Jesus wasn't resurrected

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Didn't read anything but the title of the thread and my thought is,

BULL CRAP (didn't think crap but it's DIS appropriate.) Yall can argue and debate all day long. The simple truth is He was hung on the cross and resurrected 3 days later. End of story!

Amen!!

Doesn't Cameron know these phony "Jesus didn't resurect" theories have been around along time. Hollywood is about to re-write history -- again.

 

[Amity 3]

that's why, like i said, when i meet Jesus, i'm gonna ask him myself.

he's got to be a popular guy. I wonder if he has an office and couple of personal assistants booking the meet and greets with his fans.

"Jesus won't be signing autographs today, he has a very hectic schedule, thank you in advance".

 

[LiLIrishChick63]

he's got to be a popular guy. I wonder if he has an office and couple of personal assistants booking the meet and greets with his fans.

"Jesus won't be signing autographs today, he has a very hectic schedule, thank you in advance".

Jesus has his own Meet-n-Greets

 

[poohandwendy]

Hey, if they have Dna maybe we can just clone him and ask him ourselves.

 

[LiLIrishChick63]

Hey, if they have Dna maybe we can just clone him and ask him ourselves.

no, it wouldn't be the same!

 

[poohandwendy]

no, it wouldn't be the same!

LOL, well...no it wouldn't. But it would be cool.

I read something sort of interesting about cloning yesterday. If a tortie cat is cloned, they will come out either black or red, not the same pattern as the original. Not sure why I am adding this bit of trivia. I guess I just expected that cloning was a true replica. LOL, waaaaaaaay off topic. Forgive me../

 

[JennyMominRI]

LOL, well...no it wouldn't. But it would be cool.

I read something sort of interesting about cloning yesterday. If a tortie cat is cloned, they will come out either black or red, not the same pattern as the original. Not sure why I am adding this bit of trivia. I guess I just expected that cloning was a true replica. LOL, waaaaaaaay off topic. Forgive me../

That's strange..I wonder why that is.

 

[LiLIrishChick63]

LOL, well...no it wouldn't. But it would be cool.

I read something sort of interesting about cloning yesterday. If a tortie cat is cloned, they will come out either black or red, not the same pattern as the original. Not sure why I am adding this bit of trivia. I guess I just expected that cloning was a true replica. LOL, waaaaaaaay off topic. Forgive me../

......well then let's definatly NOT clone Jesus. i don't want a red Jesus to come out, that would be weird.

 

[jimmiej]

you know what's funny? the Bible is the only religious book, out of every religion, that has been changed over and over again. i hate that. because you really don't know anymore what's "truth" and what is "man-made" from that book. that's why, like i said, when i meet Jesus, i'm gonna ask him myself.

I believe it says exactly what God wants it to say. It's all inspired by God. The Creator of the universe is, IMO, certainly powerful enough to make sure His Word is true. All the different translations help us to understand it better.

 

[LiLIrishChick63]

I believe it says exactly what God wants it to say. It's all inspired by God. The Creator of the universe is, IMO, certainly powerful enough to make sure His Word is true. All the different translations help us to understand it better.

what about the gospels that were omitted from the Bible?? those didn't say what God wanted them to say, so they got taken out?

 

[poohandwendy]

That's strange..I wnder why that is.

This is the explanation, basically looks like gestational environmental factors play a role. But they lost me after they got all technical, LOL:

This may seem an odd topic, but if you clone a tortoiseshell cat you will end up with a cat of one or other of the constituent colours and not a tortoiseshell clone. If you clone a red/black tortoiseshell, the clone will be either red (ginger) or black.

DNA tests on the tabby-and-white cloned kitten ("Cc") proved that she was a clone of her tortie-and-white genetic mother (the cat whose cell was used to create Cc). The pattern of pigmentation in multicoloured animals is the result of genetic factors combined with developmental factors within the womb. This means bad news for owners who want an exact replica of a tortoiseshell or calico cat. Why isn't Cc also tortie-and-white? The answer is due to ‘X-linked Inactivation'.

Tortoiseshell cats have two X chromosomes, one carrying the gene for orange coat colour and the other carrying the gene for black coat colour. As the embryo develops, a process called ‘X-linked inactivation’ occurs in its tissues. One or the other X-chromosome in every cell in a tortie cat embryo is randomly inactivated. This only shows up in pigment producing cells, producing the familiar tortie effect.

Regardless of which cell was used to produce Cc, because that cell is already an adult cells, one or other of the cell's X chromosomes would have been inactivated while the donor cat was an embryo. Cc had an equal chance of being orange-tabby-and-white or black-tabby-and-white, but would never be tortie-tabby-and-white. Unless a way can be found to undo X-linked inactivation at the embryo stage, owners wishing to clone a tortoiseshell cat will have to settle for a cat of a different colour entirely. If the X-linked inactivation can be reset, the inactivation is a random process so the clone will have the right colours, but not in the same places as the donor cat - it may have well-defined patches of colour while the donor cat was thoroughly brindled.

