Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 4

[happygirl]

that's not what McDiser said.

I'm sorry that how I took it. I thought she was hoping Kate would learn a lesson. Then I went back and reread it where she said it would be horrific.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

I've thought the same thing. That this was all a ploy for more books/shows/seasons.

I can totally see people buying the book, look how well her other books did. The last one was basically a scrapbook and people bought that.

Last day of summer vacation? It hasn't even started here yet.

We stop working with the kids (I work with the at-risk kids in our public school system) a couple weeks before school's out so they can finish out the year with everyone else, so I got out for summer on May 8. However, I start summer programs tomorrow until August 7. Then I host summer camp for kids who don't have anywhere to be during the remaining two weeks of summer at our house. Then back to school/work.

 

[DreaGirl]

We stop working with the kids (I work with the at-risk kids in our public school system) a couple weeks before school's out so they can finish out the year with everyone else, so I got out for summer on May 8. However, I start summer programs tomorrow until August 7. Then I host summer camp for kids who don't have anywhere to be during the remaining two weeks of summer at our house. Then back to school/work.

Wow, that is a lot. That is great though that you do all of these things for the kids.

 

[madge]

http://www.kansascity.com/stargazing/story/1218990.html

Is Life and Style Weekly a tabloid? Do they pay for stories? I've never heard of it.

 

[TotalSnowWhite]

Wow, that is a lot. That is great though that you do all of these things for the kids.

It really is fun, but very tiring.

OK, off to run errands...really, I swear...here I go...

 

[renae3]

Hi everyone. I just went back and looked at the beginning of Kate's first book and how she writes how wonderful jon is at being a husband and father and how he will always be there through difficult times....that made me very sad.

 

[madge]

OK, off to run errands...really, I swear...here I go...

I am too .. it's page 15 .. wonder where it will be when I return?

oops. it's page 16.

 

[happygirl]

http://www.kansascity.com/stargazing/story/1218990.html

Is Life and Style Weekly a tabloid? Do they pay for stories? I've never heard of it.

It looks like a tabloid to me. I'm not sure if they pay for stories I have never read it

 

[Mermaid02]

Kate looked very sad last night.... when Jon got to the party, you could tell she was uncomfortable (as most women would be to see their philandering husband).

Jon looked like he had just come off a bender while on the conversation couch- at one point I even thought he was slurring his words.

I hate to see people all over Kate for her speaking engagements and book signings.... she's a working Mom.... get over it.

 

[TiggersPal]

Trying to catch up!

 

[happygirl]

Trying to catch up!

Good luck on that LOL it's the never ending thread lol

 

[kidshop]

Kate looked very sad last night.... when Jon got to the party, you could tell she was uncomfortable (as most women would be to see their philandering husband).

Jon looked like he had just come off a bender while on the conversation couch- at one point I even thought he was slurring his words.

I hate to see people all over Kate for her speaking engagements and book signings.... she's a working Mom.... get over it.

She doesn't write or speak about being a working mom though.....

 

[happygirl]

She doesn't write or speak about being a working mom though.....

Her book was all about her being a mom??

 

[3prettyprincesses]

She doesn't write or speak about being a working mom though.....

Her book was all about her being a mom??

Here's the actual description:

In Multiple Blessings, Kate Gosselin shares the gripping details of her rollercoaster ride of emotional highs and lows when she discovered she and her husband, Jon, would be expecting sextuplets while still basking in the light of their twin girls' toddlerhood. Strongly encouraged to consider selective reduction for the sake of both mother and babies, she and Jon instead decided to accept the extreme challenge God had handed them. After suffering the long and winding road of infertility, the young couple felt stressed but blessed as they fought valiantly to help their babies survive the fight for their lives. Kate reveals excerpts from her private journal as she describes the daily struggle to carry the babies for thirty weeks. In addition to their uphill medical battle, the family suffered many emotional setbacks such as the loss of Jon's job, forcing the pair to look to God as their sole provider and sustainer of life.

After the miraculous birth, the couple coped with months of neonatal intensive care for their newborns as well as Kate's physical recovery from such complete and prolonged bed rest. Later as the entire family of ten finally arrived home reeling with exhaustion, they still managed to feed, bathe, clothe, and monitor the health of their fragile infants as a steady parade of necessary and helpful volunteers turned their home and family life into a public arena.

