Jon&Kate plus 8

[alexandria674]

Jon Gosselin is setting the record straight, releasing a statement that reads

“It is certainly hurtful for people to spread rumors and lies about us. It certainly makes me reluctant to live my life like the average person would. This has made it very clear that the simplest innocent gesture -— such as taking a picture with a fan, can be taken out of context. As you can see on the show, I am not perfect, but I am a part of a loving family and couple.”

Ummm, most average people don't have TLC following them around everyday and aren't TV personalities. Also, I don't think that the average man/husband/father who is 30+ is drinking at college parties or putting himself in these types of situations. Maybe he should try average, may find out it isn't so bad and even good for his marriage/family.

Good point!

 

[disney_family_1247]

I may get flamed but here goes....





wow. I understand that everyone has their opinions on Jon and Kate but to criticize an innocent child? That's pretty heartless especially since you don't know what's going on behind closed doors. She MAY have a MEDICAL REASON she acts the way she does. Or perhaps the stress of having 7 brothers and sisters gets to be a bit much sometimes. Every kid processes things different some better than others.
Plus, as parents you can do everything by the book and discipline as much as you can and sometimes it just comes down to the temperment of your kids. There are the easy going ones and then the more head-strong difficult ones. You do the best you can.

The children are innocent-have a heart and leave them out of the debate.

I totally agree. It cannot be easy for that child to be one of so many that came all at once.

As far as the parents, I used to think that the mom was just really rude to the dad, but now she's like that to her own children too. Does she not realize that she wouldn't be famous without them? The bit with her refusing to allow her kids a say in naming their puppies was it for me. Kids are people too, and she shows no respect for them.

 

[lacrosse_lady72]

I may get flamed but here goes....





wow. I understand that everyone has their opinions on Jon and Kate but to criticize an innocent child? That's pretty heartless especially since you don't know what's going on behind closed doors. She MAY have a MEDICAL REASON she acts the way she does. Or perhaps the stress of having 7 brothers and sisters gets to be a bit much sometimes. Every kid processes things different some better than others.
Plus, as parents you can do everything by the book and discipline as much as you can and sometimes it just comes down to the temperment of your kids. There are the easy going ones and then the more head-strong difficult ones. You do the best you can.

The children are innocent-have a heart and leave them out of the debate.

I COMPLETELY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!! I lose ALL respect for anyone who says anything negative about Mady (I am assuming this is the twin we're talking about since Cara hardly says anything)... or any child for that matter. Mady to me is just passionate about life, she knows what she wants and lets people know what is up. I have seen other people on other blog calling her the b word which automatically makes me think of how classless they must be.

She's a child!!!!! Talk trash all you want about Jon and Kate but leave the kids out of it.

 

[lacrosse_lady72]

Yeah I think its time for the show to move on. I do watch it but only because I feel for the kids ...

I remember the episode where they moved into the new house and she yelled at Jon for not using a coupon. She kept saying *what is the rule, you give me the reciepts ALL receipts* I was like WOW

I hope the rumors arent true for the kids sake!

I disagree with this, and I think I am in the minority but it's his fault to me. I think it was a moronic move on his part... Kate makes the rules pretty clear as we all know so he should have known.

It would be very frustrating to me to have to constantly have to remind someone of a simple rule.

 

[MickeyMomOfThree]

I make rules for my kids, I don't set rules for my husband. If I treated my DH like that he'd laugh in my face as he should. He's an adult, I can't imagine telling him "these are the rules". I am cheap too, but the value of the coupon is not nearly the value of my husband's feelings and pride...

 

[Mouse House Mama]

I COMPLETELY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!! I lose ALL respect for anyone who says anything negative about Mady (I am assuming this is the twin we're talking about since Cara hardly says anything)... or any child for that matter. Mady to me is just passionate about life, she knows what she wants and lets people know what is up. I have seen other people on other blog calling her the b word which automatically makes me think of how classless they must be.

She's a child!!!!! Talk trash all you want about Jon and Kate but leave the kids out of it.

I agree that it is very sad that anyone talks about a child. I no longer watch the show because I do not like the way Kate treats everyone. The issue I have have regarding the Maddy is not Maddy. It is Jon and Kate. They never set a limit for that child. So of course she is going to act out. She has no limits. You can't fault a child for that. I wish they would wake up and realize that. I can't imagine any parent okay with filming their kids and having people lament about what a brat their kid is (like others do) and not care. I thought it was interesting for one or two episodes but after that I thought it was disgusting how they will film anything to get their show. I blame those parents for it all. Those kids did not ask for this.

