Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[floridafam]

So Jon's girlfriend went to Indiana University for two years. Didn't he wear a IU shirt to the kid's birthday party? Classy.

 

[DMRick]

I know what you mean..I just don't agree that just because the paps are out front, which is a long distance away they should have to move where they play. I don't happen to think that playing out front means that Kate is happy for the attention. The paps prob have plenty of other photogs they could show us, but they get the most noise from us when we complain that they took pictures out front and Kate let them..so those are the ones they'll sell to the rag mags.
I find it interesting that the rag mags don't show us pictures of the kids at their school. My theory is, we would not be happy with that, and they would look like the bad guys, instead of some thinking it's all Kate and Kate allowing them to be taken out front.
IMO, they have to do some work, catching those kids in between the trees when they are out front..it's not a clear playing field.

I agree .. the children should be able to play where they're happy. Jon & Kate are obviously ok with the way things are, because they continue to play wherever. They're living their life.

All I'm saying is that if Jon and Kate feel that the children shouldn't play in the front so they can't be photographed as easily, then the children are old enough for an explanation as to why they need to be in the back. And in the end, Jon and Kate are the parents, they make the rules. KWIM?

 

[GJM]

That article just made me sick -

Everyone talks about what Kate wears when she goes food shopping - how many times have we seen Jon food shop??

I would never put my DS in clothes that look like what Jon wears -

 

[purplegirl247]

You know, "Kate plus8 and Jon with his date".

It rhymes and everything.

 

[alexandria674]

Yuck!

...Jon is a real class act.

Next he will be bringing out the good plastic, have fine dining consisting of 7-11 hot dogs and toast to his foxy lady using the best Big Gulp cups.


Sorry for the snark.

 

[DWGal210]

...Jon is a real class act.

Next he will be bringing out the good plastic, have fine dining consisting of 7-11 hot dogs and toast to his foxy lady using the best Big Gulp cups.


Sorry for the snark.

LOL this made me laugh. I feel exactly the same way.

And Jonny boy, that 23-year old might want to date you, but I have a hard time believing she also wants to be the step-mom of 8 kids. Not saying their relationship is that point yet, but it's going to be a "special person" that a) wants to marry a spinless, child-like man like Jon, and b) also wants to be the stepmom to 8 kids.

He makes me sick!!

 

[Seahunt]

I thought this part of an article about Jon in St Tropez was interesting reading:

Given the media spotlight, dating coach Patti Feinstein said, it's not a good idea for Gosselin to be out with another woman so soon after the marital rift.

"You need to take a little time off from dating, because there is this rebound period," Feinstein said. "He's probably feeling that he wasn't getting enough attention from his wife, so he's all lonely, and he needs to be stroked up.

"Once he gets the feeling that 'I'm loveable; I'm worthy; someone loves me for me and wants to put me first,' " Feinstein theorized, "then that person he is dating, either he will dump her, or she will dump him."

Relationship expert Nancy Slotnick said the unfortunate ones in the high-profile tabloid fodder are the Gosselin children: 8-year-old twins Cara and Mady and 5-year-old sextuplets Aaden, Collin, Joel, Alexis, Hannah and Leah.

"Their whole TV show is based on them being parents and caring for all of these kids they have, and both of them seem totally wrapped up in themselves," Slotnick said. "It's strange that [Jon] feels like he has to deny the whole thing, then at the same time he is flaunting it."

Psychotherapist M. Gary Neuman advises that parents should wait about a year after a separation before introducing a relationship to their children.

"Children need about a year at least to adjust to the new sense of family and to develop individual relationships with each parent," said Neuman, the author of "Helping Your Kids Cope With Divorce the Sandcastles Way." "When Dad has a girlfriend, then kids can see that as an intrusion on their time and their situation."

Neuman, whose Sandcastles program for children of divorce is mandatory through the court system in several states, said children go through a great deal of emotional turmoil in the wake of a broken marriage.

Couples should wait at least six months to even let their kids know that they are actively dating, Neuman said.

"It is hurtful to children to think that their parents are dating when it is done so soon after a separation," Neuman said. "Because what it says is that it is minimizing the marriage, and the marriage is crucial to children because they came from this union, and they want to know that their parents were in love when [the children] were born.

"The idea that there could be such a quick move to dating that the children are aware of could devalue their parents' relationship and therefore themselves."

I do agree that the children will be the ones most hurt in the end by all this. I hope that the public doesn't support what happens next marketing-wise by either parent, if only to halt any grandiose plans for the kids to take over the world!

(I do have to add though that Kate seems to have much better PR advisors for spin than Jon does - i.e. no pictures of her during her recent trip to California for meetings,etc., her pictures lately are all just of her being "normal" - with the kids and shopping, etc. Jon's fans (if he has any left) have to be dropping like flies with this bad press )

 

[Hollywoodhaha]

I don't see how people keep thinking that Kate is the bad guy...
JON is the one who cheated..

 

[3prettyprincesses]

"Children need about a year at least to adjust to the new sense of family and to develop individual relationships with each parent," said Neuman, the author of "Helping Your Kids Cope With Divorce the Sandcastles Way." "When Dad has a girlfriend, then kids can see that as an intrusion on their time and their situation."

"It is hurtful to children to think that their parents are dating when it is done so soon after a separation," Neuman said. "Because what it says is that it is minimizing the marriage, and the marriage is crucial to children because they came from this union, and they want to know that their parents were in love when [the children] were born.

"The idea that there could be such a quick move to dating that the children are aware of could devalue their parents' relationship and therefore themselves."