The young family lived moment to moment at first, not knowing what each new day would bring and how they would survive on such depleted sleep, money, and emotional reserves. However, as the months progressed, they grew into the next stage of development, proudly letting go of yesterday and looking forward to a brighter and ever-changing tomorrow. Their small home was soon filled to capacity with six cribs, six bouncy seats, several changing tables, never-ending piles of laundry, tubs of colorful toys, stacks of diapers, cartons of formula, rows and rows of bottles, bibs and pacifiers, two triplet strollers, six car seats, and so on. Yes, life was hectic and cramped, but with each major milestone Jon and Kate rejoiced at the miracles that unfolded around them. The crew of six growing babies along with their proud big sisters, Madelyn and Cara, did their part to fill those rooms with squawking, squealing, laughing, and of course, a healthy dose of crying. Kate and Jon eventually came out of the fog of the first precarious two years feeling eternally grateful for the love and support of family, friends, community, and indeed a nation. More important, they felt the ever present hand of a faithful God upholding them and giving them just enough strength and courage to take one day at a time.

 

[happygirl]

Here's the actual description:

In Multiple Blessings, Kate Gosselin shares the gripping details of her rollercoaster ride of emotional highs and lows when she discovered she and her husband, Jon, would be expecting sextuplets while still basking in the light of their twin girls' toddlerhood. Strongly encouraged to consider selective reduction for the sake of both mother and babies, she and Jon instead decided to accept the extreme challenge God had handed them. After suffering the long and winding road of infertility, the young couple felt stressed but blessed as they fought valiantly to help their babies survive the fight for their lives. Kate reveals excerpts from her private journal as she describes the daily struggle to carry the babies for thirty weeks. In addition to their uphill medical battle, the family suffered many emotional setbacks such as the loss of Jon's job, forcing the pair to look to God as their sole provider and sustainer of life.

After the miraculous birth, the couple coped with months of neonatal intensive care for their newborns as well as Kate's physical recovery from such complete and prolonged bed rest. Later as the entire family of ten finally arrived home reeling with exhaustion, they still managed to feed, bathe, clothe, and monitor the health of their fragile infants as a steady parade of necessary and helpful volunteers turned their home and family life into a public arena.

The young family lived moment to moment at first, not knowing what each new day would bring and how they would survive on such depleted sleep, money, and emotional reserves. However, as the months progressed, they grew into the next stage of development, proudly letting go of yesterday and looking forward to a brighter and ever-changing tomorrow. Their small home was soon filled to capacity with six cribs, six bouncy seats, several changing tables, never-ending piles of laundry, tubs of colorful toys, stacks of diapers, cartons of formula, rows and rows of bottles, bibs and pacifiers, two triplet strollers, six car seats, and so on. Yes, life was hectic and cramped, but with each major milestone Jon and Kate rejoiced at the miracles that unfolded around them. The crew of six growing babies along with their proud big sisters, Madelyn and Cara, did their part to fill those rooms with squawking, squealing, laughing, and of course, a healthy dose of crying. Kate and Jon eventually came out of the fog of the first precarious two years feeling eternally grateful for the love and support of family, friends, community, and indeed a nation. More important, they felt the ever present hand of a faithful God upholding them and giving them just enough strength and courage to take one day at a time.

That sounds like being a mom to me

 

[1stluvispooh]

Kate looked very sad last night.... when Jon got to the party, you could tell she was uncomfortable (as most women would be to see their philandering husband).

Jon looked like he had just come off a bender while on the conversation couch- at one point I even thought he was slurring his words.

I hate to see people all over Kate for her speaking engagements and book signings.... she's a working Mom.... get over it.

Allegedly

 

[kidshop]

Her book was all about her being a mom??

WORKING out of the home mom. They were doing the show so they could stay home with their kids.

 

[C.Ann]

I completely agree. I only have two children and we are always looking for free or cheap stuff to do. Everything fun that you do as a family doesn't have to be lavish.

I think I am going to turn off the show.

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My late DH and I had 8 children between us.. Exactly half of his pay check was being paid out in child support every week - plus he was responsible for health insurance, medical bills, etc.. My ex paid child support when he felt like it - which wasn't very often - was a very small amount - and never paid for anything else.. Nothing.. The fondest memories all 8 children have are of the "simple" things we did - things that cost nothing or next-to-nothing.. It was all of us being together and having fun that counted - not the "cost" of elaborate vacations..

Kudos for you to tuning out.. I wish more people would do so..

This entire show and the situation makes me sick to my stomach.

Jon and Kate have 8 reasons to WORK on their marriage and stay together.
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Sadly, I think that is no longer "on the table"..

