Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 3

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At this point (if season 5 continues), I really wonder about their contracts. What do they stand to lose if they pull out now? Yes, money isn't everything, but in this world, it's a whole lot. Would they lose the house, hired help, car(s)? If they lost that, I wonder if they have the finances to continue providing for a family of ten.

I've wondered about this too. But I also was thinking and wondering, IF they decided to divorce, would Jon get anything? Since this is "Kate's Show", she would probably see to it that he doesn't get any of their profits or savings.
Maybe it's stated in their contracts IF they separated, how the money from the show would be divided.
 
This past weekend I watched the two specials about the family that aired before they had their regular show. The shows really made me feel sad for Jon and Kate, because back then they seemed to have a strong marriage. It seemed like they were stressed of course, but that they were working together to conquer obstacles that came up.

Now it just seems like they've decided that the money and not having to worry about financial stress makes up for everything else. I would imagine, whether they admit it or not, that they are now seeing that money can't make up for a lot of things.

I hope they take some time and examine what's going on in their marriage right now. And if it comes down to it, I hope they would walk away from the show and its money before walking away from each other. Those kids need their parents.
 
Do I remember this correctly? IIR Jon had been a "wild child" when he was younger was not as religious as Kate even when they were first married. I wonder is she molded him into the perfect Christian husband and he is finally going back to the person he really is. I just seem to remember that they talked about their early years together and he seemed less religious. Of course, I could just be pulling this out of my butt!

What do you Jon and Kate experts remember?
 
On the Green special, Kate acted terribly (IMHO). She didn't want anything to do with anything that was going on, she didn't pay the children any attention, even when they were obviously vying for her affections, and I think she paid the dogs more attention than her own kids. I even noted that she kept leaving while all the work was going on and the kids were still in the yard. Jon and Kate barely said three words to one another.

I think these two have been over for a long time. They're still together for the show and for the kids, most likely.
 

I think these two have been over for a long time. They're still together for the show and for the kids, most likely.

I would like to think they're together for the kids. I hope that's their priority. It's a little difficult to buy into that right now .. Kate's traveling all over the place, and Jon isn't home with the kids at night. It doesn't seem like they're together for any other reason than money. And by that, I mean they have more together than apart.
 
I would like to think they're together for the kids. I hope that's their priority. It's a little difficult to buy into that right now .. Kate's traveling all over the place, and Jon isn't home with the kids at night. It doesn't seem like they're together for any other reason than money. And by that, I mean they have more together than apart.

I totally agree! Well put. :thumbsup2
 
I'm not so sure about that ... I don't know that it sounds all that improbable to me. Check out the scene, see if it's worth coming back? I knew guys like that in high school, back in the day .. they thought their mere presence was gift to everyone. :rolleyes: Here's the thing I found weird. Jon allegedly hates the celebrity, but it sure isn't keeping him from standing around outside in his cool car, drawing attention to himself. Immature, sophomoric behavior. Lame.




I don't think he really wants a job. Not really. I think he wants out of his marriage, and this is as good of an excuse as anything. For as much crap as Kate gets for contributing to this? Jon's the one at fault here. He's behaving like the spoiled, selfish guy that people (blog people) claimed he was before marrying Kate.


I agree. I don't think he wants a job either. I can remember them talking about when they met, and Jon saying that he was basically doing nothing, living on his mom's couch. I think he wants to, in a way, go back to that. I think if he and Kate were to split up, he would most likely go back to living with his mom ect. I think a large part of him, probably just wants to get rid of any/all responsibility. It sounds like, he was a pretty spoiled/had everything done for him when he was growing up, and then he met Kate, and she basically made him be a grown up (granted 8 kids is a lot more of a responsibility than the average person.) Honestly, I think part of him really does want to be a good Dad/husband ect., but I also think part of him wants to go back to basically being a kid again. I'm not sure if it has so much to do with wanting just out of his marriage, as it does just not wanting to have responsibilities:confused3
 
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I think we saw what really made him happy during the ski trip with Cara. He likes to be laid back, not on a schedule and outside doing physical activity. He even commented to the helper there that he used to work at ski mountain and he loved it. I think "surfer dude". This is not compatible with the life he has and I think that is essentially what is at the heart of his issues...being "on stage" all the time and all the responsibility are dragging on him. Now I know that he made these choices, but I just think he has now realized how far away from his true self he is and he is unhappy.
 
