Jon and Kate Plus 8. Official Thread!!

[Camster0307]

Isn't that on the Food Network? J&K+8 is on TLC.

I believe you're right about that; but it was really weird because the guide on my Tivo was listing Essence of Emeril on TLC from 9-10pm.

And, as far as the kids' speech; regardless, I've never heard Jon or Kate "baby talk" to them. Actually, I'm always quite impressed that Kate speaks very clearly and directly to them when given instructions or asking questions.

 

[AprilShowers]

I believe you're right about that; but it was really weird because the guide on my Tivo was listing Essence of Emeril on TLC from 9-10pm.

OT, I know but I thought I heard somewhere that Emeril was cancelled on Food Network and was being picked up somewhere else. Maybe it was TLC?

 

[Desnik]

My husband watches this show. All I can say is I love kids but I wouldnt last 1 hour in a house that crazy. I barely made it though toddlerhood with my 3, I can't imagine 6 kids that age all at once. And if they are close to 4 why don't they talk better? My husband says they are 2 but if they are 4 they should be talking much better then the show I saw about church and a picnic. I wonder if they are getting enough verbal interaction. I always talked to my kids like they were humans and they have such a big vocabulary, even when they were litter they talked very well and knew all sorts of words. I never talked baby talk to them.

I talked to my DS like "he is human" an never any baby talk and guess what, he had a speech delay. A lot of preemies have delays in some areas.(DS was a preemie) It is not uncommon at all for multiples to have speech issues, as well as other issues requiring OT, PT.
DS had to also have OT. DD, who is 5 years older than DS was also talked to the same way DS was and she had a hug vocabulary and talked full sentences at a very young age, way before what is "normal". I think you have a huge misconception on why kids have speech problems/issues/delays.

 

[disneychrista]

Isn't that on the Food Network? J&K+8 is on TLC.

Yeah but it was listed at 9pm on TLC right after 12 hours of Jon & Kate. Thought it was odd but ....

After seeing the episode, no where other than the title and the "calander" screen shot was it mentioned to be memorial day. I did find it funny that they were all wear Red, White &/or Blue though.

 

[MrsPete]

I saw part of it one time. I cannot believe how poorly that woman treats her husband!

She IS mean to her husband! And her kids! Something that I couldn't help noticing: She NEVER gives the kids instructions on what to do -- instead, she just lets them run around willy-nilly, and then she yells at everyone. Even if they are very young, they're old enough to follow simple, one-step instructions.

 

[FergieTCat]

I have a question that shows I am paying way too much attention ...

Did anyone else notice in the opening credits that they used to say "Mady" but now they say "Madelyn"? I wonder why. Did they ever mention it?

(As for Emeril, I have no idea about the DVR. It was just an idea).

 

[Camster0307]

She IS mean to her husband! And her kids! Something that I couldn't help noticing: She NEVER gives the kids instructions on what to do -- instead, she just lets them run around willy-nilly, and then she yells at everyone. Even if they are very young, they're old enough to follow simple, one-step instructions.

Not sure what episode you're referring to - but I don't see those kids running around "willy-nilly". I see them playing like typical 4 yr.olds; but I applaud Kate - I think she's very organized and the kids are well behaved. For instance, I'm constantly amazed how easily they go to the corner when they are punished for something. And Jon joked last night that the kids will sit there until they're told to get up even when they "forget".

 

[Kycha]

I believe you're right about that; but it was really weird because the guide on my Tivo was listing Essence of Emeril on TLC from 9-10pm.

It was listed on tvguide.com as Essence of Emeril too. I missed the show at 9 because of it. I watched the rerun at midnight.

And, as far as the kids' speech; regardless, I've never heard Jon or Kate "baby talk" to them. Actually, I'm always quite impressed that Kate speaks very clearly and directly to them when given instructions or asking questions.

Thanks Camster...I was going to say the same thing. I don't hear Jon or Kate using baby talk around the kids either. And as a pp stated...all kids develop differently.

Yeah but it was listed at 9pm on TLC right after 12 hours of Jon & Kate. Thought it was odd but ....