They kept talking about doing their best for the kids and being their for the kids but THE ONLY thing those kids really need is the stability of two parents who love each other and who love them - anything less is failure. I would go live in a 2 room shack with my husband and kids before I would let money, trips, a tv show, and tabloids drive us to divorce.
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If the children were more important than the fame and fortune, that is exactly what they would do.. Apparently the children are not..
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Yup! Some of the best things we did as a kid happened in our own backyard. We had bon fires, roasted marshmallows and slept in tents. We had pool olympics, played tracball, we all had mitts and would throw the ball around. Yes we had great vacations too but what made our lives fantastic was the EVERYDAY things we did together as a family.

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I think most people would prefer that their children grow up having those sort of memories - as opposed to what these 8 little children will be looking back on someday..

I think that a family of 8 could go on vacations if the parents worked and saved for those trips. They have taken lots of trips that without the show they probably wouldn't have taken, but I feel there are lots of places they could go that wouldn't cost nearly as much as the places they have gone to.
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Once in awhile we could squeeze in a "real" vacation - over to the east coast - after having saved, scrimped, refunded, and couponing our way there.. It was fun - yet the kids still talk primarily about the simple, inexpensive things we did.. Even looking back on my own childhood, my fondest memories are the "simple" things..


I would not like it if my kids' memories were of camera's filming them all the time if I were the parent.
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But you're not Jon & Kate.. Obviously one (or both) feels that this is a "good" way of preserving their childhood memories - complete with mommy and daddy sitting on separate couches sniping at each other and pretty much announcing to the world that their marriage is over..

I have also seen on a episode Kate say that the kids like watching the dvd of their show.
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The DVD's being another source of income for these "poor" financially strapped parents - should they decide to pull the plug on their show..

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Someone upthread (sorry it is moving fast) said that it is okay because the kids have always had cameras around. Why is that okay? I grew up with two parents that smoked. Is that okay? I asked them to stop when I was around 8-9 and they both did. Some children are around abuse from the minute they are born, is that okay? That is their normal. Obviously none of those things are okay. These kids have no voice and it is obvious (at least to me) that their parents are not looking out for their best interest. Unless you consider matching clothes and fancy vacations their best interest. I consider a healthy relationship between their parents, a loving non-stressful environment, and privacy in their best interest.
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"These kids have no voice.." Exactly what I have been saying all along..

Remember the sign Mady hung on the door that had a big frown face that said "No cameras!" I don't think she was very happy that day..

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I remember that episode.. Poor kid.. She has enough issues already - without having to hang a sign on her door..

And didn't they comply with her request? They didn't continue to film at that moment.

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Complying would have been editing out that section.. Did that in some way make the show more enjoyable? Entertaining??

J&K are fine even though they are exploiting their kids, showing private moments (ie: potty episodes and vomit) for the world to see, writing books to capitalize on the cuteness of their kids, fighting around the kids, broadcasting to the world that their marriage is in shambles which the kids will be able to watch on DVD and so on. Sorry but all of THAT is much more damaging and "scummy"

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And although we are not to believe that anything Kevin & Jodi have said, I guess we're supposed to believe that Kate doesn't "cook" because Kevin said so.. Hmm.. Are we to believe them - or not??

I have no idea who their friends are or who they hang with (well, I guess I do know who Jon hangs with). I only get to see what TLC wants me to see.
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Kate herself said that all they have left is the crew and the people they work with (publicist, body guard, etc.).. So she herself alluded to the fact that the only "friends" they (or at least "she" has) are those mentioned..

As for the kids saying they don't like the camera's..who knows how that conversation went. I imagine it could be like this "I heard you got in trouble for hitting your brother" "Yeah, I hate the camera's..they see everything."

And why would it make a difference how or why it was said? Hating the cameras is hating the cameras..
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I sincerely hope that everyone here - and everyone who is making comments all over the internet in regards to their feelings over this exploitation will hold true to their word and not tune into this farce of a show any longer.. Forget about Jon & Kate - follow your heart if you believe this showing is damaging to 8 little children who have no voice in this matter..

 

[jpaxton1118]

Oh my goodness. I stopped reading last night around 9 pm and I have not been able to read today and now we are on #4 and already on page 16?!?!?! It looks like I will be up late tonight catching up.

 

[madge]

Her book was all about her being a mom??

a mom who quit her job to be home with the kids... that's how it started, although now it's evolved to being just a mom like everyone else