We are just a family who smacks butts

Ok I've read all the updates and I have to say this (above) is what stood out! :rotfl:

I need to go back and read the links to the articles but yikes! Things are not looking good for them right now..... Ok off to read the links then come back and read the expert opinions :thumbsup2 (that's how I refer to you at home "the J&K experts" said... because you all know so much and are great about sharing it in a calm and respectful way!!)
 
I would like to think they're together for the kids. I hope that's their priority. It's a little difficult to buy into that right now .. Kate's traveling all over the place, and Jon isn't home with the kids at night. It doesn't seem like they're together for any other reason than money. And by that, I mean they have more together than apart.

That's how I feel too. I hope they stay together for the kids, my parents divorced when I was 10 and my sister only 7 and it was very hard on us. Maybe J&K can realize how traumatic divorce or even separation would be for all their kids. Unfortunately though, their actions are speaking quite clearly....Kate is promoting her book across the country and Jon is at the local bar without his ring and with a female "friend". Doesn't paint a pretty picture of a healthy marriage now, does it? I'm sure the $ is playing a HUGE part in all this too. :sad2:

I agree. I don't think he wants a job either. I can remember them talking about when they met, and Jon saying that he was basically doing nothing, living on his mom's couch. I think he wants to, in a way, go back to that. I think if he and Kate were to split up, he would most likely go back to living with his mom ect. I think a large part of him, probably just wants to get rid of any/all responsibility. It sounds like, he was a pretty spoiled/had everything done for him when he was growing up, and then he met Kate, and she basically made him be a grown up (granted 8 kids is a lot more of a responsibility than the average person.) Honestly, I think part of him really does want to be a good Dad/husband ect., but I also think part of him wants to go back to basically being a kid again. I'm not sure if it has so much to do with wanting just out of his marriage, as it does just not wanting to have responsibilities:confused3

I totally agree!:thumbsup2 He doesn't sound like he's come from a responsible background. Kate has said numerous times that he's come from a home where he's had everything and she's had nothing. Sounds like he was spoiled like you said and then Kate marched into his life and became his drill sergeant!:lmao: I too believe he wants to be a good father and I think the kids adore him. But he's acting like a child, well actually more like a freshman in college partying out with his frat bro's! He's going backwards. :confused3

I think we saw what really made him happy during the ski trip with Cara. He likes to be laid back, not on a schedule and outside doing physical activity. He even commented to the helper there that he used to work at ski mountain and he loved it. I think "surfer dude". This is not compatible with the life he has and I think that is essentially what is at the heart of his issues...being "on stage" all the time and all the responsibility are dragging on him. Now I know that he made these choices, but I just think he has now realized how far away from his true self he is and he is unhappy.

I agree, he seemed very at ease on the ski trip with Cara. But who can be on a ski vacation for their whole life? Definitely not compatible with the life HE and KATE chose. They chose to have a family using fertility methods and knew the possible scenario going in. Now they have all these beautiful kids and I'm sure wouldn't trade them for anything. But Jon needs to get a grip and come to terms with his life. I don't think he's going to be able to do that at the bar! Life is full of responsibilities, even more so when you have kids because now you're responsible for their well-being. He can't escape that and I bet that's a big part of his "acting out".

He's seems very conflicted. He seems to love all the perks of the show (trips, trips, trips, new home, car, clothes and the list goes on...) but doesn't enjoy the publicity of it all. Right, so he goes out to a local bar in a town he lives in where I'm sure nobody would know him:lmao:and brings his snazzy new car. That won't draw more attention to him will it??

What's ironic is that the whole show is based on them being a f-a-m-i-l-y. That's what drew us all into their lives, the everyday things they were doing. That's where the charm was, you know? Who knows what will happen but I'm guessing the show will be done. If J&K had any scruples they'd take a looooooong break and focus on their marriage and kids. Only time will tell....:confused3
 
It is a 2-seater, which is not practical at all for a man with 8 kids. He could have found a nice car that has a back seat that still is sporty.

Since Jon hasn't held a job outside of the show since 2007, I guess the show. I really hope they are putting away money for all the kids since they have the show because of the kids.



With the was dealerships are functioning right now, I doubt they gave him the car for free. I guess it is a possibility though.

I think Jon is showing off his car because he is an immature person. He's a "look what I got" type of person.