 

[LiLIrishChick63]

This is the explanation, basically looks like gestational environmental factors play a role. But they lost me after they got all technical, LOL:

that's really strange.

 

[Amity 3]

I'm sure the DNA testing is just to link the father and mother to the children in the tomb and prove they're a family.

but now you have me thinking...if Jesus is the son of God and married a prostitute, settled down and had kids...wouldn't be his dad be pretty upset with him?

my dad would have killed me if I even dated a hooker, let alone marry her.

 

[Buckalew11]

...all this debate makes me wonder what everyone thinks about Lazarus. Jesus wasn't the only one in the Bible to be resurrected from the dead. and didn't Jesus also bring someone else back from the dead, as well? i can't be sure, but i thought i read it somewhere. so there HAVE been other cases. wether or not they're true is beyond me. i'm just gonna wait until i finally meet Jesus to ask him.

The difference between Jesus raising Lazerus and the little girl from the dead and Him raising from the dead is that Lazerus and the little girl died again. Jesus was raised from the dead and did not die again.

 

[The_Horned_King]

IF jesus was who you guys claim he was...why wouldn't he forgive and forget our sins? what better way to prove that God will fogive then to love and Marry "the prostitute" as you put it. who infact wasn't a prostitute until the church began to twist the truth.

The identification of Mary Magdalene with Mary of Bethany, also led to her being identified with "the woman who was a sinner". Church fathers of the 3rd and 4th centuries considered this sin as "being unchaste". In an influential sermon in 591, Pope Gregory I identified her as a sinner ('peccatrix') who repented upon meeting Jesus, but he did not call her a prostitute ('meretrix'). That was a folk belief that arose later and many writers and artists have followed it until the 20th century

One of the biggest purpitrators of this myth was Thomas Aquinas(who btw hated women and was more then likely gay)

What bugs me about much of this if many peoples(includeing my own aunts) blind faith in a story, and believeing everything you read as truth.

My thought each their own...You believe in what you want I'll believe what I want...I don't hate you for your beliefs nor would I try to make you believe what I do. So why do so many christians feel the need to preach and attempt to convert me?(my faith begins in the christan religion,but the true meaning of it not the farse the church has made of it.)

It's a sad day when we hate on each other for our different beliefs.
Let It go..life is too short.

 

[MassJester]

My thought each their own...You believe in what you want I'll believe what I want...I don't hate you for your beliefs nor would I try to make you believe what I do. So why do so many christians feel the need to preach and attempt to convert me?(my faith begins in the christan religion,but the true meaning of it not the farse the church has made of it.)

It's a sad day when we hate on each other for our different beliefs.
Let It go..life is too short.

I don't think it's as mean spirited as you do.

Christians (and perhaps people of other faiths) believe they have had the "Good News" shared with them, and feel obligated to pass on the favor. Not interested? That's certainly your choice, and I respect that. But since it is such very good news, you can't really blame us for wanting to share.

 

[The_Horned_King]

share away.... but don't be pushy. I'm willing to listen to anyone who wants to share thier religion with me. I draw the line when people demand they are right and I am wrong (this goes for all religions not just christianity)

 

[phillybeth]

LOL, well...no it wouldn't. But it would be cool.

I read something sort of interesting about cloning yesterday. If a tortie cat is cloned, they will come out either black or red, not the same pattern as the original. Not sure why I am adding this bit of trivia. I guess I just expected that cloning was a true replica. LOL, waaaaaaaay off topic. Forgive me../

Want me to explain it?

It's bascially Lyonization, or random X-chromosome inactivation. Torties can only be female (except in very very rare cases)- females have two X chromosomes. One color is on one X chromosome, the other color is on the other X chromosome. During fetal development, 1 X chromosome per cell gets randomly deactivated. So in an adult cat you get patches and patterns of the two colors, determined by which chromosone was turned off.

In natural conceptions, the deactivation hasn't taken place yet inside the egg. However, for clones, it has. So, depending on which X chromosome was deactivated will determine what color the clone is. Pretty neat stuff.

Thus concludes our science lesson for today

 

[Saxsoon]

Interesting. Do you remember the name of the book?

Interestingly enough, the Christ clone Trilogy, but I believe Beausigneur wrote it(can't remember first name) you would find it in any religious fiction section. I believe the second or third book is called The Dawn of a New Age.

What I really liked about these books was the fact that it followed a non-believer the entire way until he was executed by the clone at which he accepted Christ. It was an interesting parallel to Left Behind, and his take on the prophecies were sometimes the same, and sometimes drastically different.

 

[Amity 3]

Thus concludes our science lesson for today

thank God for science.