Jodi Arias Trial Part 4, starting with redirect of "expert" Dr Samuels, March 19


OK Judge, you told the jury to be back at 1:25pm - that means you too!! ... :)
 
Some additional questions.

Did you see the judge's expressions when it appeared she's overwhelmed with more questions? I bet she's gonna try to read the questions even faster, make the witness answer quicker so the jury can't keep asking even more questions. :rotfl:
 
I don't think the DT looks pleased with the questions. I need to go to the store.
Well if they hadn't picked such an idiot for a "doctor".....

I'm excited to here who Juan brings in for the rebuttal...

Now THAT should interesting....
 
I just read on WS that Travis' family did not comply with taking off the blue ribbons. Good for them!
 
I love these questions,,, especially the one earlier about if she was diagnosed with any other disorders not mentioned so far. His answer was that he diagnosed her with a personality disorder not specified or something like that. I hope JM goes further into that and forces the dr to elaborate.

Before trial coverage started today.. they showed the video of the interview where she acted strange when the detective left the room, he led her to believe that the camera card was destroyed for quite a long time of their interview, I think all her antics were during the time she was thinking that without the camera/pictures there was no proof she was there. She had an air of confidence that she was getting away with it, I may be wrong and I will have to check the time codes to see when she did the handstand, hair flip etc.. Also many people might not think they are being recorded in a police room like that since it was set up like an office and not the kind with a mirror wall etc. Plus Det Flores made it reference as though he went to her local station for that interview and not one in AZ. Just my 2 cents..

Off to work now, I'll catch up with you all later.
 
Did you see the judge's expressions when it appeared she's overwhelmed with more questions? I bet she's gonna try to read the questions even faster, make the witness answer quicker so the jury can't keep asking even more questions. :rotfl:
Could you imagine if there's a mistrial and they retry this case? I think she'd quit rather than preside over another JA trial, if it had to be her. I know Judge Fidler did both Phil Spector trials, but those weren't as long and obnoxious.

Wow. Just googled the Phil Spector trials, and maybe they weren't as obnoxious, but definitely long! The first trial began on March 19, 2007. On September 26, 2007, Judge Fidler declared a mistrial because of a hung jury (10 to 2 for conviction).

The retrial of Spector for murder in the second degree began on October 20, 2008,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Spector#cite_note-44 with Judge Fidler again presiding; this time it was not televised. The case went to the jury on March 26, 2009, and nineteen days later, on April 13, the jury returned a guilty verdict.

Cannot imagine 11 months of Jodi Arias. They'd be taking this judge out in a straitjacket.
I'm excited to here who Juan brings in for the rebuttal...

Now THAT should interesting....
Me too. I'll perk up then. :thumbsup2
Maybe 30 minutes or so.

They have a friggin commercial every 3 minutes.
Plus, add in the time it takes to announce a commercial, and that you won't miss a minute because they're pressing pause and HLN is the only place where you'll catch the whole Jodi Arias trial, and then the announcement when they come back that you haven't missed anything because it was paused and that they'll now get back to the trial. :rolleyes:
 
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#TravisAlexander family says they were told #JodiArias def requested they remove ribbons. Family refused. Supporters complied w/ #Arias req


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Female #JodiArias juror lets out loud cackle as juri leaves #Arias ctroom for lunch
 
03/21/13

1. Are you only allowed to testify about a clients conversations with their consent?

2. In fight/flight scenario, does the body choose either to fight or flee? Can both of these happen at the same time?

3. Can memories that are blocked during fight/flight return over time or are they lost forever?

4. How can we be certain your assessment of JA isnt based on lies she has made (by her own admission) over the years?

5. Did you use hypnosis on JA to attempt to recover her memory? Did anyone else use it?

6. During fight/flight scenario, do you believe its possible these memories do exist?

7. If someone with that experience could draw from photos/journals/videos or other methods, couldnt they extract some old, forgotten memories also?

8. Are there other psychologists/doctors who have different opinions on the items you testified about or is there 100% agreement?

9. You said acute stress disorder can be diagnosed within 2 months of the event. You diagnosed JA with this, yet you didnt have the first discussion with her until 2009, which is more than 6 months after the event. Can you clarify?

10. What dates did JA take the tests on?

11. Can you be sure JA is not lying to you about the events that happened on June 4, 2008?

12. Would the shutdown of the hippocampus be affected by a persons control over the event  for example, a soldier bursts into a room to kill someone vs an individual jumps out at a soldier on a routine patrol.

13. In regards to the events on June 4, do you feel JA had suppressed memories or are they missing entirely?

14. If you feel she had suppressed memories, did you try hypnosis? If no, why not?

15. As a professional, what steps do you take to make sure that someone has truly lost their memory or suppressed it as opposed to just lying?

