Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

[DMRick]

When I thought he said it, it was way after he had drinks on the show. It was once they separated, when he was behaving a bit wild. Does anyone remember that? Again, he may not have said it..maybe it was someone on this board.

What I was saying is that if he had made such a promise, since he did indeed drink wine on the show, the hater sites would have been all over it.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

When I thought he said it, it was way after he had drinks on the show. It was once they separated, when he was behaving a bit wild. Does anyone remember that? Again, he may not have said it..maybe it was someone on this board.

Hmmm....I have cobwebs in my brain and a baby in my belly. I have no idea.

 

[madge]

I guess I am not seeing the issue.

no issue, other than Kate's repeated insistence that she's taking the high road.

doesn't sound like that tonight at all.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

no issue, other than Kate's repeated insistence that she's taking the high road.

doesn't sound like that tonight at all.

Taking the high road doesn't always mean that one has to remain silent.

If it involves the kids directly, rather than just her disdain towards Jon--I guess I don't see the issue.

I don't really want to watch the whole episode to find out though. I'm Jon and kated out.

 

[DMRick]

no issue, other than Kate's repeated insistence that she's taking the high road.

doesn't sound like that tonight at all.

Based on her mentioning that he's on the phone a lot? Or saying she misses the Jon who would roll on the floor and play? That's the low road? I guess Jon could have had his say, if he showed up for taping

That said, they both should turn the phone off when it's supposed to be kid time. Business or fun.

 

[madge]

I don't really want to watch the whole episode to find out though. I'm Jon and kated out.

agreed!

 

[DMRick]

I don't really want to watch the whole episode to find out though. I'm Jon and kated out.

If you don't watch it, you won't get to see what we'll be talking about

 

[madge]

Taking the high road doesn't always mean that one has to remain silent.

but Kate has given the impression that remaining silent is what she was doing.

If it involves the kids directly, rather than just her disdain towards Jon--I guess I don't see the issue.

I watched ET right after I posted the link, Kate is definitely snarky for the sake of being snarky, which is definitely not the high road.

 

[madge]

more legal paperwork ...

apparently, TLC wants to have something (the contract?) sealed. This is Jon's counterclaim to that:

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/GosselinSealedReq.pdf

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

more legal paperwork ...

apparently, TLC wants to have something (the contract?) sealed. This is Jon's counterclaim to that:

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/GosselinSealedReq.pdf

Okay--my laptop doesn't want to cooperate and let me read that file. I got a glimpse of a few paragraphs and gave up...

So my response is conditional on what the counterclaim says:

I agree in principle with Jon. I don't feel that TLC has the right to seal the document to any investigative authorities IF and only IF the contract content is pertinent to the case. I.e. The contract does nothing to prove that TLC didn't obtain permits. If PA doesn't have them on file, they don't.

The contract COULD prove if TLC accepted or designated responsibity of those permits. So keeping the contract sealed could harm Jon and Kate if TLC stated they were taking care of anything.

I disagree that the contract should be made a matter of public record. It is not something that needs to be seen and it could adversely impact TLC's other contracts with other documentary subjects. If those contracts have legal issues, or if those subjects wish to negotiate more favorable terms, that is between those parties, TLC and the laws that govern the state that filming takes place.

If necessary, those particular cases can take it to court and subpoena for access to the Gosseline contract, but it is rather irrelevant.

I do not feel that TLC can keep the contract as privileged information from Jon's attorneys and I am not sure if the Dept of Labor really needs to see the contracts since there have been no paystubs or direct deposits to the Gosseline children (and really the counter claim is not the avenue to force the contract to be an open record to the state of PA.)

Gee--I have lots of opinions for not being able to read the entire counterclaim.

I agree with the principle of the contract being made availabe b/c it would be nonsense to argue the case without the tangible contract.

I do not agree that it necessitates being public record as many times corporations have been permitted to keep documents if not an entire case sealed to protect their corporate interests.

