Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[madge]

If this is true that they are indeed splitting up for real and this is the way they are announcing it I am totally disgusted by the whole thing, Jon, Kate, TLC and all the hangers on. <snip>

But that is just WRONG on so many levels. The whole ball of wax if thats the way they are going to do it. They don't owe me an explanation as a viewer and that is a horrid way to get ratings and exploit a family on TLC's part if this does indeed turn out to be the way things are going to go down......

I totally agree with this. 100%.

I won't be watching, though. I made that mistake in the season opener. I'm not doing it again.

 

[Promomx2]

I figured it out!! Why Kate has acted like she has for the past few months. It's the combination of the chemicals in tanning, her highlights and the starbucks.

 

[DMRick]

Actually, what Kate did by taking a drink and not letting the little girl take a drink was harmful to the child. Kate is showing and telling her daughter that she is more important than her. This is emotional abuse.

IMO it showed that Kate was busy at the moment, might have had a lot on her mind, thinking about what she was going to say in the interview, and Mady could wait the 5 or 10 minutes for a drink. If waiting for a drink showed Mady that Kate was more important, and was emotional abuse, I can see why so many kids are screwed up and needing help. Half of America must be abused..especially those in schools, where the teacher has a bottle of water on her desk and the kids can only get drinks on their way to the next class,or at recess.

 

[MusiqChic99]

We'll just have to agree to disagree, because I don't see making a child wait a few minutes, while an ADULT gets a drink emotionally abusive.

Yes, my children are important, but should they really be #1 in everything?

I suppose it differs among parents but in our house our son is #1 in everything.

I dont know if that's how it "should" be but that's just how my dh and I feel.

 

[madge]

Didn't they get the Crooked Houses before the OCC episodes? I thought I remember a point where Mikey is trying to get into one of the houses the kids are playing in when he was hanging out with the them...just trying to figure out when all this stuff was filmed...

judging by the clothes that they were all wearing in the commercial for that episode, I'd say it was filmed before the OCC episode.

 

[Lyssb]

I think based on the newest commercial we are not going to see the crocked house episode the one that I saw is not previewing the crocked houses!!!!!!!!!!!!!

New poster here

I was also shocked by the episode change... it is so confusing.

First I was expecting the Mothers Day Brunch Episode... and then it was the Cute Play Houses, and now DISASTER looms with this one hour special right out of left field (started airing the previews last night during first time home buyer show?) ... probably due to the ratings decreasing as the tabloid J&K watchers have run due to a lack of "REAL" drama

I continue to love this show, and have appreciated it for it what it is - I get to enjoy some easy entertainment and I have no problem with the family getting generously paid for doing their job. I think the kids most likely enjoy the show, and certainly LOVE the attention - which I believe helps with only 2 parents and 8 kids

I've enjoyed reading this board in the past, and hope to have things to post in the future - if there is one for J&K....

Dunt dun dunnnnnnn <3 L

 

[MichelleVW]

I suppose it differs among parents but in our house our son is #1 in everything.

I dont know if that's how it "should" be but that's just how my dh and I feel.

Do you never make your child wait until you are done with something, or Johnny says, "I want a drink" and you instantly stop what you're doing and run to get it?


In my house my marriage comes first, and kids need second. Kids will only be here for a few more years and I want my marriage to be here longer than that.

I really think the kids are #1 attitude is why every child that plays soccer has to get a trophy and we don't keep score, because we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, and think they are a loser...blah blah blah...but that's a rant for another day!

 

[madge]

I read this article in Parents magazine this morning. It's about the sextuplets on WE tv. The magazine had a little blurb by one of the pictures that one of the editors or someone (sorry can't remember the details!!) is going to have a special on like July 16 (I'll have to go home and re-read the date...it was too early this morning!!) to "interviene" (not the word they used but I can't remember...sorry!) and show the family how to discipline the kids. If it's 7/16, I'll have to DVR as we'll be in DISNEY!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31106490/ns/parenting_and_family/#storyContinued

have a great time!

Just to show how crazy this whole MESS has gotten .. I was reading a Jon & Kate fan board this morning, and they were bashing this family... and some of the comments were as cruel (about the kids) as I've seen said about the Gosselin kids. Geez, what is wrong with people?!

 

[madge]

just passing this one along ... mainly because I think it highlights how completely out of control this whole thing has gotten. seriously.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/jon-gosselin-caught-smoking-his-joint

Jon & Kate need to be left alone.

Jon & Kate need to get out out of their contract and off TLC.

This needs to end NOW.

 

[lucas]

just passing this one along ... mainly because I think it highlights how completely out of control this whole thing has gotten. seriously.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/jon-gosselin-caught-smoking-his-joint

Jon & Kate need to be left alone.

Jon & Kate need to get out out of their contract and off TLC.

This needs to end NOW.

Everyday it is something with these people!

 

[MusiqChic99]

Do you never make your child wait until you are done with something, or Johnny says, "I want a drink" and you instantly stop what you're doing and run to get it?


In my house my marriage comes first, and kids need second. Kids will only be here for a few more years and I want my marriage to be here longer than that.