I do agree that the children will be the ones most hurt in the end by all this. I hope that the public doesn't support what happens next marketing-wise by either parent, if only to halt any grandiose plans for the kids to take over the world!

That is really, really good advice. My parents split when I was 12 and it was devastating...my Dad immediately had a new girlfriend and was married within a year. My Mom started dating quickly and was also married within a year. It was a lot of change very quickly and caused both my sister and I to be hurt, angry and confused. We felt like we were no longer important and took a backseat to their new spouses.

How J&K handle this divorce is going to have such an impact on their kids. I sincerely hope they realize how crucial that is. They really have the power to make this less painful for all their kids. I can't imagine their reaction to Jon's newest girlfriend. It makes me sad for them.

 

[mousey]

Poor Kate! She is so innocent in all of this. What in the world could she have done to make her husband of 10 years leave her for a younger woman??

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Poor Kate! She is so innocent in all of this. What in the world could she have done to make her husband of 10 years leave her for a younger woman??

Are you joking? Do you think Kate forced Jon to have an affair?? He is a grown man (or so we think) who can make his own decisions. BTW, Jon isn't innocent either in his treatment of Kate. There were many an episode where he was nasty and biting with his comments. On the Disney episode, he was yelling at Kate when she was trying to help him and then told her she was completely incapable. Nice.

I'm so baffled by this line of thinking...that Kate's treatment of Jon has driven him to affairs. He's an immature fool right now. So he coudn't find companionship with Kate, look at who he's finding it with. First Deanna...she was 22 and lived with her brother who had a horrible police record and made a sex tape with her ex-boyfriend. Now Hailey...she's also 22, the daughter of the surgeon who did Kate's tummy and was convicted of having marijuana. Hmmm, so these are the women Jon can relate to? Kind of says alot about him don't you think?

 

[Nik's Mom]

...Jon is a real class act.

Next he will be bringing out the good plastic, have fine dining consisting of 7-11 hot dogs and toast to his foxy lady using the best Big Gulp cups.


Sorry for the snark.

Eating utensils are too classy for Jon!

 

[DreaGirl]

Poor Kate! She is so innocent in all of this. What in the world could she have done to make her husband of 10 years leave her for a younger woman??

Your joking, right? Kate is not innocent. Jon is a tool, but they both contributed to the end of the marriage.

 

[MichelleVW]

Yuck!

my opinion gets lower and lower of him every day...

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Your joking, right? Kate is not innocent. Jon is a tool, but they both contributed to the end of the marriage.

100% agree! Kate treated Jon badly and vice versa. I think their marriage hasn't been good for some time. I really wonder what went down though, if Kate was willing to work on it or not. Or if Jon just said he wanted out, period. I'm sure we'll never know since it will a he said/she said issue. It's still too bad though that they couldn't have made it work.

Totally OT, but how excited are you to make your ADR's?? I can't wait, only 14 days! I feel like my ticker countdown has been crawling along for months! The best part is shopping for Disney vacations though, isn't it?

 

[alexandria674]

Eating utensils are too classy for Jon!

I can imagine the dinner.

" Fork? Ah, baby no one is watching, spaghetti is easier to pick up with your fingers...napkin, hon, this isn't the Ritz! Just wipe them on your pants and if the design looks slightly Ed Hardy-ish..well, creativity is everywhere!"


Once again, sorry for the snark.

 

[MM27]

I think we should call this one "I'm too sexy for my shirt"

I noticed something about all these pictures lately. Whenever Jon is at home with his kids, all his attention is on his cell phone. I haven't seen one pic of him on this vacation with the phone out.

 

[DreaGirl]

100% agree! Kate treated Jon badly and vice versa. I think their marriage hasn't been good for some time. I really wonder what went down though, if Kate was willing to work on it or not. Or if Jon just said he wanted out, period. I'm sure we'll never know since it will a he said/she said issue. It's still too bad though that they couldn't have made it work.

Totally OT, but how excited are you to make your ADR's?? I can't wait, only 14 days! I feel like my ticker countdown has been crawling along for months! The best part is shopping for Disney vacations though, isn't it?

Yeah, we'll never know.

I can make them in 6 days! I don't want to wish my summer away, but I'm so excited for our trip. Too bad we aren't overlapping at all, we could meet up and talk J&K in real life.

I think we should call this one "I'm too sexy for my shirt"

I noticed something about all these pictures lately. Whenever Jon is at home with his kids, all his attention is on his cell phone. I haven't seen one pic of him on this vacation with the phone out.

YUCK! I could have gone all night and not seen that picture.

I bet his phone doesn't work in France.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

Poor Kate! She is so innocent in all of this. What in the world could she have done to make her husband of 10 years leave her for a younger woman??

I haven't seen anyone on here say that Kate was totally innocent. She was disrespectful and rude to him (as he often was to her). She treated Jon like a child in many ways and now I am beginning to understand why. Jon Gosselin is a child and how frustrating to be married to a man that won't grow up. No wonder Kate was snarky. Doesn't excuse it but it sure explains a lot to me.

Did she contribute to the end of this marriage....without a doubt. But she in no way, shape or form made him leave. That one is all his.

For those of you amazed at Kate's outfit while at the grocery store: Wouldn't you all dress up even to go to the grocery store if you knew you would be plastered on the cover of a magazine? I think I might, especially so my cheating soon-to-be ex husband could see how awesome I look.

 

[momrek06]

That is just disturbing.

Is that a beer belly on Jon? Why did he have to lift his shirt up THAT MUCH to get to his cell? Esp with all the PAP around.....please Jon.

Kate is probably laughing her "a" off at this pic!!!