Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 5

[DreaGirl]

I won't want to see the pictures, MY EYES MY EYES!!

I can just see beer belly pix now.

 

[redrosesix]

I have no idea if it's true, but it has been said that they were not offered a show because they (the parents) were not polished, among other reasons given.

Yes, they could cut back, but if Jon doesn't work and pay support, and if Kate goes back to work, they will have to add child care to the mix as well. I don't think either of them are employable at 'normal' jobs (just my own opinion) at this time. Plus, it's important to mention, that the parents (K & J) don't have any problems with the show continuing. So, other than the stupid Paps, why would they end it prematurely?

I agree, but I don't think they necessarily have to get regular jobs. They would have to finish out their contract, and they make as much per show as some people make in a year. Properly invested, this would be enough income for them to live a normal life, especially once the kids are all in school (no reason they would have to be in private schools, really)

But...they'd have to cut way back on the spending if they didn't want to get regular jobs too.

My DH thinks he is. He might clear up one day & say OMG what have I done.
It would explain his choice in new friends & behavior.

Exactly what behaviour are you talking about? I've worked with a lot of drug addicts and I don't see anything that would make me think that.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

replay of the interview:
http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/regisandkelly/video_archive.html

Hmmm, I finally watched this and thought Kate handled herself really well despite tough questions from Regis. I did kind of cringe when she said her famous "we can only move forward, we can't go back" statement. I wish I knew what the heck she meant by that. It really doesn't make sense to me. Anyhow, IMO she answered the rest of the questions candidly and it looked like Kelly was embarrassed by Regis' questions...she kept shifting in her chair and then apologetically said that Regis was off on his own right now with the questions. Did you all notice that Kate said there wasn't any schedule right now with her and Jon? That explains why we've all be so confused about the m-th and the fri-sun scenario! I did hear Kate also say that 'she' lives with the kids and then disappears when it's Jon's turn. I thought that was interesting and I think somebody already mentioned it here on the thread, right? Well, since the 45 days are up so far we've got Kate talking to People, The Today Show and Regis & Kelly. Why oh why can't she and Jon just be quiet? Oh wait, because people like us (not all of course) want to know! It's like a double edged sword isn't it? I want to know how they're all doing and how Kate feels about Jon and his actions yet I want her to keep quiet and handle it privately! What a contradiction!!

ETA: I was on the cake thread and found this cake which would be PERFECT for Kate! It's post #1735!
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=33152854#post33152854

 

[mousey]

Well they better have their investments and future investments up to date. This show is not going to last forever even though some people think it should. As far as these other families of multiple births that didn't do shows--kudos to them for respecting their childrens privacy rather than going for the almighty buck.
Why can't Jon & Kate go back to being "normal people". I'm sure Kate would need some relicensing and retraining, but she could go back to nursing. Jon claims to be a computer wiz so I'm sure he could land a job somewhere. If that fails, they could rely on the State of Pennsylvania to help them.
There are many large families all over the world who live normal lives. My father came from a family of 10 children. Six of his siblings had 6 children or more. My husband is a triplet born without fertility treatments (only set ever at our local hospital) who came home to a 3 yr old and 1 yr old. The family did receive some donations, but family and friends helped them as much as they could.
What makes this family so different from anyother large family???

 

[madge]

Are you saying you do not think she is controlling Anyway since you brought up the marriage being a partnership that does not mean someone is not in charge.

being in charge, and controlling someone are 2 different things, IMO.

but to answer your question, I only know about Kate what TLC and the tabloid media want me to see... which we all know is edited. I have absolutely no idea what Jon & Kate's marriage was like.

I see you are very literal. I will try not to use metafors when addressing you.

By waters I mean the divorce/split.

I wasn't sure, since you were referencing Kate overplaying her hand in a power move in Utah in the sentences before that.

Do you really think the couch was the place for them to have marriage counseling? I think Kate was loosing control of Jon & made a power move in Utah that blew up in her face. I think they were both seeing who would give in they were in a holding pattern. I think she may have overplayed her hand with him. They are humans charting new waters.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/kate-gosselin-checks-hotel

 

[madge]

I have no idea if it's true, but it has been said that they were not offered a show because they (the parents) were not polished, among other reasons given.

Admittedly, I know very little about the Dilley family. I know they pop up in the discussion here from time to time, and they were recently on The Food Network for their 16th birthday. I read Becki's MySpace page every time they come up here. LOL.

Yes, they could cut back, but if Jon doesn't work and pay support, and if Kate goes back to work, they will have to add child care to the mix as well. I don't think either of them are employable at 'normal' jobs (just my own opinion) at this time. Plus, it's important to mention, that the parents (K & J) don't have any problems with the show continuing. So, other than the stupid Paps, why would they end it prematurely?

it seems like the discussion about whether or not they could quit and survive financially always goes back to Jon and Kate working, if they could work, what job would they do, etc. It's been estimated that they are worth millions... if that's the case, would they have to? This is all hypothetical, of course.. there's no way to know what their financial status is.

why they'd end the show, other than the paps? I can come up with reasons why they might consider it, and know that there will be a case made for the opposite side of the coin... so I'll just save myself typing and say nothing, LOLOL

 

[redrosesix]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/kate-gosselin-checks-hotel

Hmm...it says she and Jon had a "heated exchange" IMO, I'm not surprised. I'll bet he was ticked after hearing her say she was staying in the house with "her" children, and after what she said about him in the People article. Those were fighting words.

Yes, I think there is a custody battle a-brewing here.

So far, Jon has been taking the high road re discussing his soon-to-be-ex spouse (perhaps not by choice, just by a gag order courtesy of TLC). Thank god -- I'd hate to see how badly this escalates if they were both talking like that.

 

[madge]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/08/kate-gosselin-checks-hotel

yikes.

