Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[longstangetrip]

I read somewhere that Jon took Aiden to the hospital? What was that all about?

It was the Dr. or urgent care I think. Bump and maybe a cut on the head. He was fine.

 

[Hoodie]

I just got an email from Discovery Channel Store with the subject "Jon and Kate Plus 8: Buy one get one FREE"

Is it me or is that a bit inappropriate?

 

[blissventure]

I just got an email from Discovery Channel Store with the subject "Jon and Kate Plus 8: Buy one get one FREE"

Is it me or is that a bit inappropriate?

They probably see the writing on the wall. Sales may not be nearly as good in the coming months as they used to be.

 

[FergieTCat]

Okay, so two days ago Kate filed for divorce and somehow in everything that has been going on it has been discussed and decided that the girlfriend is going to be on the show? I find that impossible to believe. TLC decides to put the show on hiatus and then what? Calls Jon and says "Hey, let's have Deanna on the new episodes!" Please.

If that's the case, they've lost me as a viewer (and I'm loyal -- I've hung on to the bitter end!)

I would watch with just Kate, and maybe Jon visiting every now and again. I will not watch "Jon+1".

 

[eliza61]

Shame on Gosslin for violating her children's privacy in such a disgusting way. All I can hope is that the judge hearing the divorce reads this and has the same reaction. Those poor children. It's beyond indecent to chat with People about your children's pain. But, hey, money is money.
(And, of course, J&K can take plenty of the credit for what the kids are being put through. )

Never have I seen 2 people turn into self absorb, self centered human beings.

 

[redrosesix]

Here's the article from GMA this morning:

Despite an announcement that divorce proceedings have begun, "Jon & Kate Plus 8" matriarch Kate Gosselin is still wearing her wedding ring because taking it off would devastate her children.

Kate Gosselin explained to People magazine in an exclusive interview that it was her husband of 10 years, Jon Gosselin, who asked for the divorce.

"I curled up in a ball and I sobbed. I couldn't breathe; I was hyperventilating. I was scaring people who were calling to check on me because I couldn't even talk," she told the entertainment magazine.

In a confessional during Monday's night's episode of "Jon & Kate Plus 8" she said she didn't want raise her children as a single parent.

"I don't really want to be alone. I don't want to do this alone," she said.

Gosselin said her husband wanted to split for a long time before he told her he hired a lawyer and advised her to do the same. She said it's a step she would have never taken on her own.

People magazine deputy managing editor Peter Castro told "Good Morning America" that the situation is "the portrait of an American family crumbling."

"They don't hate each other," he said, but added, "[Jon] did not want any part of counseling; he wanted out of this marriage."

"It's real reality television," he said.

The Gosselins admitted on Monday night's episode that they had been living increasingly separate lives for the last two years, and Kate Gosselin said the breaking point in the marriage was not a result of the show or tabloid scrutiny.

"I believe it is a chapter that would have probably would have played out had the world been watching or not," Kate Gosselin said.

In the no-fault divorce papers she filed Monday in Montgomery County, Pa., she called her marriage "irretrievably broken" and said she is willing to "negotiate a fair and reasonable" settlement with Jon Gosselin.

Attorneys for both Jon and Kate Gosselin said Tuesday that the couple lived together on their Berks County compound until recently.

"They have been living 'separate and apart' just within the last week or two," said Jon's attorney, Charles Meyer, using a term from the divorce petition.

While court papers do not explain what led to the couple's breakup, in a statement released to the media Kate Gosselin said "Jon's activities" over the weekend had left her "no choice but to file legal procedures in order to protect myself and our children."

"To be honest, I was hurt by Kate's statement about the divorce," Jon countered Tuesday in his own release. "I have always done everything I can to protect our family. This weekend, I was home with the kids for four days, just being a dad. No nannies, just the kids and me."

While they reportedly are unable to agree on the division of their assets, Jon Gosselin said he hopes to "resolve things amicably."

Jon and Kate Gosselin broke the news to their children together, first by telling twins Cara and Mady.


The identical twins had very different reactions to the news.

"Mady was something. She said, 'I can't say this comes as much of a surprise. I could've guessed.' But Cara just crumpled into tears. She was crying, and I was holding her in my arms like a baby," Kate Gosselin told People.

