Jon and Kate Plus 8 official Thread, Part 2!!

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Thanks for the timeline. It starts to get confusing when so many things are going on in real time & the show time.
 
I wonder if TLC keeps track of the schedule of events at the nearest arena (Wachovia Center?) and if anything looks remotely interesting, they arrange for a shoot there. It looked like "Sesame Street Live" and the Harlem Globetrotters were in the same place (judging by the background of where they had the meet and greets).
The Globe Trotter event was at the Sovereign Center in Reading, PA. That would be the closest arena to them. Sesame Street Live was at the Giant Center in Hershey, PA. That arena is also fairly close. I have been to both and they are nice places to see shows.

I would highly doubt they would see events at the Wachovia Center (Philly) as it is a bit of a drive with lots of traffic. Plus, it is huge and getting in and out is a nightmare. And Philly fans can be :scared1:

I actually got the opposite impression of this. I didn't think he was being cute, but that he was being a miniature Kate!
I thought it was so interesting how Kate was commenting on how all the kids were raised in the same house, the same way, with the same parents and yet they all turned out so different. Aaden is obviously one of those kids that just doesn't like being messy. A bunch of the others could have cared less. They have the perfect environment to see how different kids can be! I know Kate gets a lot of flack for not letting the kids "be kids" and get messy, but I think we are really starting to see that the individual child personalities play just as big of a role as Kate.

The trip to the museum and art gallery were filmed while Jon was away at his mom's.The Harlem Globetrotters game was around this time, as well -- early March?
The Globetrotters were in Reading, PA on Wednesday, February 25th.
 
I wonder if the reason Jon doesn't want to do the show any more is specifically because of the pictures and the fact that he got "caught" with them.
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I also thought of this, too. Why would he wait after 4 seasons, get all the freebies, trips, etc. and then decide this isn't for him?
 

I always`wondered about the whole aunt jodi thing....Does it makes `sense that TLC would volunteer to pay her without any prompting??...It doesn't to me...what makes more sense to me is that Aunt Jodi wanted to be paid by TLC and TLC would not pay her "enough"...so she pulled out of appearing on the show.
My BIL works in tV production for the BBC and he thinks this is the most likely senario...he says TLC would have not just decided oh lets pay good ole Aunt Jodi for apperaring..It must have come from Her.
If this is the case I can't blame Kate for being annoyed with her SIL.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

I heard that TLC was going to pay AUnt Jodi, but KATE didn't want her to be paid for being on the show. This was from the Gosselins Without Pity website
http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/
 
I always`wondered about the whole aunt jodi thing....Does it makes `sense that TLC would volunteer to pay her without any prompting??...It doesn't to me...what makes more sense to me is that Aunt Jodi wanted to be paid by TLC and TLC would not pay her "enough"...so she pulled out of appearing on the show.
My BIL works in tV production for the BBC and he thinks this is the most likely senario...he says TLC would have not just decided oh lets pay good ole Aunt Jodi for apperaring..It must have come from Her.
If this is the case I can't blame Kate for being annoyed with her SIL.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

You know....that makes total sense to me.

I heard that TLC was going to pay AUnt Jodi, but KATE didn't want her to be paid for being on the show. This was from the Gosselins Without Pity website
http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/


I wouldn't put much stock in what that hate website says.
 
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I think I meant the Sovereign Center in Reading.

Then, I'm stumped. Why would they see the Harlem Globetrotters? Jon wasn't interested and I'm sure the kids didn't care. I can't imagine the Globetrotters thinking "Hey, let's invite the Gosselins!". Unless one of their wives is a fan of J&K+8 and suggested it.

I wonder if TLC keeps track of the schedule of events at the nearest arena (Wachovia Center?) and if anything looks remotely interesting, they arrange for a shoot there. It looked like "Sesame Street Live" and the Harlem Globetrotters were in the same place (judging by the background of where they had the meet and greets).

The Globe Trotter event was at the Sovereign Center in Reading, PA. That would be the closest arena to them. Sesame Street Live was at the Giant Center in Hershey, PA. That arena is also fairly close. I have been to both and they are nice places to see shows.

I would highly doubt they would see events at the Wachovia Center (Philly) as it is a bit of a drive with lots of traffic. Plus, it is huge and getting in and out is a nightmare. And Philly fans can be :scared1:


I thought it was so interesting how Kate was commenting on how all the kids were raised in the same house, the same way, with the same parents and yet they all turned out so different. Aaden is obviously one of those kids that just doesn't like being messy. A bunch of the others could have cared less. They have the perfect environment to see how different kids can be! I know Kate gets a lot of flack for not letting the kids "be kids" and get messy, but I think we are really starting to see that the individual child personalities play just as big of a role as Kate.