After seeing the episode, no where other than the title and the "calander" screen shot was it mentioned to be memorial day. I did find it funny that they were all wear Red, White &/or Blue though.

I wonder if they combined footage from different days. It was definitely right before Mother's Day when they were at church. But, later in the show, Kate mentioned something about it being summer. Plus, I don't recall the weather being nice the weekend before Mother's Day. It seems to have rained here every weekend(except this past weekend) for the last month. I don't know, it was very confusing.

Oh, another thing...a previous poster mentioned their church being an hour away. I had heard that Kate's dad was a preacher. I wonder if that is the church they attend

 

[barkley]

It was listed on tvguide.com as Essence of Emeril too. I missed the show at 9 because of it. I watched the rerun at midnight.

Thanks Camster...I was going to say the same thing. I don't hear Jon or Kate using baby talk around the kids either. And as a pp stated...all kids develop differently.




I wonder if they combined footage from different days. It was definitely right before Mother's Day when they were at church. But, later in the show, Kate mentioned something about it being summer. Plus, I don't recall the weather being nice the weekend before Mother's Day. It seems to have rained here every weekend(except this past weekend) for the last month. I don't know, it was very confusing.

Oh, another thing...a previous poster mentioned their church being an hour away. I had heard that Kate's dad was a preacher. I wonder if that is the church they attend

i don't think that's her dad's church-he's listed as assistant pastor on the alliance church of elizabethtown website which i don't think was the church they showed them attending last nite. kate also said they joined that particular church after the babies were born because they did'nt feel their previous church could accommodate their childcare needs (during services), she also said something about them liking that that church because nobody bothers them and they 'leave us alone'

i dunno, i can sympathize with toddlers tossing a fit when you drop them off into a childcare setting (been there, been through that) but when kate said that the one little girl always gets so upset that she vomits every time they attend church that just did'nt sit right with me. the kids don't seem to have this huge separation issue when they are left with their regular care providers so i have to wonder what the deal is with the church daycare-you would think that if they had as kate said, been attending since the little ones were infants, it would'nt be an issue that evokes physical illness. maybe they don't attend regularly so it's not a familiar setting for them? she said something about mady and kara previously attending preschool at that church and that the babies would as well-but realy, even if i loved a church i can't imagine traveling 4 hours every day to facilitate preschool (1 hour each way there and back for drop off and pick up).

 

[emer95]

i dunno, i can sympathize with toddlers tossing a fit when you drop them off into a childcare setting (been there, been through that) but when kate said that the one little girl always gets so upset that she vomits every time they attend church that just did'nt sit right with me. the kids don't seem to have this huge separation issue when they are left with their regular care providers so i have to wonder what the deal is with the church daycare

Actually, we've seen several of the girls get so upset that they vomit when their regular sitters come- Nana Janet, for one.

 

[MoniqueU]

Thank you for saying this so much nicer than I was about to.
I commented to DH last night about a few things I expected to see Kate blasted for on this thread. However I never imagined that Jon and Kate would be accused of neglecting/hindering the kids verbal development, and/or not interacting with the verbally.

I wasn't accusing anyone of anything. I only watched the show once. I don't have ill feelings towards anyone. It was just a glaring observation I made. And I do believe there is a direct correlation between the way to you talk to your children and the way they speak. But I didn't know they were preemies so that makes sense. I also believe there is a big correlation between how much you read to your kids and how well they pick up reading and enjoy it in future years. Again these are generalities and there are exceptions to the idea but I do believe talking to and reading to your children is very important.

 

[Camster0307]

Bumping up this thread to hopefully overshadow the other "nasty" one.

Just finished watching the Memorial Day show. I cannot imagine having to keep an eye on eight kids in a playground! I remember how hard it was to keep track of my one!

And it's always so sweet to see the kids apologize to each other after they've fought. I think Jon and Kate have done a good job in getting them to hug, kiss, and look each other in the eye and say "I'm sorry!" They don't put up much a fuss about doing it.

 

[bebelle]

Bumping up this thread to hopefully overshadow the other "nasty" one.

