Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[WaltD4Me]

It does sound to me, if I was a gambling person, that the show will be ending. Certainly divorce wouldn't give them all 'peace'. They need peace from the paparazzi. It would be a shame if the pap drove them to this, but it might be the only way to get peace. And once again the pap would win.

I think you might be right. Giving them all "peace" does seem to relate most to the show and the paparazzi. I wonder why they need an hour though? Maybe the crooked house show will air and then the second 1/2 will be about their decision.

 

[1stluvispooh]

We all liked the show right up until John got 'caught' and the paparazzi tried to make them look like they were horrible people and doing something wrong by having the kids on TV. Then add to that the armchair psychiatrists that knew better than their parents, how to parent, and made sure they posted all over the place, and you have a mess.

Please don't speak for me.

 

[C.Ann]

I can figure out what they were thinking---more money; freebies as in trips, clothes, toys, furniture, appliances, etc; book sales and tours and interviews of all kinds for Kate; did I mention money and freebies?

I bet TLC loves this press--creates more drama, gets people to watch and talk on boards/blogs like this. If people stopped watching and noone wrote on the boards/blogs or bought the mags with their pics on it, I wonder how fast TLC would drop them. Though TLC does seem to have a replacement show perhaps--the new sextuplets one that starts this week or next.

Uh lets pad the bank account? I love all the attention!! - that coming from Kate

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I honestly and truly wish that wasn't the case, but I don't see anything that points in a different direction.. Nothing..

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Please don't speak for me.

Maybe YOU liked the show until then, but this ******* about them has been bubbling under the surface at least a year. I began to change my opinion when Aunt Jodi disappeared, I dug a little and there you go!

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[blissventure]

Maybe YOU liked the show until then, but this ******* about them has been bubbling under the surface at least a year. I began to change my opinion when Aunt Jodi disappeared, I dug a little and there you go!

Funny you mentioned Aunt Jodi disappearing--that's when I started to wonder what the heck was going on, too.

 

[MusiqChic99]

Even if the show ends, I think the paps will still be interested in things they are doing.

I think the bed has been made and they will be laying in it for a long time.

 

[mousey]

In my opinion, the show is not the issue. Nome of this paparazzi stuff started happening until Jon got caught with the other woman. Then it just became a game with the P people to see who could catch them doing something. So it has become a frenzy that has nothing to do with the show. It is a sport to bash Kate for every little thing she does. Pumping gas, wearing heels, wearing a dress, haircut. She's not smiling, she's not playing with the kids. So many people are eating up every bit of gossip and photo that is posted every day. Ending the show will not make this frenzy go away. If you stop clicking the gossip site links and giving them traffic, maybe they will stop buying those photos. Then maybe the P people will back off. The gossip sites and witch hunts will do more damage to the kids than the actual show.

Its opinions like this that keep the train wreck show going. This has everything to do with the show. Before the show they were nobody's--thanks to the show they are somebody's--take away the show and they are nobody's once again. They say money is the root of all evil and obviously Jon & Kate care more about the money then saving their family!

 

[madge]

IF they end the show, do they think the paparazzi will go away?

not in the immediate future. I don't.

how quickly the family is out of the public eye is up to the parents. I think back to the NC vacation/show taping. Several people have mentioned that it's a private place, celebrities go there all the time and are not bothered by the media. But not Kate .. Kate had her entourage, the attention-grabbing bikinis, in addition to the film crew. So much of what she does seems to scream "see me, watch me" ... and if that isn't what she's trying to accomplish, then it isn't working. Because Kate isn't doing much right now to fly under the radar.

And make no mistake, Jon isn't any better.

I'm beginning to think that someone needs to step in on behalf of these children .. not CPS or anything like that. I'm not suggesting that at all. But I think with this new ratings ploy/episode the media circus is going to be out of control for the next few days. The children shouldn't have to be subjected to that. Maybe Carla could take them for a few days or something. I don't know. I just feel sad for them. Those children did not ask for any of this.

 

[drag n' fly]

I was reading on Perez they are announcing their divorce (possibly)?? Thank god we might actually see the end of Kate's reverse mullet!

 

[Mom2Nick]

Please don't speak for me.

Or me. I liked the show until I realized what a ***** Kate was. My dislike did not start with Jon at all.