The Globetrotters were in Reading, PA on Wednesday, February 25th.
 
alot of it is written by people that know them.

Do they know them personally? Aside from Jodi's sister, I haven't seen one blog from anyone who claims to have day-to-day contact with any of them. And Jodi's sister was obviously biased.

I think the "Jodi negotiating for a bigger salary" scenario sounds the most logical. I notice that Kevin hasn't said a word.
 
I always`wondered about the whole aunt jodi thing....Does it makes `sense that TLC would volunteer to pay her without any prompting??...It doesn't to me...what makes more sense to me is that Aunt Jodi wanted to be paid by TLC and TLC would not pay her "enough"...so she pulled out of appearing on the show.
My BIL works in tV production for the BBC and he thinks this is the most likely senario...he says TLC would have not just decided oh lets pay good ole Aunt Jodi for apperaring..It must have come from Her.
If this is the case I can't blame Kate for being annoyed with her SIL.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

I was thinking the same thing. Seems a little strange that she was on the show for a while and suddenly they are going to offer her a contract.

I wrote a blog entry about Aunt Jodi's video back in August -- and even though Jodi is no longer on the show, that entry still gets hundreds of hits a week. There will be an occasional comment, and last week someone posted that it is a matter of public record about some of what went on with Jodi. No idea if it's true or not. If that is true, and someone can produce evidence to support one side or the other .. why isn't that all over the internet? :confused3

There was one person on your blog that said it was a part of public record and that there was a court case that appeared to be about J&K paying Jodi for babysitting but I can't find the PA court records. It says that is cannot be found when I click on the link for it.
 
I heard that TLC was going to pay AUnt Jodi, but KATE didn't want her to be paid for being on the show. This was from the Gosselins Without Pity website
http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/

Alright, so here's my opinion of the Aunt Jodi thing. Obviously I have no idea what really happened or didn't, but I remember reading something about Kate being quoted as saying nobody gets paid from our family/kids, but us. A lot of ppl. gave her a lot of flack for that comment (whether or not it was true:confused3.) My opinion, even it is true, I can kinda understand it, and honestly it's their life and they should get to make that decision. Just for the kids sake, I can see why a parent wouldn't want other ppl. having a stake at what happens to the show, just because you never know what influences ppl. to make certain decisions, so Kate may have just been trying to prevent anyone else (family/friends, obviously TLC will, but to me that's different)trying to pressure them ect. into doing things that they might not have wanted to, because they had money at stake as well. Don't get me wrong, I think Aunt Jodi and anyone else that I saw on the show, absolutely loved those kids to death, but still you never know, and it could be unconsiously, so I can kinda see Kate's point.

I will say, I saw the video with Aunt Jodi, and honestly it made me lose a lot of respect for her. I'm not sure why she'd make a video to post on the internet...I don't know why she would think it would be that important to say she/her sister were right about the situation. :confused3

I really hope that for all involved, that they have worked things out and are still able to spend time together away from the show or at some point in their lives they're able to.
 
I think I meant the Sovereign Center in Reading.

Then, I'm stumped. Why would they see the Harlem Globetrotters? Jon wasn't interested and I'm sure the kids didn't care. I can't imagine the Globetrotters thinking "Hey, let's invite the Gosselins!". Unless one of their wives is a fan of J&K+8 and suggested it.



Kate mentioned that they were invited by the GlobeTrotters. She said some of the Globetrotters liked to watch their show on their bus. One of the GT had his own camera and was taking pictures. I also saw Kate with a camera during the 2nd half. She stopped one of the GT coming off the court with one of the kids and told him to stop and back up, so she could take a picture. I was wondering if she had his camera or her camera.
 
alot of it is written by people that know them.

I don't buy that either...one of the people claiming to know them was a total fake.

Alright, so here's my opinion of the Aunt Jodi thing. Obviously I have no idea what really happened or didn't, but I remember reading something about Kate being quoted as saying nobody gets paid from our family/kids, but us. A lot of ppl. gave her a lot of flack for that comment (whether or not it was true:confused3.) My opinion, even it is true, I can kinda understand it, and honestly it's their life and they should get to make that decision. Just for the kids sake, I can see why a parent wouldn't want other ppl. having a stake at what happens to the show, just because you never know what influences ppl. to make certain decisions, so Kate may have just been trying to prevent anyone else (family/friends, obviously TLC will, but to me that's different)trying to pressure them ect. into doing things that they might not have wanted to, because they had money at stake as well. Don't get me wrong, I think Aunt Jodi and anyone else that I saw on the show, absolutely loved those kids to death, but still you never know, and it could be unconsiously, so I can kinda see Kate's point.