The Gosselins broke the news to their sextuplets by keeping it "light and airy."

The Gosselins, who are parents of 8-year-old twins and 5-year-old sextuplets, have decided to share their expansive $1.1 million home in southeastern Pennsylvania and rotate time there so that each parent gets to spend time with the children.

The children were told, "Daddy's not going to live here sometimes, but he'll come back half the time and we'll trade on and off."

The family's troubles have resulted in huge ratings for the TLC show. The 10.6 million viewers who watched the Monday night show detailing the Gosselins' break up was a record, beating the huge audience for last month's "Jon & Kate" fifth season premiere by 800,000 viewers.

But the estranged couple's relationship difficulties will not get in the way of their hit TLC show. They've said they will continue filming the hit show.

"We interview separately, we'll film different things," Jon explained on Monday's episode. "Me and the kids, her and the kids."

"What [the show is] about changes almost on an episode basis," Castro said. "The reason people are tuning in is because this is American rubbernecking at its finest, or its worst, depending on your view."


The network said it would air a retrospective of the Gosselins' 10-year marriage next Monday, followed by a hiatus until Aug. 3.

During that break, "the family will take some time off to regroup, and then a modified schedule will be in place to support the family's transition," the network said.

In a statement Tuesday, TLC president Eileen O'Neill said the network "continues to support the Gosselin family and will work closely with them to determine the best way to continue to tell their story as they navigate through this difficult time."

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Story?id=7912407&page=1

Umm, this is pretty one-sided. Kate says he asked for the divorce (she filed), that she will be doing it all alone (they'll be "trading on and off"), that she has to protect their children (from what?!?)...blah, blah, blah.

Reminds me of the digs she had to put in on the show, like doing the birthday party "with no help" (ah, he wasn't living there that day) yet she obviously refuses to go along with any suggestions he makes. This lady is out to win the PR war with the public, and with her kids -- sooooo common in divorce but sooooo not pretty. We should all try to see what she's doing for what it is, not as the absolute truth.

 

[mrsksomeday]

Shame on Gosslin for violating her children's privacy in such a disgusting way. All I can hope is that the judge hearing the divorce reads this and has the same reaction. Those poor children. It's beyond indecent to chat with People about your children's pain. But, hey, money is money.
(And, of course, J&K can take plenty of the credit for what the kids are being put through. )

I totally agree with you about this. How dare she talk to People about how the children reacted, that is NONE of the public's business. This will backlash on both Jon and Kate one day. Those children will look back on this time and wonder why things had to be played out on TV, People, and everywhere else . This disgusts me.

Have they never heard the words "no comment"?

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

I would just love to peer into the lives of people that judge them so harshly with their children. I like Kate, she's a survivor, intelligent and is just trying to find a way to raise these kids. It if means tv shows, appearances, etc., good for them. I'd like to see what the haters would say if they had 8 kids. I cried on their last episode. I do think Jon got overwhelmed and bailed, which is very sad. But I wish them all the best. I hope Kate holds her own, doesn't listen to the ugliness, and just does what she can to provide for her children. I'm sure she weighs the pros and cons very carefully. She's doing her best.

 

[nuke]

He was photographed sneaky, sneaky; and it did not look factory rolled. Know what I'm sayin? Jon said he's struggled with "smoking" for a long time. He is a snowboarder, dude. You need to see the pic.

Oh Please! It was a cigarette.

 

[blissventure]

I would just love to peer into the lives of people that judge them so harshly with their children. I like Kate, she's a survivor, intelligent and is just trying to find a way to raise these kids. It if means tv shows, appearances, etc., good for them. I'd like to see what the haters would say if they had 8 kids. I cried on their last episode. I do think Jon got overwhelmed and bailed, which is very sad. But I wish them all the best. I hope Kate holds her own, doesn't listen to the ugliness, and just does what she can to provide for her children. I'm sure she weighs the pros and cons very carefully. She's doing her best.

I don't mind intelligent discussion in the least.
I'm not as open about tossing around the H word.

