JonBenet Ramsey - Do you think her Mother murdered her?

The family was involved somehow. Either mom did it or little brother did it and the parents covered it up. Such a sad story.
 
All I can say is that I was TERRIFIED when this first happened as I had a niece who lived in Boulder who was only a couple of years older. My niece (now grown) was an incredibly beautiful child - much prettier than J.B. but without the beauty pageant crap. Just a normal kid.

Plus my brother was extremely prominent in Boulder and much wealthier than J.B.'s father so when they first talked about kidnapping and ransom, it scared me to death that my niece might have been a target. I have to admit that I felt relief when they stated that it was probably an inside job.

I think that beauty pageant stuff that she did was sick, sick, sick. I'm not saying that all of the contestants are like that as I don't know, but those tapes of her competing were repulsive.
 

ChristmasElf said:
She died a few days ago of Ovarian Cancer at age 49
Wow, how the heck did I miss that? I'm sure it was all over the news and somehow I missed it...
 
There was a time when I thought she may have because she was a former beauty queen and her daughter was a current beauty queen.

I kind of got rid of that theory though, and, while I think the mother knew what happened, or was protecting someone, I don't think she actually killed her. But I have never believed for a minute that it was a stranger breaking into that house. That child was killed by someone she knew.
 
I think the parents were guilty, but not of murder or even cover ups. I think they had a somewhat cold appearing demeanor, were superficial and overly focused on perfect appearances, even with their children. I'm not a fan of the pageant thing at all.

But I think these were the things that convicted them in the public eye. I really don't think any of the immediate family did it. I think it very possible that some creepy person they knew, possibly connected with the dad's work, seeing a picture of the overly beatified, overly matured little girl, and concocting a plan to steal all the wonderful things this family appeared to have. I can see the Ramsey's attitude rubbing some crazy, bitter, hateful person the wrong way enough to plant the seeds of a horrible plan.

Of course none of us know, because the evidence was so completely messed up. But this type of scenario makes the most sense in my mind. Incredibly sad story - whatever the truth is.

E.
 
I totally think the mom killed her.

If my daughter was killed by an intruder, I would cooperate with the police.

I wouldn't immediately hire a lawyer and a publicist before my child was even buried, and refuse to cooperate.
 
Redmic said:
I totally think the mom killed her.

If my daughter was killed by an intruder, I would cooperate with the police.

I wouldn't immediately hire a lawyer and a publicist before my child was even buried, and refuse to cooperate.

I haven't read too much into the case, but this is exactly what my dad (Phila. Police Detective for 35 years) always said. I always thought he made a good point.
 
Here is JonBenet a normal looking little girl:

jonbenet.jpg


This next one, WTH?

ramsey3.jpg
 
Why doesn't anyone suspect the father? Just curious....

And where is the brother now?

TIA!
 
I've always felt that Patsy Ramsey was responsible for her daughter's death, though I do also believe it was likely accidental and not planned or on purpose. She herself grew up in the pageant lifestyle and wanted the same for her daughter. To me that speaks of someone whose overall concern is about appearances and the facade of how things should appear. I bet it takes a lot to keep all those everyday frustrations we all experience inside all the time for appearances sake, particularly all the anger and uncertainty that usually goes hand in hand when dealing with a life-threatening illness. My opinion is she probably had quite a temper behind the closed doors of her home and I think she snapped and something regrettable happened resulting in her daughters death.
 
Blondie - thanks for posting - its obvoius that JB is gorgeous no matter what. I don't speculate who did what but have always felt that the family knew more.....


....as far as the pagent scene, who are any of us to say? Some of you are pushing your children academically, in sports etc....so what of she dolled her up? I'm not into pagents at all and the one thing my DD loves is makeup, beads, high heeled shoes!!
 
and that kid was a STUNNER - no doubt. With or without makeup and a hairdo, and please, most kids/adults need a whole heeping!
 
No, I don't think Patsy (or John or the brother) did it. But I think Patsy was partially responsible because she put her daughter out there for a sick pedophile to come and get her. I think Dateline was saying JB was in some Christmas parade a few weeks earlier, or something.

I think it was an outside job and comitted by somebody who works with John, or familiar enough with him to know intimate things.
 
I really don't know what happened and I bet we will never find out the truth.

When this first happened, I saw a program where they were interviewing a prominent judge. (It could've been Judge Judy - but I'm not sure) The interview got around to this case and she made a comment like "the only thing I will say is that parents will sometimes go to great lengths to protect their children."

From that, I thought maybe it was a coverup for the brother.

Now, years later, I guess I'm leaning more toward a "known" intruder. He might have been someone who worked with John and/or a close friend.

I heard Greta from Fox saying that there is no evidence that the brother did it and over time she no longer suspected Patsy. However, the bizarre note still perplexes her. (especially since it was rewritten and the first draft was thrown in the garbage)

I also agree that the evidence was compromised from the get go.

Why wasn't that house searched from top to bottom when the police arrived? I guess maybe they were going on the theory that it was a kidnapping and not a murder.
 
Unfortunately, the murder investigation was so bungled by the Boulder Police Department, I don't think we will ever know who did it. It is just unbelievable that on the morning after the murder the police officer assigned to stay with the family until more help arrived, allowed John Ramsey and his friend to wander around the house by themselves. As I understand it, it was the police officer that suggested that John and his friend check the house to see if anything had been disturbed.

Perhaps if John had not found the body and disturbed the crime scene, evidence would have been found which would have led to the identification of the murderer. As it is, I don't think we will ever know for sure who killed that beautiful little girl.


I certainly don't believe in entering little girls in pageants, but I don't necessarily think that makes her parents murderers. The evidence is just so baffling-that wacky note makes you think it was an inside job, but there is also evidence to suggest that an intruder may have broken into the house. With regard to Burke, I have never heard of actual evidence which suggests that he committed the murder.

The fact that this murder will probably always remain unsolved is truly heartbreaking.
 
Blondie said:
Here is JonBenet a normal looking little girl:

jonbenet.jpg


This next one, WTH?

ramsey3.jpg
She looks so adorable in the first picture. She would be almost 16 if she had lived.
 
I've always tried to watch the specials on the murder etc...but I don't remember seeing "why" the investigation seemed to get off on the wrong foot from the get go....?

Even thought the town was not used to anything like that don't you think that because they were a prominent family with money that every step would be taken?

It is such a shame....I truly believe that the family knew and knows something. I don't have a super large home, but I couldn't imagine being in the home and something happening to a member of my family and no one else hearing it. I can see where large homes and those with basements, etc would be easy but wow...


It is a shame that this will never be solved.
 
The "why" the investigation was so poor was not due to this specific family being so wealthy but rather the very wealthy community where things like this didn't happen. I remember seeing a special about the murder and the narrator specifying this was the first murder in a great many years. These cops were not at all prepared for a crime scene like this - especially at Christmas when even police departments are low on staff.

As far as who. Someone in the family. There is a reason why the police suspect family almost immediately. It's because they're usually the ones who do it. There's too much circumstantial evidence, and contrary to popular tv and movies, circumstantial evidence is not bad. Something terrible happened in that house and the parents know about it.
 















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