Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

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To be fair, are any of Kate's other relatives standing up for Kevin and Jodi?

I haven't heard one. Jodi's loud mouth sister is--but that would be an in-law and not a relative. (again--way to protect the children...let us not call authorities, let's blab to sister and she can write a blog about it.:rolleyes:)

Where's the defense of Kevin?

What is the sister in law saying and where? Her blog ended in Oct 2009.
 
Doesn't matter, I was raised that you don't play for fix your hair in the kitchen it is sanitary. A kitchen should not be used for brushing hair.
Sit down so you don't fall down. I agree, no hair brushing or combing (including humans and cats) allowed in my kitchen. Yucky.
 
Doesn't matter, I was raised that you don't play for fix your hair in the kitchen it is sanitary. A kitchen should not be used for brushing hair.

I have to do my laundry in the kitchen. Just happens to be where the washer and dryer are.

To me--that is less sanitary than brushing your hair.

You must really hate it when people wash their hair in the kitchen sink.
 
What is the sister in law saying and where? Her blog ended in Oct 2009.

She's the only relative to defend Jodi--when her blog ended is irrelevant.

The fact that it existed to paint Kate as a monster when the welfare of the children was at stake....per Kevin and Jodi in their "testimony"--

was inappropriate and very very very wrong.

A blog is not a way to report the abuse and mishandling of children.
 

Julie hasn't been heard from in almost 6 months ... well, her blog hasn't been updated in that long. Although I won't be surprised to see that changed soon.
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I'm glad to hear it's gone. It was really a hateful site.

Actually, I wonder if I was confusing two sites. I think it's the GWP site that I really don't like
 
Julie hasn't been heard from in almost 6 months ... well, her blog hasn't been updated in that long. Although I won't be surprised to see that changed soon.

As I stated earlier--the timing of the blog or the fact that it has concluded is irrelevant.

If something smells wrong or illegal, especially with children--gossip on the internet is an inappropriate way to handle it.

If the children were so ill treated--the authorities should have been involved. They never were, not for any reason--despite all the GWOPers out their petitioning to the state of PA to look into it. Did Jodi? Nooo, not dear precious, sweet and loving Aunt Jodi, bless her heart. She was so broken by her ordeal with Kate, that she couldn't bring herself to call any authority. She could only muster up enough strength to blab to her sister and endorse a blog.

Screw the sextuplets. Let's just throw Kate under the bus further and gosspi about her publicly for everyone to see for all eternity. Add fuel to that fire--paint their mom as a monster. ENDANGER THE CHILDREN FURTHER for doing so--

Don't call authorities. No--can't do that. Not ever. Oh, you want to pay me for an interview? *sniff* *sniff* okay. I'll do that.

Ohhhh--people do care, well why didn't you say so.... SURE I'll fight for the kids even if the show is over. I'll fight so no other children will suffer. I screwed over the six and betrayed their trust so that their mom could be raked over the coals in the land of the internet...

I'll make sure that no other family suffers what those kids suffered, including a blog that my sister endorses as do I that mocks the family, b/c it is fun to do so.

Please--give me a break.

Kate--you know what you are getting.

Jodi--you haven't a clue, depends on how much kleenex she has on hand and how much she wishes to ease her guilt of doing nothing.

Never mind that she was complicit with that she and Kevin are accusing Jon and Kate of.
 
She's the only relative to defend Jodi--when her blog ended is irrelevant.
The fact that it existed to paint Kate as a monster when the welfare of the children was at stake....per Kevin and Jodi in their "testimony"--

was inappropriate and very very very wrong.

A blog is not a way to report the abuse and mishandling of children.

Upthread you specifically said she is talking... I asked a legitimate follow up question and you dismissed it. Her blog ended in Oct 2009 and as you just said it isn't a way to report abuse and mishandling of children but you also dismissed her (jodi) as only an in-law and not a relative. So what is she, a legitimate source for trying to make a change if she felt like it or only an in-law bystander???
 
Doesn't matter, I was raised that you don't play for fix your hair in the kitchen it is sanitary. A kitchen should not be used for brushing hair.

I have to do my laundry in the kitchen. Just happens to be where the washer and dryer are.

To me--that is less sanitary than brushing your hair.

You must really hate it when people wash their hair in the kitchen sink.

I used to give my baby a bath in the kitchen sink- yes, it's true there was a baby butt in my sink! Oh the horror!
 
Are ya kidding me LOL? You didn't see the bad press when they interviewed for money? That's one of the few times that even some of those that didn't like Kate thought it was too little too late if true, and found it hard to believe since they didn't come out until they got paid. If Jodi and her sil were close at all (and I believe they were, since she got her info from someone) and Jodi really loved those kids, she would have stopped feeding info to this gal. That is one sick site. I haven't been there in months, but I've still read snippets of what is on there. Won't that site make the kids feel good about their family when they start to do research for their books.

Yes I did see it, I just don't think that they get anywhere near what Jon and Kate get. I still wonder if Jodi really didn't realize what Jon and Kate where doing until later. Sometimes it does take a while then it hits you what is going on. Maybe not, maybe they did know all along, and yes that would make them pretty nasty people. I just have a hard time looking at how wonderful they were to the kids, and thinking that they believed that the kids were really being harmed.

Even Jon and Kate at first seems no nice and cute, it took a while before I realized how horrible they were. I am sorry but for me personally there is just to much bad info out there on Kate for none of it to be true.

Maybe just maybe the whole family is totally screwed up and the kids should be with someone completely outside the family.
 
I used to give my baby a bath in the kitchen sink- yes, it's true there was a baby butt in my sink! Oh the horror!

Hair flies around and lands on and in things. I am sorry but I just don't understand why anyone thinks hair flying around in a kitchen is a good idea.

