Just a thought

[Stini228]

I don't want this to come out the wrong way, but I feel some of you are a little obssessed.

Yup! That's me!

 

[foxfire]

your post comes across as very un-Disneylike.

If Walt were still here, he would probably like to sit down with you and explain his vision of WDW being a magical place for everyone. If you will stop concentrating on negatives, you will find there's enough magic to go around for all of us.

 

[AnnaS]

Unfortunately we do not have a lot of vacation time to visit more than once a year. Having bought DVC a few years ago, we are now regular/steady visitors. We know we are going back and take it easy a bit more. We just recently treated friends for a week and had it not been for them, we would of never waited 1 1/2 hrs. before each show. Glad we did because boy was it worth it. There is something for everyone. There is always something new. There are great restaurants to enjoy a meal, with or without kids.

Now, as much as I hate crowds and waiting on line - I love it when I hear that the parks are busy because I know business is booming and WDW is not going anywhere, anytime soon.

 

[allie5]

I can see a little of what the OP was trying to say, though I dont agree with all of it ('speshly the bit about us frequent visitors ).

We visited WDW several times before we had children, and too be honest, we never bothered with rides like Dumbo or would have been seen dead in a line for a character autograph!! Of course, with 2 under 5s, this has now changed our park itinerary somewhat!!

We were at DLP in Sept, and I have to admit to feeling slightly puzzled to why couples (especially twentysomethings) would bother to spend 45 mins of their vacation queuing to ride attractions like Dumbo, tea cups or the teeny little train! Older, childless couples were quite often observed pushing young kids aside so THEY could get a photo with Mickey. How do explain to a 4 and 2 year old why they have been pushed by an adult?

Now, looking ahead to when Im say, 60ish, yes, Im still gonna come to WDW. However, I will NOT be elbowing toddlers, or running down folk in a ECV!! Its all about respect. A lot of the kids are there for a one time only trip, I think frequent visitors can do a lot to enhance the experiences of folk less familiar with the parks. I hand out any unwanted FPs, always try to help someone looking puzzled with a map and if Im lucky enough to get a great spot for a parade, then I will always ask parents behind with little ones if they care for them to stand in front of me.

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly that "Disney is for EVERYBODY", but it gets my goat that a heck of a lot of people (especially when they set foot in a park) live by the less than Christian motto "Disney is for ME today, everyone else better get outta my way". I can understand why the OP felt they needed to post if they had been witness to some of the antics of less than "magical" park guests .

 

[CRSNDSNY]

Oh, I needed a good laugh! Thank you jiminycrOck35!

 

[bytheblood]

Originally posted by allie5
I can see a little of what the OP was trying to say, though I dont agree with all of it ('speshly the bit about us frequent visitors ).

We visited WDW several times before we had children, and too be honest, we never bothered with rides like Dumbo or would have been seen dead in a line for a character autograph!! Of course, with 2 under 5s, this has now changed our park itinerary somewhat!!

We were at DLP in Sept, and I have to admit to feeling slightly puzzled to why couples (especially twentysomethings) would bother to spend 45 mins of their vacation queuing to ride attractions like Dumbo, tea cups or the teeny little train! Older, childless couples were quite often observed pushing young kids aside so THEY could get a photo with Mickey. How do explain to a 4 and 2 year old why they have been pushed by an adult?

Now, looking ahead to when Im say, 60ish, yes, Im still gonna come to WDW. However, I will NOT be elbowing toddlers, or running down folk in a ECV!! Its all about respect. A lot of the kids are there for a one time only trip, I think frequent visitors can do a lot to enhance the experiences of folk less familiar with the parks. I hand out any unwanted FPs, always try to help someone looking puzzled with a map and if Im lucky enough to get a great spot for a parade, then I will always ask parents behind with little ones if they care for them to stand in front of me.

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly that "Disney is for EVERYBODY", but it gets my goat that a heck of a lot of people (especially when they set foot in a park) live by the less than Christian motto "Disney is for ME today, everyone else better get outta my way". I can understand why the OP felt they needed to post if they had been witness to some of the antics of less than "magical" park guests .

That was very nicely said. That is the difference between you and the OP. You said what you wanted to say with respect, that person was just plain rude and has no idea what Disney is all about.

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As I said in my first post, there are lots of rude people in WDW. I try to be nice to everybody and I am one that gets REALLY MAD when people are rude. I will say something caddy, but still not be nasty.