Finally, I hope J&K both put their children's lives and PRIVACY, first. That includes speaking about their children's pain to (ugh) People Mag. I'll join you in hoping Gosslin will weigh the pros and cons more carefully in the future.

 

[Disneynut5]

You know with the huge stress of raising 8 kids and multiple babies twice, then add the TV show and fame and money, career changes, loss of friends, a move, etc - they should just give each other a break for behaviors in the past 4 years and turn off the show and try to start over from here. Now that the kids are older and in school it would be a perfect time to try to repair things and become a normal family for the first time. You know a family where Dad goes off to work, the kids go to school, and Mom does the laundry and cooks dinner. Those kids have never really had that despite what Kate wants us to believe.

And if Jon really did turn down counseling then I think he is more to "blame." That is giving up and he has 8 beautiful reasons to at least try! I wonder if the time with his mother affected his views to a degree? I bet she did not like the way her son was treated by Kate or the way he was protrayed on the show. She probably gave him an earful in her alone time with him.

 

[mickeyboat]

Personally I think Jon is going to have a rude awakening when he and Kate split. Kate is driving the gravy train. How is he supposed to pay for all his toys, his fun and his NY apartment when his source of funds dries up? He will have no choice but to continue to appear on the show. Maybe he will write a book. If that's the case, he is no better than Kate when it comes to exploiting his kids.

When Kate says there is no turning back, I think that's true for the lifestyle she is living, too. There is no way she will stop going to the spa, driving around in fancy cars and taking vacations all the time. Unfortunately it is wishful thinking that they will stop taking advantage of their kids. The show will go on.

 

[newtodis]

I didn't watch the video posted earlier so I'm not sure if this is the same info or not...

By Mike Celizic
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
Kate Gosselin has filed the divorce papers and taped the television show in which she and her estranged husband, Jon, told a record audience that their marriage is over. But she still can’t take off her wedding ring.

“She’s not ready to do that yet,” People magazine’s senior editor Kate Coyne told TODAY’s Matt Lauer Wednesday in New York. “She stopped and thought about it and realized that if her kids saw that visible indication that the marriage was over, that it would just devastate them.”

Coyne talked extensively to Kate Gosselin for the cover story in the July 6 issue of People, which hits newsstands and supermarket checkout lines Friday.


In it, Kate confesses, “It feels like I failed.” When it became clear that divorce was inevitable, the mother of eight said, “I curled up in a ball and I sobbed. I couldn't breathe; I was hyperventilating.”

Telling the kids
In Monday’s episode of “Jon & Kate Plus 8,” the couple told their fans why their marriage had failed and how they would share custody of the children by swapping places in their $1.1 million house in rural Pennsylvania. But, Coyne told Lauer, they didn’t talk a lot about how they broke the news to their children — twins Mady and Cara, 8, and sextuplets Alexis, Collin, Leah, Hannah, Aaden and Joel, 5 — and how the children took it.

Coyne said that Jon and Kate, who have agreed on very little for quite some time, seemed to have handled the difficult task well.

“In a way, it was reassuring to see how normal they kept things,” Coyne said. “They did it together. They came together despite all their differences and they told the children jointly.

“They told the oldest girls first. And then they told the younger children separately.”

Coyne said the kids are aware their parents are feuding, but don’t understand why.

“They don’t really know what Jon and Kate are fighting about. I think sometimes Jon and Kate aren’t clear on what they’re fighting about,” she told Lauer.

But the kids still love both their parents. “They can’t not love their mom and dad,” Coyne said.

A rocky road
The Gosselins’ marriage has been headed for the rocks very publicly for a long time. For years, fans of the show have talked about how bossy Kate was.

The final blow hit earlier this year when Jon was photographed partying with a young woman, and rumors that he had cheated on Kate hit the tabloids. Allegations that she, too, was unfaithful — with her bodyguard — quickly followed.


In effect, the couple have been living separate lives for several months. When Kate has been on the road promoting her book, Jon has stayed home. When she was home, he took to the road.

It was apparent the marriage was over when the couple did not celebrate their tenth wedding anniversary, and when Jon spent Father’s Day at home with the kids — but without Kate.

While the marriage has disintegrated, the paparazzi have become more persistent. Recent tabloid reports have questioned Kate’s devotion to her children. She says her commitment to them remains unchanged.