 

[mousey]

Your right, those poor kids don't deserve this. Its bad enough watching past episodes and the looks on their faces when their mother is screaming or threatening to throw out their favorite teddy bear is bad enough. If the show ends so will the "p" people. No show--no story. They will slip right back to where they were before all the hoopala. May take a few weeks, but the media circus will end. I hope they have some counselors available for the kids--they will need it!

 

[madge]

We all liked the show right up until John got 'caught' and the paparazzi tried to make them look like they were horrible people and doing something wrong by having the kids on TV.

not all of us ...

 

[blissventure]

Your right, those poor kids don't deserve this. Its bad enough watching past episodes and the looks on their faces when their mother is screaming or threatening to throw out their favorite teddy bear is bad enough. If the show ends so will the "p" people. No show--no story. They will slip right back to where they were before all the hoopala. May take a few weeks, but the media circus will end. I hope they have some counselors available for the kids--they will need it!

You are correct on many points.
The kids don't deserve this, period. If the show ends the p people will gradually go away. They will be busy covering someone else's train wreck.
And counseling, the entire family needs it. Most especially, Jon and Kate. They need to own that they will be parenting as a team for many, many years to come, whether they decide to stay married or not.

 

[newtodis]

And I personally think it's "terrible" what Jon & Kate are exposing their children to.. Without the children as "props" (as they were in that particular incident - no reason for them to be there whatsoever) there isn't a show (at least until such time that Kate gets her own talk show or whatever it was that she has been saying she wants) .. I think we can at least "respectfully" agree (or maybe disagree) on that aspect.

My understanding is that the older girls were being "interviewed" (from reading here I'm guessing they were just asked a couple of questions). The little kids have been on several interviews with them that I can recall - Oprah sticks out in my mind for sure. It seems kids are always included in interviews regardless of if they're going to actually answer any questions or not - like if there's a family accident and a child was in the car but survived, if Good Morning America is going to have the family on, they generally have the child on too - not just the parents (just made that up as an example). I don't think the child (who is not being interviewed) is a "prop" no. So yes, I'd like to respectfully disagree on that.

While your children are "working" while doing chores, that's not exactly the same as "working" on a tv set - wouldn't you agree?

No honestly, work it work and it's different in every family around the world. If my family was on tv, I would certainly expect my children to sit quietly if they were invited for an interview. Since we're not on tv, they have to do chores to help mommy out. You're a family (IMO) and you all have expectations in certain situations. Would Mady have been expected to wait if they were sitting in church or should the service stop because she's in need of a drink?

I guess to me I think a big deal's being made out of a small, edited tape that was put on the internet. Thankfully we're able to discuss our thoughts and opinions about that. As always, I think there's more to the video than what we're shown. I looked at the situation as what I would do if it were me and how I would respond to a child speaking "whine". Maybe I just have higher expectations of my children or maybe I'm just mean because I didn't have the "warm and fuzzy" family growing up or maybe it's a combination.

IF they end the show, do they think the paparazzi will go away?

No I think they know the p people will be around for awhile. I almost wonder if it would make it worse because people wouldn't see them weekly on tv and rely solely on the "rag mags" for their information....I also don't see them just falling off the radar altogether. I think both J&K are smarter than that and know they "need" the p people around to keep the money coming in.

Of course, I'm going to be gone! But...I'll be at AK while the show is on, so that makes up for it.

I would think so! I'm sure the details will all be here! Have a great time!!

I think you might be right. Giving them all "peace" does seem to relate most to the show and the paparazzi. I wonder why they need an hour though? Maybe the crooked house show will air and then the second 1/2 will be about their decision.

I hope it's not like the premier where the "problems" are spread throughout the episode. Say what you need to say and be done with it....

"We"? Please don't include everyone in that group

Please don't speak for me.

I don't think the PP meant the "general we" - I think she was referring to her family.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

New poster here

I was also shocked by the episode change... it is so confusing.

First I was expecting the Mothers Day Brunch Episode... and then it was the Cute Play Houses, and now DISASTER looms with this one hour special right out of left field (started airing the previews last night during first time home buyer show?) ... probably due to the ratings decreasing as the tabloid J&K watchers have run due to a lack of "REAL" drama

I continue to love this show, and have appreciated it for it what it is - I get to enjoy some easy entertainment and I have no problem with the family getting generously paid for doing their job. I think the kids most likely enjoy the show, and certainly LOVE the attention - which I believe helps with only 2 parents and 8 kids

I've enjoyed reading this board in the past, and hope to have things to post in the future - if there is one for J&K....