My last trip in 2002, there was this she-man that ran in front of me with its two teenagers to get on "Small World" which I found rude, but what was worse, my daughter, 5 at the time, almost got knocked down. I think those are the kind of people that can ruin one's good time, but you cannot let it spoil your whole trip.

 

[Sandyincanada]

Allie, you read my mind so perfectly, its scary, lol.

We love going, feel the magic and will no doubt still go when the kids are gone but you will not see us taking up space in line for character autographs (umm, these are people dressed up for the kids in my mind) or standing in line for "kiddies" rides when there are actually lots of kiddies waiting to ride them. I just woudn't feel right doing that. I guess I feel that there is so much for me to do without taking time away from the actual little kids that are visiting.

But when it comes to the "older" rides/attractions, its first come, first serve, lol. I'm looking forward to going childless one day and doing Epcot the way it should be done. or I guess the way we want to do it.

Yep there are alot of rude people at WDW, more so than other places we visit but <shrugs> what can you do?

 

[Pinnie]

Originally posted by Sandyincanada
but you will not see us taking up space in line for character autographs (umm, these are people dressed up for the kids in my mind)

Well, maybe you need to hear, as Paul Harvey so aptly puts it,
"The Rest Of The Story". If you were around our group of ALL adults (6) last August, you would have seen us running from character to character at AK (we waited our turn patiently) passing a white baseball cap. Our group was getting the hat signed for a 6 yr old cancer patient that was undergoing chemo at a local hospital and could not be at the parks.

Please be fair and wait to hear ALL the facts before you jump to conclusions!

pinnie

 

[ugadog99]

Gotta be a TROLL. No one could seriously think all of that! My first reaction:

 

[SnoWhiteRabbit]

Originally posted by maci
So there should be a rule, you are only allowed to go to WDW once a year and only if you have children???

That is a good one!

I heard that the next Disney park was being built in China and that the above rules would apply -- actually you will only be able to attend if you have only one male child...or something like that...

 

[bytheblood]

From the favorite word of Gantu....TROG!!!

 

[Blueberry]

Me thinks a Troll has escaped from Norway, gotten ahold of a computer and is having some fun on the DIS....

 

[Sandyincanada]

Please be fair and wait to hear ALL the facts before you jump to conclusions

My comment wasn't directed to you personally , Pinnie, I said I wouldn't do it but it was prompted by some of the above comments. Too often, I've seen adults take up alot of time with characters with little kids looking on, impatiently waiting for their once in a lifetime big chance. There may be a few people with reasons like your own but I highly doubt its the norm from what I've seen and heard. Yes, it can be fun to joke around with the characters, we do it too but not if little kids are waiting to meet their "real life" heros.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Perhaps I'm nieve, (actually I know I am, because everyone tells me so ) but why would anyone want to come up with a post that the sole purpose is to offend others?

 

[snowglobe girl]

...people that have nothing better to do...I for one 'hope' they are pulling our chain....but in a short response...

Me and DH have no children yet, but Disney is my favorite place in the world to go. I work with abused/neglected children at my job and witness horrible things every day, so Disney is my escape from reality. It is a fantasy world that I can forget about what I see at work. Me and DH love it and unfortunately, we can only go once a year but I wouldn't miss it for anything and would go more often if I lived closer and had the money...and when we decide to have children, we'll take them too.

We're not crazy obsessed people that jump in front of children to get autographs of Tigger, but if he is standing by himself, I'll go have my picture taken with him and don't feel bad about it. If I really want to see a parade, I park myself somewhere a half hour ahead of time with everyone else and wait to see it instead of waiting until the parade has started and push in front of people that have been waiting or gripe that I can't see....if I'm not sitting down so that others can have a view behind me, I let children stand in front of me so they can see...

AND...if my DH was taking a picture of me and someone jumped in it, we'd both be really PO'd too!! I pay the same admission to come into the parks and take the same pictures as people that have children...

but I still think someone posted that to get a rise out of everyone...and they succeeded.

 

[sters]

Originally posted by allie5

We were at DLP in Sept, and I have to admit to feeling slightly puzzled to why couples (especially twentysomethings) would bother to spend 45 mins of their vacation queuing to ride attractions like Dumbo, tea cups or the teeny little train! Older, childless couples were quite often observed pushing young kids aside so THEY could get a photo with Mickey. How do explain to a 4 and 2 year old why they have been pushed by an adult?