Two different worlds
Kate filed the divorce papers, but she said that Jon initiated the action.

“Jon has wanted this for a long time,” Kate told Coyne. “He said, ‘We’re doing it. I got a lawyer, you better get one.’ ”

Although Kate checked a box on the no-fault divorce papers saying that the couple have been living separately for two years, Coyne said that’s not accurate. Their television series shows them together in the same house. But it’s obvious they were living separate lives even in the same home.

In Monday’s episode, the couple sat as far apart from each other as possible, faced the cameras that have been documenting their lives, and said that they don’t hate each other; they just want to part ways.

“I don’t hate Kate ... but I have to do what’s best for me and my kids,” Jon said.

“It’s a fork in the road,” Kate told the camera. “I don’t hate him. I never will. He’s the father of my children. And they’re great kids.”

“I feel like I lost a lot,” Jon said.

Said Kate, “I’m tired of smiling on the outside and crying on the inside.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31522062/ns/today_people/

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

I hope they all get counseling, particularly the children. I wish them all the best, I really like the family. They could have had selected abortion with some of the kids, etc., etc., gone on welfare, etc., but they chose to try to find a way provide for all those kids. I will keep them all in my prayers.

 

[newtodis]

CBS/ AP) Now that Jon and Kate Gosselin’s split is official, new details are emerging about their 10-year marriage, and the lives they led off-camera.

In her first interview since filing for divorce, Kate told People magazine Jon wanted out for a long time.

"He does not want to be married to me anymore," Kate told People. "No questions asked, he went and hired a lawyer and said you better get one. So I did. I never would have made that step; I never would have done it."

Monday night's show, in which the couple announced their separation and divorce, drew a record audience of 10.6 million viewers.

When they told their eight kids, Kate told People, she and Jon never used the words "separation" or "divorce."

"I’m not naïve," she said. "I know that my kids will come out of this, to a degree, with some sort of dysfunction. I’m not stupid."

Michelle Tan, a senior writer for People magazine, said on The Early Show Wednesday that Kate is "going through a myriad of emotions."

"There are days where she feels relief," Tan said. "Right now, this is the end of a lot of tension that’s been building for the last six months. To actually have a resolution, albeit not a happy one, she’s sensing some relief but, at the same time, she’s feeling like she’s failed. This is a woman who has never quit at all at anything she’s ever done."

Tan added one of the 8-year-old girl twins actually said the announcement wasn't a surprise to her, and she could have guessed it would happen.

As for the smaller children, Tan said it’s going to take time for the news to sink in.

She said Jon and Kate have told the children their lives will continue much like where they are now. But, Tan said, Jon and Kate will take turns being in the house.

The couple plans to spend equal time with their children at the $1.1 million house they moved into last year, with Kate staying elsewhere when Jon has custody and Jon making other living arrangements when it's her turn, according to a statement Jon released to the media.

"And the little kids just said, 'You know what, it’s great, when is my next snack?"' Tan said. "They’re very young. It will take time for them to register."

Kate insists the show isn't to blame for the dissolution of their marriage.

She told People, "This is a situation that absolutely would have happened whether the cameras were here or not. I don’t want people thinking we traded marriage for fame. Ever."

Attorneys for both Jon and Kate Gosselin said Tuesday that the couple lived together on their Berks County, Pa., compound until recently.

But, the divorce filing, according to People, claimed Jon and Kate had been living separate lives for two years. Kate’s lawyers explained that away, People said, as a misunderstanding of "legalese."

"They have been living 'separate and apart' just within the last week or two," said Jon's attorney, Charles Meyer, using a term from the divorce petition.

But, as CBS News correspondent Susan Roberts reports, the official word of the moves for divorce has raised the question: How much of the Gosselins' reality show was real -- and how much was staged for the cameras?

Kate's lawyer, Cheryl Young, said Tuesday the couple has already started negotiating the terms of the divorce.

TLC has halted production of the show, People says. The next new episode, the magazine said, won’t air until August.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/24/earlyshow/leisure/celebspot/main5108655.shtml

 

[MICKEY4EVER!]

yes. there was a paparazzi picture last week, and he told radar online that he's always smoked, just not in front of the children.