Nothing I like more than finding a hair in my food or on a dish or cup.
 
I used to give my baby a bath in the kitchen sink- yes, it's true there was a baby butt in my sink! Oh the horror!
I may not like hair being brushed in the kitchen..but baby's butt's in the sink..perfectly fine LOL.
 
I'm glad to hear it's gone. It was really a hateful site.

Actually, I wonder if I was confusing two sites. I think it's the GWP site that I really don't like

Ok sit down so you don't fall over. :goodvibes As much as I don't like Kate, I can't stand those people either. I hope I have been clear that I don't like Kate because of her attitude and I think she isn't that great of a mother. Do I think she endangers the kids, nope, I do think she could make better choices. And I don't believe for one second that everything she does is for the kids. She also stated on Good Morning America (I think) That she would rather be at home all the time cooking and baking for the kids.(she said that she hated baking and that Jodi was an awesome baker at one time) Anyway, I don't believe for one second that she would be home with them full time even if she had enough money right now to pay off the house pay for each of them to get a masters degree and everything else that goes along with raising them. I think she likes the attention, s=and she would never give that perk up. Anyway off topic. I can't stand thoses people at GWOP. The hate that she tans, gets a maicure and pedi. Who cares. They get mad when she doesn't buy those poor babies milk, Who cares, milk isn't that great for you anyway. They even say that Kate starves the kids to keep them small CRAZY . So on that you and I agree. SHOCKING. lol
 
The public hates Kate and Kevin and Jodi....only affirm that choice.

To me--if one truly believes a child is being harmed in anyway, the correct course of action is to not "play along" for years.

I can dislike some of Kate and Jon's choices while recognizing their right to make those choices.

As posted earlier, being stupid isn't against the law.

I believe it was only a year or so before Jodi was 'let go'. The show went on longer after than before. The show got worse as time went on, more and more episodes and more child exploitation.

So it is better in your mind never to speak up at all if you don't do it in whatever time frame you have deemed acceptable? It would have been better for the gosselin 8 to have the light shown on conditions earlier, but what is done is done. We can only go forward ;), and prevent this from happening to other kids. This social experiment will be studied in college classes in the future. it does need to be stopped and no better time than the present.
 
Actually these parts we really pretty much agree LOL. None of the below makes me dislike her though. I actually think I like her spunk and how she keeps coming back for more LOL.

Do I think she endangers the kids, nope, I do think she could make better choices. And I don't believe for one second that everything she does is for the kids. She also stated on Good Morning America (I think) That she would rather be at home all the time cooking and baking for the kids.(she said that she hated baking and that Jodi was an awesome baker at one time) Anyway, I don't believe for one second that she would be home with them full time even if she had enough money right now to pay off the house pay for each of them to get a masters degree and everything else that goes along with raising them. I think she likes the attention, s=and she would never give that perk up. Anyway off topic. I can't stand thoses people at GWOP. The hate that she tans, gets a maicure and pedi. Who cares. They get mad when she doesn't buy those poor babies milk, Who cares, milk isn't that great for you anyway. They even say that Kate starves the kids to keep them small CRAZY . So on that you and I agree. SHOCKING. lol
 
To be fair, are any of Kate's other relatives standing up for Kevin and Jodi?

I haven't heard one. Jodi's loud mouth sister is--but that would be an in-law and not a relative. (again--way to protect the children...let us not call authorities, let's blab to sister and she can write a blog about it.:rolleyes:)

Where's the defense of Kevin?

What are Jodi and Kevin accused of doing that warrants defending? People disagree about their motives, but their message has to be okay, right?
 
I believe it was only a year or so before Jodi was 'let go'. The show went on longer after than before. The show got worse as time went on, more and more episodes and more child exploitation.

So it is better in your mind never to speak up at all if you don't do it in whatever time frame you have deemed acceptable? It would have been better for the gosselin 8 to have the light shown on conditions earlier, but what is done is done. We can only go forward ;), and prevent this from happening to other kids. This social experiment will be studied in college classes in the future. it does need to be stopped and no better time than the present.

I see it as this....

You--kidshop, have a relative whom you feel is doing something that harms the children so much and so bad--that it is a reportable offense and worthy of investigation.

Instead of reporting it, you blog about it to warn the public. The harm continues--b/c you failed to do anything that could stop it, but rather just gossiped about it.

You are now complicit b/c you allowed it to continue, when you as a first hand witness could have done something about it.

Jodi and Kevin were part of their lives for THREE years. I believe they went off in season 4--but don't quote me on that. Whatever season gumgate was in--which is when the sextuplets were 3 (based on a google double check).

The show ended within months of the Sextuplets turning 5. (filming of the children ordered to cease on Oct 1--about 5 months later)

So I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers....


In any case--no it isn't better to "never" to speak up.

I found it irresponsible for Jodi and Kevin to handle it the way they did, in the manner in which they did which makes me question the sincerity of what they are doing.

With 8 kids on the line--it's easy to be swayed by teh belief that they are doing this "for the children" as so many believed Kate to be doing.

But just b/c Jodi and Kevin are seeking to improve laws--doesn't mean they are doing squat for the kids. Their on a fame train and what better way to do that, than to stroke your ego in the name of children. Just b/c something "good" and "beneficial" will come out of it--doesn't make their quest noble.

They failed for their nieces and nephews. Nothing they do now will ever change that.

Believing their intent is genuine is no different than believing what Jon and Kate is saying as always 100% true.

Who allows for harm, but then only says something after they are out of the picture via a vindictive and malicious person (Jodi's sis')?

It's not like Jon and Kate were a cult and brainwashed Kevin and Jodi. They were two grown adults capable of making their own decisions.
 
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