Now, looking ahead to when Im say, 60ish, yes, Im still gonna come to WDW. However, I will NOT be elbowing toddlers, or running down folk in a ECV!! Its all about respect. A lot of the kids are there for a one time only trip, I think frequent visitors can do a lot to enhance the experiences of folk less familiar with the parks. I hand out any unwanted FPs, always try to help someone looking puzzled with a map and if Im lucky enough to get a great spot for a parade, then I will always ask parents behind with little ones if they care for them to stand in front of me..

I used to be a 20 something standing in those lines with my husband and no kids. The best way to explain it is that riding rides like Peter Pan is a throwback to childhood! Just riding Dumbo reminds me of when I was a small child, because it sure isn't for the thrill of the ride. It's a tradition! And I guarantee that when I'm 60'sh, I will also be riding the kiddie rides. The character queues are another matter altogether. Didn't do it before kids and won't do it when they're grown. I'll just stick to character meals for my character interaction, thank you.

Disney isn't for everyone. It's meant for families to enjoy activites together and the young at heart to enjoy feeling like a kid again. It always saddens me to read the posts from childless people who clearly dislike the kids. They have the entire world to vacation in, why pick the one place that caters to children and then endlessly complain about them? Or why, as this poster suggests, shove a kid aside?

 

[Baloo]

A troll from Norway escaped!!...pretty funny Blueberry!!!

DisneyWorld IS for everyone...no matter how young or old...if ya want to stand in line for a character and you're an adult so what!! If it makes you happy and doesn't break any rules,then go for it!

I feel like when I step through the gates of any WDW park I've escaped from reality...if ya go into the parks with your heart filled with wonder the magic WILL find you despite the trolls that sneak in!!

 

[jiminycrick35]

First of all, contrary to alot of opinions, I did not post this message just to get a rise out of everyone, and I'm schocked by the amount of name calling and insults that were posted in reply by people who claimed to be filled with so much magic.

First of all, at no time did I say that Disneyworld should be just for people with kids, and I do apologize if thats the impression I gave, but I just think that children should come first, especially ones that might be there for their first and only trip. You know, I read in just about every reply about Disney being for everyone, but thats be real here. 1 week at a deluxe resort costs half as much as most people in this country make in a year, so in my opinion, a family with 3 kids that does not have the funds to go numerous times, (you know, one of the "poor unfortunate souls"),to avoid "going commando" should get some preferance over people who are there once a month. Let's face it, the average person has to be retired with no kids to afford to go multiple times a year.

Secondly, for all the people who posted how polite they are and let children ahead of them, that sounds very nice but I was just there and you are in a non-existent minority. Honestly, the only people who showed us that type of courteousy, had children of their own and could relate. To be middle aged and put yourself before a 6 year old to meet a person dressed up as Goofy, so you can try and relive your childhood, is ridiculous. Think about it.

And lastly, my main complaint was not a reference to people without kids not going to Disney, it was a response to all the complaints about the crowds. I'm kind of disturbed by the fact that someone with an opinion that is perceived as even remotely un-disney, (I love the comments about Disney not being for profit, and my need for a lecture from Walt himself), is attacked as almost un-American. It was a simple, logical statement.........if the same people weren't always there, there would be more room for other people. Thats all.

 

[cra-z-4-dizney]

Originally posted by jiminycrick35
.........if the same people weren't always there, there would be more room for other people. Thats all.

So let me get this straight...you are saying people should be limited to how many times they are "allowed" to go to Disney????? So because I can afford to go more then once a year I shouldn't to let someone else go???? If that were the case then we should limit the number of people everywhere...like the beach...every time I go to the beach it is so packed I can barely find a spot to lay my towel.

I have children and if I want them to be in the front of the parade route or fireworks or show then I get there early.

This thread doesn't make sense to me. If I want to stand in line to get an autograph from "some guy dressed as Goofy" then so be it....I would never push a kid out of the way to do it and if I were the last person to get an autograph before the character went in and there was a kid standing behind me I would let them go as I would hope many others would do. I would think in such a place as Walt Disney World there are more kind people then people who are going to run kids over with wheelchairs or cut in front of them to get an autograph.

I grew up VERY poor and was 22 before I went to Disney World for the first time so if I want to re-live the childhoood that I missed I don't see anything wrong with it and I am sorry if you do.

Here is some PIXIE-DUST maybe it will change your mind.

 

[Ted and Holly]

There is a broken end of an animatronic mechanism missing its body in Maelstrom.

I live 10 minutes away and I have an Annual Pass. Should I sell it? Have I used up my ration?