too.
I understand that you need to "fill in all available space" in a lot of these lines, but if I'm trying to walk, and you're standing on the back of my flip flops, you're a little too close.

But honestly, other than that, we really didn't have much of an problem at all. We found our parade spots and when the parade was coming by if there was a child behind us that couldn't see, I'd make sure they squeezed in front of me or my husband rather than try to block their view to "punish" them for being late...and the parents would be very appreciative and say thank you. I chat with people in line rather than glare at them if they stand next to me rather than behind me. I correct my son's behavior immediately if it needs it to make sure he does not instigate the people around us, and I've been known to give away my son's stickers or lollipops (with permission from the parents) to kids in line that are starting to act up rather than get annoyed by them. If people are pushing to try to get in front of me, I usually just let them go - there's no way I'm going to be throwing my elbows out or getting in a fight at the Happiest Place on Earth, and very rarely will that 45 seconds make a difference.
People are going to be rude no matter where you are. Come to my son's school yard at dismissal time and you will meet some of the rudest mothers I've ever seen. (and that's why he takes the bus instead ) Add to that the stress of being together 24/7, heat and humidity, and the amount of money spent and people snap. The trick is how you handle it. "Hakuna Matata" is pretty much my motto while there...

 

[Anonomom]

We lucked out on our trip last month. I didn't really notice anyone being rude, and most of the kids we saw were acting within the bounds of appropriate kid behavior. In fact, the worst kid behavior I've ever seen (and parental response) actually happened over a decade ago in WDW.

My friend and I were coming out of the Enchanted Tiki Room, and there was a kid around 10yo in front of us. He started jumping up at the talking totem poles that were in front of the building, trying to grab the moving mouth part. This went on for the better part of a minute, with nobody interfering. Well, he finally reached his goal -- he grabbed the mouth and snapped it right off! His parents didn't even reprimand him. They just told him to "put it down, quickly!" and walked away, pretending nothing had happened.

Now that I'm a mom, I find that incident even more baffling. When my then 2yo DD ripped a page in a library book, she had to bring it back to the library and apologize to the librarian. There's no way I'd let her get away with destroying property, at Disney or anywhere else!