Dunt dun dunnnnnnn <3 L

Welcome to the thread!

 

[Luvmy4boys]

Don't know if someone else has posted this but....

TVGuide Channel has a special coming up on Sunday 6/21 "Jon & Kate: Is it too Late" - Experts discuss their relationship and where it is going.

E Channel has a special coming up on Thursday 6/18 "Jon & Kate: Separate Lives" - Their stormy relationship has people wondering if divorce is in their future.

 

[TanyaLovesPooh]

We'll just have to agree to disagree, because I don't see making a child wait a few minutes, while an ADULT gets a drink emotionally abusive.

Yes, my children are important, but should they really be #1 in everything?

I get what you are saying. There seems to be a generation of kids growing up that believe the world owes them something, a sense of entitlement.

 

[newtodis]

I get what you are saying. There seems to be a generation of kids growing up that believe the world owes them something, a sense of entitlement.

So agree!!

 

[newtodis]

I don't recall if this article's been posted or not:

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Raising-Sextuplets-Parents-1006812.aspx

Bryan and Jenny Masche vow their new show on WE TV, Raising Sextuplets — and their marriage — will not come under fire like Jon and Kate Gosselin. If anything, the Masches say Jon & Kate Plus 8 will be their guideline for what not to do.

"I'm like, 'Oh my gosh, that's scary. How can we protect our family and do this and have fun without anything negative happening?' I think we're both wise enough to learn from those mistakes [of the Gosselins], instead of thinking, 'Well, that would never happen to us," Jenny told New York's Daily News.

Sextuplets follows the Masches and their sextuplets, who turn 2 on Thursday, the day of the premiere. The couple has "ground rules" for themselves and the show, which films the Lake Havasu City, Ariz., family five days a month. The Masches will end the series — spawned from a 2007 special — if a family member wants to quit. Jenny, a physician's assistant in an ER, and Bryan, a pharmaceutical salesman, are also determined not to treat the series as a means of getting a paycheck.

"[Jon & Kate Plus 8] has really changed who those people are. It went from being a show about people who have sextuplets and twins to a show about people who have a show. Neither of them even work anymore," Bryan said.

Fellow reality-TV mom Tori Spelling agrees that Jon & Kate isn't quite the show it once was. The actress, who co-stars with her clan on Home Sweet Hollywood, told Extra that Jon & Kate has gone to "an odd place" amid all the media reports and scrutiny about the couple's rocky marriage. The latest Us Weekly reports that Jon cheated on Kate on her birthday.

"I loved the fact that they were a normal family; they weren't in Hollywood," Spelling said. "It's hard for me now to see them on the cover of People magazine... I hope they're prepared for what they are going through and just know that this too shall pass. ... Good luck to them."

 

[newtodis]

Don't know if someone else has posted this but....

TVGuide Channel has a special coming up on Sunday 6/21 "Jon & Kate: Is it too Late" - Experts discuss their relationship and where it is going.

E Channel has a special coming up on Thursday 6/18 "Jon & Kate: Separate Lives" - Their stormy relationship has people wondering if divorce is in their future.

Here are the times for anyone who wants to watch:

TVGN Sun, Jun 21
5:00 PM Jon & Kate: Is It Too Late?
TVGN Sun, Jun 21
5:30 PM Jon & Kate: Is It Too Late?
TVGN Sun, Jun 21
8:00 PM Jon & Kate: Is It Too Late?
TVGN Sun, Jun 21
11:00 PM Jon & Kate: Is It Too Late?
TVGN Mon, Jun 22
1:00 AM Jon & Kate: Is It Too Late?


E! Thu, Jun 18
11:30 PM Jon & Kate: Separate Lives New
E! Fri, Jun 19
3:30 AM Jon & Kate: Separate Lives
E! Fri, Jun 19
9:30 PM Jon & Kate: Separate Lives
E! Sat, Jun 20
10:30 AM Jon & Kate: Separate Lives
E! Sun, Jun 21
12:00 AM

 

[MichelleVW]

I get what you are saying. There seems to be a generation of kids growing up that believe the world owes them something, a sense of entitlement.

Yep.....that's what I was saying!