Thanks!

 

[longstangetrip]

Oh Please! It was a cigarette.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/jon-gosselin-caught-smoking-his-joint

yes, of sorts!

 

[newtodis]

Here's an interesting artilce from other "multiple moms"

When Gail Moore heard Kate Gosselin, star of the hit reality show, Jon & Kate Plus 8, bemoan that she and her husband hadn't beaten the marital odds stacked against parents of multiples, she cringed.

``I was listening to it and I went, `Oh, God,' '' says the mother of 16-year- old twin boys and an older son and daughter. ``I know why she would say that, because definitely, there is a lot more stress, so it feels like you're two to three times more likely to have marital problems - but there's nothing that proves that.''

Gosselin's comments came during a heavily promoted special episode of TLC's show about her Pennsylvania family, which includes eight-year-old twin girls and five-year-old sextuplets. After months of reported marital struggles, Gosselin, 34, and her husband Jon, 32, announced they were separating, but hours before the show aired Monday night, news broke that she had filed for divorce.

``Parents of multiples have triple the divorce rate,'' Kate said on the program. ``I was thinking we were going to beat that. I don't know if I can say that anymore.''

Moore and other Canadian parents of multiples take exception to that.

Moore, the chair of Multiple Births Canada, says the organization was inundated with calls from reporters after the show aired, but they combed through international research and found nothing that showed an elevated divorce rate among parents of multiples.

``She's blaming it on the multiple births,'' she says of Gosselin. ``Maybe it has something to do with having the cameras on you.''

According to Statistics Canada, there were 11,034 children born as multiples in 2006, the most recent year for which data is available, up from 9,118 in 2000. The agency doesn't break those numbers down into twins, triplets and so on.

Moore, who lives in New Liskeard, Ont., argues the teamwork required to parent multiples brings many couples closer together. She knows one woman who swooped into a department store to pick up a small appliance she'd arranged to have waiting at the counter - only to realize she didn't have enough hands to make it home with her purchase and a toddler twin on each hand.

``It makes them a stronger unit, because they realize the children need them, and they work as a team to be able to handle all of the physical things that need to be done for the children,'' she says.

Lynda Haddon has been teaching pre-natal classes to parents expecting multiples for 20 years, and she encourages her students to tend to their marriages as carefully as they do to parenting. ``You're doomed'' is the last thing they need to hear, she says, but people are often only too eager to share horror stories.

``I'm very saddened, because it's very hard on the rest of us when this is out there,'' says the Perth, Ont. resident.

Haddon is about to celebrate her 30th anniversary with her husband, and she says raising their 28-year-old daughter and 26-year-old twin girls strengthened their bond.

``We're in this together; that's something we would say to each other,'' she says.

Another ugly side effect of Gosselin's statement is that her children will someday watch the show and possibly feel responsible for the demise of their children's marriage, Haddon says.

Donna Launslager, the Waterloo, Ont., mother of a 26-year-old son and 24- year-old quadruplets, says multiples can magnify underlying problems and add stressors to a family that those outside don't see. She and her husband have been married for almost 35 years, but she says the public fascination with multiples often masks the struggles.

``I feel very blessed,'' Launslager says. ``I have five wonderful children. They're all grown up and graduated, and in an instant I would do it over again, but it has been a hard happiness.''

TLC announced on Tuesday that a ``retrospective of Jon and Kate's first 10 years'' will air on June 29, then the show will go on hiatus until August, giving the Gosselins time to ``regroup'' before resuming a modified schedule.

``TLC continues to support the Gosselin family and will work closely with them to determine the best way to continue to tell their story as they navigate through this difficult time,'' the network said in a statement.


http://www.canada.com/Kate+divorce+typical+parents+multiples/1727269/story.html

 

[newtodis]

Jon Gosselin Mad At
Kate’s Statements
Show Could Get Heated
MyFox Philly Report
Jon and Kate Gosselin have picked media outlets to start their public divorce fight, with Jon mad about Kate’s claims that he could hurt his own family.

Slideshow: Images Of The Gosselin Estate

Jon was speaking with Entertainment Tonight about Kate’s claims she had to file for divorce to protect her children.