I really think the kids are #1 attitude is why every child that plays soccer has to get a trophy and we don't keep score, because we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, and think they are a loser...blah blah blah...but that's a rant for another day!

Of course there are times when I tell my son he has to wait a minute. That doesn't mean he isn't #1. However I would NOT take a drink of drink and say "just a minute" on getting his drink. There is a clear difference in this. I'm sure you see that.

My marriage is just as important as my son. I dont neglect either one of them. In fact to me that are on the same level and should be treated with the same respect. Obviously I want my son to see his parents in a strong relationship and I want him to know we have a strong relationship with him too. We do a lot of family things but our couples needs are never neglected either. I think I have a healthy balance of both.

I dont believe my son needs a trophy if he wins a soccer game. Competition isn't an issue right now since my son is only 3 but it won't be pushed in my house. That doesn't mean my son won't feel important in my house.

I just feel it's normal for me to give my son more then I give myself. And you can do that without your child having a spoiled attitude. It's not like I give my son everything he wants. But I would definitely make sure he was fed and hydrated before myself.

 

[nuke]

just passing this one along ... mainly because I think it highlights how completely out of control this whole thing has gotten. seriously.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/jon-gosselin-caught-smoking-his-joint

Jon & Kate need to be left alone.

Jon & Kate need to get out out of their contract and off TLC.

This needs to end NOW.

That is a regular old cigarette. He's holding it like a joint but it's ridiculous that they are saying it's something other than a cigarette.

I agree that it's out of control and they need to stay inside or out back for a few weeks.

 

[longstangetrip]

I am tired of talking about "watergate" as I'm sure most of you are. I have to say my bigger problem is Kate drinking the water, not Kate making Mady wait. It's rude. I know there are two distinct schools of thought on this, and that's okay. Also in the three schools my kids attend, they can always have a water bottle with them at their desks. Even teachers that don't allow "food and drinks" allow water. At the school I teach at, we can't deny kids bathroom or water access. If it becomes a distraction, we work out something mutually acceptable. For many years this has never been a problem. Just my two cents. You know how in this age of social networking, blogging and twittering no one can have an unuttered thought!

and also...that DOES NOT look like a filtered cigarette to me. Jon doesn't smoke tobacco that I've ever heard of. But the tumbleweed; I've read that several times.

 

[MichelleVW]

just passing this one along ... mainly because I think it highlights how completely out of control this whole thing has gotten. seriously.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/jon-gosselin-caught-smoking-his-joint

Jon & Kate need to be left alone.

Jon & Kate need to get out out of their contract and off TLC.

This needs to end NOW.

You're not kidding....

 

[Mom2Nick]

just passing this one along ... mainly because I think it highlights how completely out of control this whole thing has gotten. seriously.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/jon-gosselin-caught-smoking-his-joint

Jon & Kate need to be left alone.

Jon & Kate need to get out out of their contract and off TLC.

This needs to end NOW.

They will be left alone as soon as nobody cares anymore and that will not happen until Jon and Kate stop allowing their lives to be filmed. Until then this is what their lives will be and they have no right to complain as they hold the key to putting a stop to it all.

 

[newtodis]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/06/jon-gosselin-caught-smoking-his-joint

This is terrible IMO. When did Jon start smoking? Does it go with the "cool" biker/bar persona he's trying to get into? I'm sorry to be critical, but I just don't see where it came from...I certainly hope he isn't smoking around the kids - that's all I would care about. I for his sake, I hope he's not smoking in the house...that's a b---- to clean (dad and step mom are VERY heavy smokers).

have a great time!

Just to show how crazy this whole MESS has gotten .. I was reading a Jon & Kate fan board this morning, and they were bashing this family... and some of the comments were as cruel (about the kids) as I've seen said about the Gosselin kids. Geez, what is wrong with people?!

Thanks!! Taking DH and DS4 for their birthday and it's a SURPRISE! (of course DS2's coming too! ) I'm taking 7/14 off work to pack everything then throw it in the van and figure out how to "hide" it so DH doesn't guess what's going on. Should be a darned good surprise!

I agree things have gotten crazier - it seems like it's a new level since like the season premire. I know people were critical of them before but harsh or rude comments should never be written about the children - I so hope they never google themselves and are just kept from this mess as much as possible.


Just a question - What will happen to the kids when things do go back to "normal" some day??? I mean for the little ones, they've never lived without cameras and a crew and stuff. How do you think they'll adjust to not being the center of attention once the cameras are gone??

 

[newtodis]

Here's the commercial I think is being referred to as the "new" commercial. I hadn't seen it before so it was new to me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkdOHbtY1E

 

[MusiqChic99]

Here's the commercial I think is being referred to as the "new" commercial. I hadn't seen it before so it was new to me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkdOHbtY1E

This should just be called Jon & Kate. The plus 8 part just doesn't apply anymore.

 

[blissventure]

This should just be called Jon & Kate. The plus 8 part just doesn't apply anymore.

Another possible new name (guess we'll have to wait and see if it's appropriate)

Jonless Kate

 

[Hollywoodhaha]

I hope yall with the water issue know that the video was edited.

In one shot she is holding water and in another she isn't. For all you know, after she took a sip she could have given it to her. It was edited.