Folks may not like TLC--but there is no reason to ruin a company just for the sake of doing so and they are entitled to protect their interests if they can an that would include keeping the contract private from competitors and from other talent/subjects within their own programming.

Of course the judge may disagree with me and he would know more than me.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

but Kate has given the impression that remaining silent is what she was doing.



I watched ET right after I posted the link, Kate is definitely snarky for the sake of being snarky, which is definitely not the high road.

I heard no snark in her voice.

I also never got the impression that she would remain "silent".

I had presumed that she would take the high road and not be condsecendingly rude to her spouse and say mean and spiteful things about him.

I never assumed that she in stating she would take the high road, was claiming she would never say another word about Jon. That would most certainly end in failure and would be impossible and unfair to expect of anyone in such a circumstance.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

If you don't watch it, you won't get to see what we'll be talking about

I'll be like Kate and pretend I know everything.


That's okay--I just cannot watch a demise. It's fine to watch an interview--but I can't watcha demise. Of course the show has been on this path for a while, but it just really took a turn for me and I can't watch.

On the phone talk--I do find it funny and ironic, that though Kate wasn't ON her phone, she was carrying it in that earklier photo of taking the trash to the curb.

 

[madge]

I heard no snark in her voice.

I also never got the impression that she would remain "silent".

I had presumed that she would take the high road and not be condsecendingly rude to her spouse and say mean and spiteful things about him.

I never assumed that she in stating she would take the high road, was claiming she would never say another word about Jon. That would most certainly end in failure and would be impossible and unfair to expect of anyone in such a circumstance.

there was a leash comment that was uncalled for, IMO...

 

[madge]

On the phone talk--I do find it funny and ironic, that though Kate wasn't ON her phone, she was carrying it in that earklier photo of taking the trash to the curb.

there are about a million pics of both Jon and Kate on their phones. that shouldn't even be a topic of conversation for them, LOLOL.... one is no better than the other!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

there was a leash comment that was uncalled for, IMO...

In the link you provided? I must have missed that. Not saying it wasn't there...but I didn't hear it.

 

[redrosesix]

What!? You just started today and you're already on Page 4?! I see I have some reading to do -- I'll get back to you when I've caught up

 

[C.Ann]

but Kate has given the impression that remaining silent is what she was doing.

I watched ET right after I posted the link, Kate is definitely snarky for the sake of being snarky, which is definitely not the high road.

there was a leash comment that was uncalled for, IMO...

there are about a million pics of both Jon and Kate on their phones. that shouldn't even be a topic of conversation for them, LOLOL.... one is no better than the other!

Just more of poor Kate playing the "victim".. The "woe is me" is getting very, very old - not to mention the bias that is so obvious when it comes to discussing Kate's actions vs. Jon's actions..

Unless Jon "caves" and agrees to let the children be filmed again, the Gosselin's and the discussions of them are going to become nothing more than a very distant, very ugly memory for me..

I'm done watching J&K - done with J&K completely.. Christmas is coming and it's time for me to focus on enjoying the really fun threads here on the DIS; sharing traditions and happy holiday memories; and focusing on my own family..

That's my "Christmas" present to myself (and to all of you as well)!!

 

[madge]

In the link you provided? I must have missed that. Not saying it wasn't there...but I didn't hear it.

it wasn't in the link. sorry. it was part of a clip they showed on Entertainment Tonight.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

it wasn't in the link. sorry. it was part of a clip they showed on Entertainment Tonight.

Aaaahhhh--then that could be why we are disagreeing.I only saw the excerpt on-line.

What was the comment--and the context if you have it available?

 

[DMRick]

Totally off topic..cause no way do I want J & K to adopt these babies! I just got a call from another shelter that is full, and no available foster homes. I'm getting a delivery of two 4-5 week old orange, male kittens, found on the side of the sidewalk in a tin..with the top on! They are driving them down from a city about 20 miles from us. Who would do that to kittens? So..looking for cute names for male orange kittens. If you have names, please PM me. Nothing Disney..way too overused LOL.