I think this might back up the claim there's no condo, especially not one nearby .. unless she didn't want the paps to follow her there.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

Hmm...it says she and Jon had a "heated exchange" IMO, I'm not surprised. I'll bet he was ticked after hearing her say she was staying in the house with "her" children, and after what she said about him in the People article.

Maybe he was having a "friend" over again.

 

[sandramaac]

What, no Four Seasons Hotel in Reading----she must feel like she is slumming it at a Days Inn Hope she remembered her slippers, because we know she doesn't walk on hotel carpets in bare feet

slap me, I just didn't say that

 

[redrosesix]

Maybe he was having a "friend" over again.

Well, I put as much credibility in stories like that as I do in the Kate's condo ones -- less actually, since real estate transactions are recorded publicly.

You can assume he's been doing that, but I won't.

 

[madge]

Maybe he was having a "friend" over again.

somebody called the cops ..

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...d-jon-and-kate-gosselins-house-after-arugment

 

[redrosesix]

What, no Four Seasons Hotel in Reading----she must feel like she is slumming it at a Days Inn Hope she remembered her slippers, because we know she doesn't walk on hotel carpets in bare feet

slap me, I just didn't say that

 

[redrosesix]

somebody called the cops ..

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...d-jon-and-kate-gosselins-house-after-arugment

Wow -- this is going to be a nasty divorce. I've heard of couples having to hand off kids at grocery stores so their ex wouldn't know where they lived, and others who did the exchange straight from school so they wouldn't have to see each other.

I'm giving cudos to whichever spouse refuses to talk about the incident publicly. That must have been horrible for the kids. Talking about it is just going to make it worse for them, because then everybody will know what happened.

 

[madge]

Well, I put as much credibility in stories like that as I do in the Kate's condo ones -- less actually, since real estate transactions are recorded publicly.

You can assume he's been doing that, but I won't.

Kate heavily hinted at overnight guests in the People magazine article. She didn't say what kind of guest .. it could be a group of card playing buddies just as easily as it could be a lady friend .. but whoever it is, Kate didn't like it.

 

[MAKmom]

I agree, but I don't think they necessarily have to get regular jobs. They would have to finish out their contract, and they make as much per show as some people make in a year. Properly invested, this would be enough income for them to live a normal life, especially once the kids are all in school (no reason they would have to be in private schools, really)

But...they'd have to cut way back on the spending if they didn't want to get regular jobs too.



Exactly what behavior are you talking about? I've worked with a lot of drug addicts and I don't see anything that would make me think that.

Here is a list I found online
Change in overall attitude/personality with no other identifiable cause.
Changes in friends; new hang-outs; sudden avoidance of old crowd; doesn't want to talk about new friends; friends are known drug users.
Change in activities or hobbies.
Drop in grades at school or performance at work; skips school or is late for school.
Change in habits at home; loss of interest in family and family activities.
Difficulty in paying attention; forgetfulness.
General lack of motivation, energy, self-esteem, "I don't care" attitude.
Sudden oversensitivity, temper tantrums, or resentful behavior.
Moodiness, irritability, or nervousness.
Silliness or giddiness.
Paranoia
Excessive need for privacy; unreachable.
Secretive or suspicious behavior.
Car accidents.
Chronic dishonesty.
Unexplained need for money, stealing money or items.
Change in personal grooming habits.
Possession of drug paraphernalia.


I saw preppy family man Jon turn into party boy then Biker dude in a few short months. Men who start using after they have been married leave their wives. They find friends that like to party, hang in bars & use drugs( haley)
They wear dark glasses all the time. Chain smoke & stop worrying about hiding it from the kid. They have a who cares attitude lets hang out with Lindsey Lohans abusive father in the Hamptons lifestyle. Lets bring the gang from the bar who really love me over to meet my kids

thats what I see.

 

[LoraJ]

somebody called the cops ..

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...d-jon-and-kate-gosselins-house-after-arugment

Probably the paps.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

Probably the paps.

Probably....nothing like more drama to sell those rags.

I hope the kids were inside with the nanny when all this happened.

 

[redrosesix]

Here is a list I found online
Change in overall attitude/personality with no other identifiable cause.
Changes in friends; new hang-outs; sudden avoidance of old crowd; doesn't want to talk about new friends; friends are known drug users.
Change in activities or hobbies.
Drop in grades at school or performance at work; skips school or is late for school.
Change in habits at home; loss of interest in family and family activities.
Difficulty in paying attention; forgetfulness.
General lack of motivation, energy, self-esteem, "I don't care" attitude.
Sudden oversensitivity, temper tantrums, or resentful behavior.
Moodiness, irritability, or nervousness.
Silliness or giddiness.
Paranoia
Excessive need for privacy; unreachable.
Secretive or suspicious behavior.
Car accidents.
Chronic dishonesty.
Unexplained need for money, stealing money or items.
Change in personal grooming habits.
Possession of drug paraphernalia.


I saw preppy family man Jon turn into party boy then Biker dude in a few short months. Men who start using after they have been married leave their wives. They find friends that like to party, hang in bars & use drugs( haley)
They wear dark glasses all the time. Chain smoke & stop worrying about hiding it from the kid. They have a who cares attitude lets hang out with Lindsey Lohans abusive father in the Hamptons lifestyle. Lets bring the gang from the bar who really love me over to meet my kids

thats what I see.

You see what you want to see -- for example, if you go on RadarOnline, you'll see plenty of photos of Jon without sunglasses.

IMO, Jon was always the type of guy he is now, not the guy he portrayed on the show. He always had his ears pierced, always smoked, and only stopped snowboarding and biking when he married Kate. Did you really think he didn't know how to ride a motorcycle before the OCC episode?

To me, the more amazing thing is that he was able to portray the preppy image for so long.