I understand about the economy, but big ticket cars are sitting on the lots. The dealerships are sitting on these cars. When they let their salesmen, or prominent people in their towns drive cars, they only charge $15 lease fee a month, and the leasee has to pay just that, and the insurance.
The dealership, just got a ton of publicity, national publicity for that type of car. Free. Free Advertising. It is exactly what dealerships hope for. But then the dealership, takes the profit from each department, to make the payment on the vehicle. It used to make me so mad, when I would read my dh excel sheet, and it would show how much he had to pay from his department, to pay for Green Bay Packers vehicles. It was ridiculous.
 
It is a 2-seater, which is not practical at all for a man with 8 kids. He could have found a nice car that has a back seat that still is sporty.
What good would a back seat be if you have 8 kids? Seriously, a car that holds 4 or 5 people would be just as impractical since it doesn't hold everyone.

In the spirit of full disclosure my convertible has 4 seats, but I only have 1 child.
 
What good would a back seat be if you have 8 kids? Seriously, a car that holds 4 or 5 people would be just as impractical since it doesn't hold everyone.

In the spirit of full disclosure my convertible has 4 seats, but I only have 1 child.

Well, in Jon's case, a two seater would be practical for his trips to the bars (won't be taking the kids there).

And, it would just be so UNCOOL to drive up to the bars in his mini-bus. :rotfl:
 
I understand about the economy, but big ticket cars are sitting on the lots. The dealerships are sitting on these cars. When they let their salesmen, or prominent people in their towns drive cars, they only charge $15 lease fee a month, and the leasee has to pay just that, and the insurance.
The dealership, just got a ton of publicity, national publicity for that type of car. Free. Free Advertising. It is exactly what dealerships hope for. But then the dealership, takes the profit from each department, to make the payment on the vehicle. It used to make me so mad, when I would read my dh excel sheet, and it would show how much he had to pay from his department, to pay for Green Bay Packers vehicles. It was ridiculous.

I really don't know anything about car dealerships, but after reading your post, you are totally right. Maybe that is why he didn't care that someone else was driving his new car, or maybe he was too drunk to drive it, who knows.


What good would a back seat be if you have 8 kids? Seriously, a car that holds 4 or 5 people would be just as impractical since it doesn't hold everyone.

In the spirit of full disclosure my convertible has 4 seats, but I only have 1 child.

I agree, both are impractical, but with a car that holds 4-5 at least he could take some of the kids out or if he is making a grocery run they could come with him. :confused3
 
[And, it would just be so UNCOOL to drive up to the bars in his mini-bus. :rotfl:
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But then again, Jon could seat more girl "friends" or coeds in the minivan.:lmao:
 

But then again, Jon could seat more girl "friends" or coeds in the minivan.:lmao:[/QUOTE]

How right you are! :teeth:
 
No facts, just a hunch. I think they have been separated, not living as husband and wife for a while. I think he is at the house (or the crib as juvenile Jon said) when Kate isn't. I think he was near his mom or with his mom when this started. They probably can't go public with their divorce/separation due to tv contracts, but he is going public by way of his actions. I don't think he sees what he is doing as wrong or disrespectful; I don't think they're together.
I think he has acted for months during the couch interviews like he doesn't want to breathe the same air as Kate. I bet the house is DEFINITLEY hers and her idea. Obvioulsy 8 kids can't go back and forth between residences, so he does his Dad duty when she is traveling, but obviously has a nanny too. I am only going with my feeling, not facts. It is very sad; whatever is going on isn't an intact, healthy marriage. I don't think a whole bunch of kids has been their demise, but the show.
 
No facts, just a hunch. I think they have been separated, not living as husband and wife for a while. I think he is at the house (or the crib as juvenile Jon said) when Kate isn't. I think he was near his mom or with his mom when this started. They probably can't go public with their divorce/separation due to tv contracts, but he is going public by way of his actions. I don't think he sees what he is doing as wrong or disrespectful; I don't think they're together.
I think he has acted for months during the couch interviews like he doesn't want to breathe the same air as Kate. I bet the house is DEFINITLEY hers and her idea. Obvioulsy 8 kids can't go back and forth between residences, so he does his Dad duty when she is traveling, but obviously has a nanny too. I am only going with my feeling, not facts. It is very sad; whatever is going on isn't an intact, healthy marriage. I don't think a whole bunch of kids has been their demise, but the show.

I heard on one of the nightly celebrity shows that he is living in the apartment above their garage. Don't know how true it is.
 
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