 

[jms531]

I just have to say that I am completely amazed that amidst rumors (they could all be fake but for the sake of argument...) of a 30 some year old married man with 8 children out at a college party getting drunk and cheating on his wife, the majority STILL want to point the finger at his wife or list the many reasons why if you had to deal with _____ you'd do it too.
In my eyes, there's NO excuse for cheating. And if your husband/wife is SO bad then you need to get a divorce before you start screwing around.
Also, I don't think you can judge the quality of a couples relationship by how they act in a set-up interview with questions designed to spark a fight. Also the nitpicking, teasing etc. may just be the way their relationship works. DH and I will call the other out when we do something stupid and tend to tease each other/nitpick a lot. It's the way our relationship is-it keeps it interesting for us and I think inevitable when you have two people with very strong personalities. We very seldom are actually mad at each other-just enjoy the banter back and forth- but I'm not sure an outsider would understand that.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

I just have to say that I am completely amazed that amidst rumors (they could all be fake but for the sake of argument...) of a 30 some year old married man with 8 children out at a college party getting drunk and cheating on his wife, the majority STILL want to point the finger at his wife or list the many reasons why if you had to deal with _____ you'd do it too.
In my eyes, there's NO excuse for cheating. And if your husband/wife is SO bad then you need to get a divorce before you start screwing around.
Also, I don't think you can judge the quality of a couples relationship by how they act in a set-up interview with questions designed to spark a fight. Also the nitpicking, teasing etc. may just be the way their relationship works. DH and I will call the other out when we do something stupid and tend to tease each other/nitpick a lot. It's the way our relationship is-it keeps it interesting for us and I think inevitable when you have two people with very strong personalities. We very seldom are actually mad at each other-just enjoy the banter back and forth- but I'm not sure an outsider would understand that.

Oh I don't think it is right at all if he is cheating on her. I think that is disgusting if he is. I don't agree with her treatment of anybody. Not just Jon. She also needs to keep her hands to herself. If Jon was smacking her around like she does to him and calling it love taps I can guarantee there would be an uproar. My dh and I have a sick sense of humor with each other that I am sure most people wouldn't get but Kate isn't really a kidder type. She also has a problem with hitting people.

 

[Steph9072]

I just have to say that I am completely amazed that amidst rumors (they could all be fake but for the sake of argument...) of a 30 some year old married man with 8 children out at a college party getting drunk and cheating on his wife, the majority STILL want to point the finger at his wife or list the many reasons why if you had to deal with _____ you'd do it too.
In my eyes, there's NO excuse for cheating. And if your husband/wife is SO bad then you need to get a divorce before you start screwing around.
Also, I don't think you can judge the quality of a couples relationship by how they act in a set-up interview with questions designed to spark a fight. Also the nitpicking, teasing etc. may just be the way their relationship works. DH and I will call the other out when we do something stupid and tend to tease each other/nitpick a lot. It's the way our relationship is-it keeps it interesting for us and I think inevitable when you have two people with very strong personalities. We very seldom are actually mad at each other-just enjoy the banter back and forth- but I'm not sure an outsider would understand that.

Great point there is no excuse for cheating. Period end of discussion. IF Jon did cheat it is on him 100% because he made that choice.

 

[DISNEYNV]

Speaking of hitting... On I last new episode i watched when they said goodbye to their old house I noticed Jon looked a little beat up. Anyone else notice during the interview session this face and eye looked puffy and there was a large red spot on his forehead?

 

[MickeyMomOfThree]

I personally was commenting on the divorce rumor. I commented on him going out on a different thread that was referencing that. I would never say that any man is justified cheating, if that's what he was doing. That's not the issue we were talking about here.

 

[billwendy]

I really hope that this isnt true at all - they need to stick together for their kids and for themselves - they just redid their vows, and hopefully they will stay true to them.

We also have to remember, those cameras are running all the time, and they tend to show us what would be good TV....which could by why we see kate so crazy all the time - those kids seem to love their parents, so i really dont think she is like that all the time - its just what they show us! what would your tv show look like? mine wouldnt always be peaceful perfect paradise!!!