I will say, I saw the video with Aunt Jodi, and honestly it made me lose a lot of respect for her. I'm not sure why she'd make a video to post on the internet...I don't know why she would think it would be that important to say she/her sister were right about the situation. :confused3

I really hope that for all involved, that they have worked things out and are still able to spend time together away from the show or at some point in their lives they're able to.

You took the words right out of my mouth. That video was really dumb and even if it was true it pretty much lowered my opinion of Jodi.
 
Kate mentioned that they were invited by the GlobeTrotters. She said some of the Globetrotters liked to watch their show on their bus. One of the GT had his own camera and was taking pictures. I also saw Kate with a camera during the 2nd half. She stopped one of the GT coming off the court with one of the kids and told him to stop and back up, so she could take a picture. I was wondering if she had his camera or her camera.

Shows you how much I pay attention to the details!!
 
bbsak. You must be close to the family or their friends. I noticed you have posted only since this month. I am curious as to why this is.



If they were poor,struggling, working class, I don't think Kate would receive as much negative comments.

I still will watch the show and hope for less turmoil for the family.
 
Jon & Kate were not responsible for the treatment that any other spectator may or may not have received at the event.

The Globetrotters invited the Gosselins to the show, and then invited them back stage where the Globetrotters presented the Gosselins with gifts. If the other audience members felt slighted, then perhaps they should complain to the Globetrotters manager or agent.


I didn't say that they expected to receive goodie bags, only that I am tired of seeing it and that I felt that they were unnecessary and that I would have liked to have seen those things given to special needs kids rather than the Gosselins if they were given at all.

I didn't say, nor imply that J&K expect to receive special treatment. I was merely passing on speculation about why the children received boos when introduced - based on direct statements from people who attended the game. The consensus of the people sitting in the area behind and to the right of J&K's floor seats was that the boos were related to special treatment of the Gosselin kids rather than the group of SN kids. I simply wondered if after these same people saw the show with the Gosselin's receiving goodie bags backstage during halftime, if they were even more dismayed. Bro and SIL did not participate in the booing, they were merely present.

I'm not suggesting, nor implying anything. I'm simply relating direct comments made to me by eyewitnesses and my own observations and opinions of those observations.
 
Jon & Kate were not responsible for the treatment that any other spectator may or may not have received at the event.

The Globetrotters invited the Gosselins to the show, and then invited them back stage where the Globetrotters presented the Gosselins with gifts. If the other audience members felt slighted, then perhaps they should complain to the Globetrotters manager or agent.

Bingo!
 
Jon & Kate were not responsible for the treatment that any other spectator may or may not have received at the event.

The Globetrotters invited the Gosselins to the show, and then invited them back stage where the Globetrotters presented the Gosselins with gifts. If the other audience members felt slighted, then perhaps they should complain to the Globetrotters manager or agent.

I couldn't agree more!!
 
I don't have time to read all of the posts since Monday's show, so I apologize if this has been written but I had a thought. When Kate was talking about the new "helper", she made it very clear that she was a helper and that they would NEVER have a nanny. I'm wondering if maybe Jon suggested hiring a full time nanny so that he could go back to work outside of the home. He certainly couldn't do it now because Kate travels so much, but if there were a full time nanny he could. Kate was just so adamant about not having a nanny, it made me wonder. I felt really bad for Jon last night.
 
As far as the comments about Jon not complaining about his identity or tired of the public eye, we don't how often he's expressed this. We're only going by what TLC showed us Monday night. It's obvious there was tension between Jon and Kate and he's looked unhappy for several episodes. I'd bet he's been complaining to Kate for some time now behind the scenes.

I think too that the kids personalities are coming through...Aaden not wanting paint on his face but Leah or Alexis (can't remember) rubbing their hands all together and looking completely happy at being messy. I don't think Kate is turning them all into her, know what I mean? Honestly, I think the kids look very normal, with normal kid behavior. Imagine having 5 other siblings your age and then 2 siblings who are older? There's going to be tantrums and outbursts.

As far as the Aunt Jodi thing, I don't know what I believe. If she loves those kids as much as she says, then why publicly cause tension and strife in their home? I felt it was a bit over the top for her to make a video like that. Of course the flip side of that is maybe Kate did do what she's claiming and there's a bitterness there. It's hard to say when we don't know the facts for sure. I do think it's strange that both Beth and Aunt Jodi are missing on the show but who can say for sure what the reason is? Anyhoo, that's my 2 cents! :goodvibes
 
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