**I lost feed momentarily here and may have missed one & **

16. To your knowledge, was JA tested more than once on any of the tests?

17. When you meet with someone, are you definitely able to tell when theyre lying or telling the truth, or are you basing that on perception?

18. You said JA never said anything negative in her journal, yet she said she wished suicide was a way out and that TA made her sick/happy/sad/miserable. Are those considered positive statements?

19. Are there other disorders in the DSM4 book that would list the same or similar experiences?

20. Is there a science to explain why some people can recall events and others cant when involved in something traumatic?

21. How do you ask your questions when you interview someone? Do you ask leading questions, such as do you have memory loss or do you have nightmares?

22. You said before that 3-8 people out of 100,000 experience transient global amnesia  now youre saying 3-8% of people, which is a much higher number. Which is right?

23. You said transient global amnesia can be caused by sex, immersion in hot/cold water, among other things  is this list all-inclusive or can TGA be associated with something such as a bad haircut?

24. Is JA taking any medications to treat this terrible PTSD?

25. This question is in reference to the Time article in the presentation. The second point highlights the officers process shutting down as an example. If your process shuts down, how did JA get so much done on the day TA was killed?

26. Did you diagnose any conditions that werent covered in the testimony? If so, what are they?

27. When you use the word appears in your explanation of patient condition, does that mean youre not 100% sure?

28. Are your opinions based on what the patient tells you about what happened to them?

29. In extreme shock events where the hippocampus blocks the formation of memories, can the brain still function to make a rational decision during that time?

30. When you talked about intrusive thoughts, did you use the word actors? If so, what did you mean by actors?

31. Regarding the tremors/shakes you witnessed with JA. How can you tell they are caused from PTSD or memories rather than JAs fear of her future or of being found guilty?

32. Did you see JA shaking before she mentioned it to you?

33. Are the actions a person performed while the hippocampus is overwhelmed by trauma be considered autopilot or non-reasonable reactions?

34. Are actions while in this state reflective or consistent with ones core personality? Can these actions be extreme opposite to that (the core personality)? For example, a mile pacifist becomes a brutal person? Can the mind choose when the hippocampus is overwhelmed?

35. In the process of killing someone, isnt it possible/probably that adrenaline output would increase whether someone was in fight/flight mode or in the middle of a premeditated killing? (JM objected here, sustained, and it was re-asked as a yes/no only question). If not, why not?

36. You have compared JAs PTSD multiple times to police officers/soldiers. Do you think thats fair since they kill as part of their job/duty?

37. Is there a diagnosis for selective amnesia?

38. Would you continue evaluating a person who you felt wasnt being honest with you?

39. Why didnt you re-administer the test once JA admitted to killing TA?

40. It seems that 30-35 hours isnt enough to evaluate someone who has killed another person, especially in the traumatic way as JA did. Wouldnt you agree this is inadequate to evaluate and diagnose JA?

41. Is MMPI test used for anything other than therapy, such as validation for specific job requirements?

42. In reference to JAs diagnosis for PTSD  when did you catch the errors in your report? Do you feel they were big errors?

43. You said in re-direct JA remembers the beginning/end of attack; therefore, she would have memories of the attack after it ended, such as cleaning up, deleting the pics, taking the gun, etc., correct?

44. Can acute stress occur if someone plans to kill vs defending themselves when in danger? (JM objected, sustained, must answer as yes/no only)

45. Do you often make mistakes in your reports when you do evaluations?

46. Can you tell us where JA said she was when she came out of her fog after the killing?

47. You seem to have issues with omitting or not-including information. Dont you think its important to have the complete info for a trial such as this?

48. Why didnt you complete a new PDS when JA changed her story? If the answers were based on the intruder story, how can you be sure she has PTSD when the answers were based on a different story?

49. Do you consider yourself to be an impartial 3rd party in this case?

50. Do you always develop a fond relationship with all the individuals you evaluate?

51. Do you still think its appropriate to purchase gifts for JA while evaluating her, or do you think you stepped over the ethical line?

52. For D2 criteria, you mention the phone call between JA and her mom. Can you explain what happened during the call, and why it fit into the criteria? Wouldnt anyone having a fight over the phone with their parent fit the criteria?

53. In your professional opinion, do you think someone able to confront their boyfriends/women theyre cheating with is displaying assertive behavior?

54. Do medications cause any of the amnesias you have described?

55. Since you didnt meet with JA until Dec., 2009, isnt it fair to say youre not 100% sure she suffered from acute stress?

56. Under cross, you admitted JA having anal sex was relevant to the diagnosis. Then under re-direct, you said it wasnt relevant. Please explain this inconsistency.

57. When a patient changes their story, misrepresents it, or doesnt tell you the truth, doesnt that raise a red flag?

58. Sending a self-help book doesnt seem to insure success of the evaluation, but would help to insure success of therapy  would you agree?