 

[mom of princessx2]

Speaking of hitting... On I last new episode i watched when they said goodbye to their old house I noticed Jon looked a little beat up. Anyone else notice during the interview session this face and eye looked puffy and there was a large red spot on his forehead?

Can we say Botox.. I think they both are looking far to awake for having 8 children and the schedule they keep. And Jon looks to have had a bit too much.

As far as rumors go I do not think he is cheating but the role reversal is evident. We can now see Kate gone a lot more and Jon responsible for getting the kids off to school and playing with them (not that Kate has ever really played with the kids) That can be a tremendous strain on a marriage. Now add twins, sextuplets and a camera crew......that spells disaster to me.

 

[lacrosse_lady72]

I agree that it is very sad that anyone talks about a child. I no longer watch the show because I do not like the way Kate treats everyone. The issue I have have regarding the Maddy is not Maddy. It is Jon and Kate. They never set a limit for that child. So of course she is going to act out. She has no limits. You can't fault a child for that. I wish they would wake up and realize that. I can't imagine any parent okay with filming their kids and having people lament about what a brat their kid is (like others do) and not care. I thought it was interesting for one or two episodes but after that I thought it was disgusting how they will film anything to get their show. I blame those parents for it all. Those kids did not ask for this.

I agree. I feel so bad for Mady, I really detest Jon and Kate but I love those kids so much, that's what keeps me watching, which sadly helps to keep the parent's wallet full.

I just think since no one really pays attention to her, she has to throw fits in order for her mom to notice her. When was the last time we saw either parent do a one on one with Mady- even Cara gets quality time with Jon. It makes me so sad. I wish Kate would realize she has 7 other children besides Hannah and Jon has 6 other children besides Joel and Cara.

 

[chocovrdmicears]

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I just think since no one really pays attention to her, she has to throw fits in order for her mom to notice her. When was the last time we saw either parent do a one on one with Mady- even Cara gets quality time with Jon. It makes me so sad. I wish Kate would realize she has 7 other children besides Hannah and Jon has 6 other children besides Joel and Cara.

As a mother of a 7 year old DD I totally agree with this. 7 year old girls can be tough under the best of circumstances...moody, crabby for no reason, sweet one minute, crying the next, etc... I find at this age my DD7 craves extra attention but really needs her privacy & some space as well. With Mom & Dad being 'famous ) and cameras on them all the time it seems impossible for her to emotionally handle it all. From they way they are portrayed on the show, the twins don't get nearly as much attention as the 'little kids' do. I see her 'fits' as emotional cries for help/attention. It breaks my heart.
As far as Jon & Kate go, I truly believe they both gave up the right to walk away just because things are tough between them. They owe it to their children to do whatever they need to do to stay together. They knew when they had twins and sextuplets they were going to have a long difficult road in front of them...then they chose to add a reality show to the mix! Seriously, am I the only person that sees what 'reality show exposure' can do to people and relationships? What did they expect? It's like people who go on Survivor, then complain they are hungry and cold after two days?

 

[MickeyMomOfThree]

As a mother of a 7 year old DD I totally agree with this. 7 year old girls can be tough under the best of circumstances...moody, crabby for no reason, sweet one minute, crying the next, etc... I find at this age my DD7 craves extra attention but really needs her privacy & some space as well. With Mom & Dad being 'famous ) and cameras on them all the time it seems impossible for her to emotionally handle it all. From they way they are portrayed on the show, the twins don't get nearly as much attention as the 'little kids' do. I see her 'fits' as emotional cries for help/attention. It breaks my heart.
As far as Jon & Kate go, I truly believe they both gave up the right to walk away just because things are tough between them. They owe it to their children to do whatever they need to do to stay together. They knew when they had twins and sextuplets they were going to have a long difficult road in front of them...then they chose to add a reality show to the mix! Seriously, am I the only person that sees what 'reality show exposure' can do to people and relationships? What did they expect? It's like people who go on Survivor, then complain they are hungry and cold after two days?

I totally get what you are saying. That's why I can't figure out this new family they are making a show with, did they not watch J&K8? They may be a different family, maybe a srtonger family, but why risk it? Just my opinion...

 

[disneymarie]

I just noticed this week after the last season episode airs starts 12 at the table. Three sets of multiples. I think it said 2 sets of twins and sextuplets.