Thank you! I started to read the other one and stopped when I realized how venomous it was! I love the show and refuse to hear/read anything negative about it!

 

[Camster0307]

Welcome back to the good vibes!

I don't mind hearing different opinions; but I want no part of listening to people being judged for their lifestyle or the choices they have made.

So I don't care what others say either - my DDs and I will continue to watch and will be sad when the show eventually ends.

 

[mickeyboat]

Thanks for bumping this thread back up. I needed it!

I don't care if people don't like the show. I don't care that people don't like how Kate parents. I don't care if they say so. But I don't want my parenting skills to be challenged by a troll who has some sort of agenda. We can disagree and still be respectful towards one another.

Sorry to have been taken by the troll!

Denae

 

[minniebeth]

Welcome back to the good vibes!

I don't mind hearing different opinions; but I want no part of listening to people being judged for their lifestyle or the choices they have made.

So I don't care what others say either - my DDs and I will continue to watch and will be sad when the show eventually ends.

You mean we don't get to see them grow up forever? We'll miss their proms, weddings and everything? We'll be sad too. My DDs love this show and think all the kids are just SO adorable. I think we will forever wonder what their lives are like!

 

[barkley]

Actually, we've seen several of the girls get so upset that they vomit when their regular sitters come- Nana Janet, for one.

i don't ever recall this-i also don't ever remember either of the nana's ever doing childcare. if memory serves me right they help with the laundry and household stuff. until jody started taking the kids it seemed like it was the sitters or beth

but if this did happen it would concern me even more. it's one thing if a child in a non regular environment gets so upset about separating from their parent that they become physicaly ill-but if it's happening with any kind of separation it's either a means of manipulating their parent (and if it has'nt worked-it's become a habit) or there is real anxiety. i have to imagine since they talked of the kids going to preschool this could become a big issue. most places will send a kid home for 24 hours if they vomit on site, but if it's seen to be an anxiety issue some will try for a short time to correct the behaviour but without fairly quick resolution they'll terminate the child feeling they don't have the coping skills as yet to be in that setting (just as jon and kate said that they felt the kids 'fed' into each other with their tears and such at separating, even one child that continualy does this within a daycare or preschool setting can set off a chain reaction with the other participants-i know, i had one student in a 4/5 year old group i taught when she got wound up it stirred up emotions and anxieties with the others and i could end up with most of a classroom sobbing that they wanted to go home too ).

i think it would be realy good for these kids to be in a preschool setting. one thing that does happen with multiples and launguage development is they adapt and reinforce each other's misproununciations. being around other kids of the same age can help correct improper speech patterns so something like one's pronunciation of alligator as 'aggigator' does'nt become the accepted pronunciation among them all (which seems to have happened).

 

[mickeyboat]

I do think they need to work on the day care behavior - it looks like there has been some positive reinforcement of negative behavior over time, and there needs to be some sort of intervention to stop it (possibly a reward system). I don't know - but as far as I am concerned, it is no different than some of the negative behaviors I see from my kids, KWIM?

Preschool will be really good for them. I also think that short periods of separation from one another would be good for them too. I have DD's in the same grade and they are completely different children when they are separated.

Denae

 

[minniebeth]

A lof of times the vomiting comes from a gag reflex from the crying...
I know my DD did this quite often when she cried for whatever reason and the Dr. told us this would get better as she grew, and it did, but she still has a sensitive gag reflex. I taught preschool and I was aware this was true for some other children as well.
From the show, it's hard to tell if she is vomiting from crying hard or ill from the stomach because she is so upset.
Just something to think about...

It will be interesting to see that when they do go to preschool if they will be all kept together or partly separated....

 

[lucas]

i don't ever recall this-i also don't ever remember either of the nana's ever doing childcare. if memory serves me right they help with the laundry and household stuff. until jody started taking the kids it seemed like it was the sitters or beth

Nana Janet did sit with some or all of the little kids in the kid's home. I remember her making a tent for the boys and then taking them out of it because, I believe, they were hitting each other.