59. You said under re-direct if someone is making a story up, their story is consistent, correct? If so, if JA is making up the current story, wouldnt it make sense that her story is consistent?

60. You said you reviewed interviews with JAs family/friends as part of her evaluation  who conducted those interviews?

61. Are there validity scales on PDS tests? If so, were JAs validity scores out of normal range?

62. Does your code of ethics/guidelines explain what youre supposed to do if you believe someone to be suicidal or of potential harm to themselves? If so, what are they?

63. Can you review your notes regarding JA being tied up by hands/feet and TA climaxing as he cut the rope  was this the day of the killing?

64. Why do you believe JAs self-esteem was low early on in her relationship with TA since this is way before you ever evaluated her?

BREAK  Noon recess

65. In your years of experience, wouldnt you say low self-esteem is normal in the general population?

66. How did JAs test results go towards the diagnosis of PTSD if she was still telling the intruder story when she took the test?

67. Within the normal population for any given test, if a segment of individuals lied, could that cause a loophole in that test that could allow for a client taking the test to lie without being detected?

68. Is there an assumption those in the general population are answering truthfully?

69. Isnt it possible that a hypothesis formed early on about a client could skew the results when evaluating the tests when the individual the hypothesis was formed on takes the tests?

70. Could that hypothesis affect/color how the evaluator reads/interprets the tests, interprets crime scenes, conducts interviews, etc.?

71. Based on the dissassociative amnesia article, do you agree 3-8/100,000 people studied is a very minute number?

72. Regarding the fight/flight response by JA on June 4, was there any discussion between the two of you regarding her response and why didnt she flee from the bedroom?

73. Is it normal for you to fill out answers for questionnaires for people you are evaluating? Do you have concerns about errors/inconsistencies?

74. If a patient you were seeing consistently lied and kept to that story, then answers tests or is evaluated, how could the test/evaluation reveal they are lying, especially if they remain consistent in those lies?

75. You said JA answered the way she did on Q13 on PDS test because of repeated physical/mental abuse by TA  she explained this to you in the session after the test. But when she took the PDS test, wasnt she still telling the intruder story and wasnt yet talking about the abuse by TA?

76. Are Q16-21 on PDS based on the events listed in Q14, in time frame in Q15, which would be the intruder story from 3-6 months ago? If yes, this event never happened, so those answers are based on fiction. Are Q16-21 used for overall score for PTSD?

77. Do you feel comfortable diagnosing a person with any condition if they keep lying to you?

78. Regarding Q29 on PDS test, not being able to remember important parts of a traumatic event  JA scored it as a 1, which meant it didnt bother her often. Considering she killed TA and claims she suffered considerable memory loss, isnt this significant?

79. Given the TIME article mentioned that homicide victims have memory loss, can a person plan/commit murder and suffer from post-stress disorder? Even if intentional, is it possible the event would be considered stressful?

80. If JA was in fight/flight mode when she ran out of the bathroom, why would she run into the closet and corner herself?
Wouldnt someone in fight/flight mode want to get away from danger? Would they want to get help from someone?

81. Are you able to say JA had either PTSD and/or acute stress disorder before June 4?

82. Would someone who planned to kill someone else, then does it, be less likely to suffer acute stress than someone who killed someone accidentally?

83. Is it possible that JA didnt write anything negative about TA because there wasnt anything negative to write about?

84. If someone has suppressed their feelings repeatedly, would it be a natural reaction, once the dam breaks (for example, the gunshot that hits TA), for those repressed feelings to express themselves in carrying that violence to the extreme (such as stab wounds, etc.)?

85. If something is premeditated, is amnesia more or less likely to occur?

86. You said JA didnt have control of what her mind was doing during the killing  if so, how do you explain her dragging TAs body and then trying to clean up the crime scene?

87. In earlier testimony, you said once you found out the true story, you should have re-tested for PTSD, but you didnt because of oversight. Just now you said you didnt retest because you thought the score would remain the same  which is right?

88. Was there anything in the book you gave to JA that would have altered her responses to testing or your questions?

89. How can you be sure JA did things to please TA when you never had a chance to speak to him?

90. How do you know JA didnt kill TA out of jealousy?

91. Are acute stress/PTSD the only diagnoses that would present the criteria in the DSM4 book, or do those criteria appear in any other possible diagnosis?

--Judge asks for any other questions  one more in the basket 

92. You just said JAs physiological symptoms didnt appear until after June 4. Did she ever talk about those type of symptoms occurring before then?

03/25/13

93. In your office, do you have books you would willingly offer to patients for free?

94. Are you able to view external information on this case, such as websites, news, or any other medium?

95. Did JA tell you she had purchased a gun in July ’08 in order to kill herself? Did she tell you about her plan to kill herself using a razor while she was in jail?

96. What is the difference in covering up and creating an alternative reality?




**Transcribed mostly in my own words to the best of my ability.**
 







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