Maybe that is the rumor, the ad states after the season final episode, and someone could have twisted it to say they show is final the new one is replacing it
No way would he leave and have to find a real job or three to keep the support and the home going.

i am looking forward to see the dynamics of this new family show. 18 and counting is too much like a not cult, but sect type for me.

I like Amy on little people, her dh is frustrating and too much a risk taker for me to relax and enjoy. I felt so bad when he remodeled the home and fell short on cash and the crews were gone and they had bedlem all that time.

 

[geishagirl81]

Kate drives me nuts, but I think people come down on her to hard with Jon. My DH do NOT have a lovey-dovey marriage. We tease and nit-pick, and we are very happy together. I think her smacks are too much, yes. But I also can sympathize with her on Jon. He'd drive me nuts too, he seems clueless and just as self-centered sometimes. But then, I guess I wouldn't yell at him like she does. I am not pleading Kate's case, it is just that the reasons she drives me nuts are because of her parenting.

Maybe if she didn't spend all of her time whining about her "hard" life and worrying about messes, she could better discipline and teach ALL of her kids. Maddy needs discipline, that girl is "spirited", yes, but she needs to know that her behavior isn't always acceptable, no matter what. And the rest of the kids could use some enrichment, but in past epidodes, Kate always seemed reluctant to do hands-on activities with them becasue of the mess. So the kids are behind in using scissors (she said it herself) and other things, but at least they will know how to stay clean!?!? At least with Jon as the stay-at-home parent that he seems to be now, the kids seem more relaxed and engaged. There is no way Kate would have taken them into the woods for nature hike like Jon did.

It is sad that there life is a circus now. I hope the show is cancelled soon. I saw there first special on tv today, and it is so obvious how much they have changed. In that special, she and Jon sat close together and seemed happy. Now they both roll their eyes and act as though they'd both rather be in anywhere else than on that couch together. So sad.

 

[DisneyFam1]

I agree, they need to step out of the spot light for their family and get it together. I used to love the show, but really am no longer a fan. They have exploited their children to get what they have. Poor Maddie (the child everyone calls a "brat") is acting out in order to get some attention, even if it is negative attention she is still getting some sort of feedback from mom or dad.

If this were just a J&K thread, I wouldn't have much to say. But since the kids are receiving comments I feel inclined to say something.

As a parent of a daughter with very similar behavior to Maddie, I find it unfair to use any labels to define her behavior without considering underlying factors. If mom is "OCD" as alot of people have come to believe, Maddie could be dealing with similar emotional or mental health issues as well.

It took us seven years to get a diagnosis of Anxiety Disorder with Mood Disorder for our daughter. Before the diagnosis, we couldn't understand why our daughter became upset over the tiniest things - often times overreacting emotionally and physically. We thought she was just acting out as well. Even after beginning counseling, it took another two years before we finally consented to meds. It wasn't until then that we began to see the child within the tantrums. Believe me, it is challenging to parent a child like this (or to watch someone else parent a child like this) - it is even more challenging to be the child.

Before I get lynched, I'm not suggesting that any of these kids need medication. I only as that people give the kids some slack and compassion. I hope people will consider this and reserve judgment.

 

[alexandria674]

If this were just a J&K thread, I wouldn't have much to say. But since the kids are receiving comments I feel inclined to say something.

As a parent of a daughter with very similar behavior to Maddie, I find it unfair to use any labels to define her behavior without considering underlying factors. If mom is "OCD" as alot of people have come to believe, Maddie could be dealing with similar emotional or mental health issues as well.

It took us seven years to get a diagnosis of Anxiety Disorder with Mood Disorder for our daughter. Before the diagnosis, we couldn't understand why our daughter became upset over the tiniest things - often times overreacting emotionally and physically. We thought she was just acting out as well. Even after beginning counseling, it took another two years before we finally consented to meds. It wasn't until then that we began to see the child within the tantrums. Believe me, it is challenging to parent a child like this (or to watch someone else parent a child like this) - it is even more challenging to be the child.

Before I get lynched, I'm not suggesting that any of these kids need medication. I only as that people give the kids some slack and compassion. I hope people will consider this and reserve judgment.

Maybe you have a point. I do not think Mady needs medication, but I do think that maybe she needs a place to vent out her frustration. I mean, sometimes I feel Mady feel frustrated because she may not know how to form the words around her emotions or a outlet that she can stick to. I mean, something for her alone that is not shared by another child.