"I am deeply saddened that we are divorcing, and also hurt by the statement Kate made last night about the divorce. I have always done everything I can to protect our family,” Jon Gosselin told ET.

In a statement to People magazine, Kate Gosselin said, “Over the course of this weekend, Jon's activities have left me no choice but to file legal procedures in order to protect myself and our children."

Jon Gosselin told ET that he also wanted matters handled peacefully.

"The one thing I do agree with in Kate's statement is her desire to resolve things amicably. Of course emotions are running high for both of us right now, but for the sake of our children and our family's privacy, I hope that we can both limit our public comments about the legal proceedings going forward."

He also told ET he spent Father’s Day alone with his eight children.

Kate Gosselin also said she is willing to "negotiate a fair and reasonable" settlement with Jon.

She has picked People magazine as her exclusive media outlet and the magazine is heavily promoting its exclusive interview with Kate, on newsstands this Friday, conducted just a few days before the divorce announcement.

"On a good day, I feel relief," Kate told People. "On a bad day, I feel failure."

Kate Gosselin also told People that the children have been told about the divorce.

The New York Daily News says its sources confirm Reading, Pa., school teacher Deanna Hummel could appear also appear in scenes shot at Jon's residence when the show returns.

US Weekly reported in May that Hummel and Jon Gosselin were in a relationship, which both people have denied.

“Deanna's role isn't expected to be big, but because she's part of Jon's life, she'll be filmed," says the Daily News.

Given that bodyguard Steve Nield is still working for Kate Gosselin, and they have been romantically linked, the new “Jon & Kate” could get a bit heated.

The couple's divorce episode on Monday night drew 10.6 million viewers – a new record for TLC and up from 2.8 million the previous week.

That may give TLC enough of a motive to change the focus of the show from the couple's eight children to its four adults.

TLC and the Gosselins also have to face a current Pennsylvania state investigation into alleged child-labor law violations.

For now, the couple will split child care responsibilities at their Wernersville, Pa., estate,and maintain separate residences.

TLC has halted production on Jon & Kate Plus 8 on Tuesday. It says all-new episodes won't air until at least August 3. The decision apparently came from the network.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/062409_Gosselin_Divorce_battle

 

[newtodis]

I feel like I should put a disclaimer on this one for some reason. It's just a blog - not one I wrote - just one I found and am sharing...

Maybe Jon Gosselin Should’ve Thought of This When He Was Cheatin’
Posted: June 23rd, 2009 at 3:40 pm | By: Alison Bonaguro
If you don’t watch Jon & Kate Plus 8 on TLC, then you may want to stop reading. Or if you watch it and think, “Poor Jon, that wife of his sure is bossy,” you should stop right here, too. Because I am not only on Team Kate, I am practically a founding member of the club.

It was announced during last night’s episode that the Gosselins have filed for divorce. And every time Jon shrugged his shoulders in kind of a “whatever” gesture during the interview portion of the show and said something passive like, “I don’t know what’s gonna happen,” Sara Evans‘ “Cheatin’” kept running through my head. “You made your bed and you’re out of mine/You lie awake and I sleep just fine/You’ve done your sowing/Now you can do your reaping.”

So many people are quick to forget that Jon was the one who started this downward spiral by getting caught out with another woman. Leaving a bar. Late, late at night. He’d denied any infidelity, of course, but I have my doubts. And I think his wife, Kate, does too. So all those paparazzi cameras Jon complains about ad nauseam? He’s the one who turned them on with his sordid affairs.

What bothers me most about their made-for-TV saga is that somehow, everything’s been twisted, and people everywhere are calling Kate a controlling *****. Because she runs a tight ship? Because she has a job that requires some travel? Because she gets lattes and manicures and looks good in a bikini? Please. Kate Gosselin appears to be a better mother than most moms I know. She feeds her kids well, shows them so much love, is teaching them self-sufficiency and right from wrong — and showing all eight of them that sometimes, it’s just not right to stand by your man.

http://blog.cmt.com/2009-06-23/maybe-jon-gosselin-shouldve-thought-of-this-when-he-was-cheatin/