Is WDW making a Cars Land or Not ??

[bellenbuzz]

I would love to have Cars Land come to WDW....
Not an Avatar fan, neither are my children or nieces or nephews...
But CARS appeals to all ages...
Any chance ??
Just curious

 

[old lady]

It would be a good idea.

 

[disneylovin24]

There are no official plans for a Carsland yet but you got to think it is going to happen someday.

As for Avatar not having universal appeal, you are talking to a very small sample size about it. The movie grossed almost 3 billion dollars worldwide and no matter what reasons people went to see it I think with numbers like that it is a safe bet that it has a decent size appeal and people will go to Avatarland. I liked the movie when it first came out but nothing I rushed to watch over and over again, the land does interest me because I think it will be interesting. Even for people that did not like the movie I think the land will be nice because anyone can enjoy a top tier ride no matter the theme if it is done right

 

[DC7800]

At one point last year, Carsland was indeed coming to Hollywood Studios. Various rumors had this with or without the Radiator Springs Racers attraction and other elements. It has since been either entirely cancelled or put on hold, depending somewhat on who you believe and maybe even on how you precisely define "hold' versus "cancelled".

The Studios could see Carsland, Carsland and Star Wars, just Star Wars, or the option they're stuck at right now - nothing at all.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

The problem is it never made sense to build it in orlando....

we've been over it 1,000 times. draw, weather, capacity issues...but whatever...

"carsland was a Go...then somebody stubbed their toe and then it was on hold...then somebody mistakenly threw out the plans with the recycling...so now its delayed indefinitely"

so says the insiders...

people really need to start analyzing the money and applying "greedy common sense" to things like this. That usually eliminates all but one answer.

 

[DanBoris]

The problem is it never made sense to build it in orlando....

we've been over it 1,000 times. draw, weather, capacity issues...but whatever...

"carsland was a Go...then somebody stubbed their toe and then it was on hold...then somebody mistakenly threw out the plans with the recycling...so now its delayed indefinitely"

so says the insiders...

people really need to start analyzing the money and applying "greedy common sense" to things like this. That usually eliminates all but one answer.

Applying "greedy common sense" to this would mean that they were definitely going to build Carsland. What executive would look at it's success in DCA and not want to clone it as many times as possible.

Personally, I thing the Star Wars acquisition caused them to change direction and instead of Carsland focus on a Star Wars expansion instead.

 

[Borishack]

At one point last year, Carsland was indeed coming to Hollywood Studios. Various rumors had this with or without the Radiator Springs Racers attraction and other elements. It has since been either entirely cancelled or put on hold, depending somewhat on who you believe and maybe even on how you precisely define "hold' versus "cancelled".

The Studios could see Carsland, Carsland and Star Wars, just Star Wars, or the option they're stuck at right now - nothing at all.

Nothing at all is what you are going to continue to see at least through this year. The faucet for new attraction development at WDW has been turned off in Anaheim.

 

[disneylovin24]

Applying "greedy common sense" to this would mean that they were definitely going to build Carsland. What executive would look at it's success in DCA and not want to clone it as many times as possible.

Personally, I thing the Star Wars acquisition caused them to change direction and instead of Carsland focus on a Star Wars expansion instead.

Very possible.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Applying "greedy common sense" to this would mean that they were definitely going to build Carsland. What executive would look at it's success in DCA and not want to clone it as many times as possible.

Personally, I thing the Star Wars acquisition caused them to change direction and instead of Carsland focus on a Star Wars expansion instead.

ok...so i'll dial it back for you.

because the average stay and expenditure (the only things they care about in orlando)...didn't spike up over what can be classified as normal inflation when they built animal kingdom....so any large scale "optional additions" at orlando would actually bleed profits...not increase them?

that's "greedy common sense"...not "people started coming back to a lagging park in california...so lets build it in florida and see if people will come extra - even though our data doesn't predict that - at parks that are by no means packed but are in nowhere near the situation DCA was in 2008"? let's spend the money cross the philanges on it...
Oh yeah...and there's about 1/2 the domestic flights available on the east coast from 20 years ago...so we're not even sure people can physically get their unless mickey starts bringing them in a rickshaw...

 

[Disflyer]

Oh yeah...and there's about 1/2 the domestic flights available on the east coast from 20 years ago...so we're not even sure people can physically get their unless mickey starts bringing them in a rickshaw...

This is a bit of a stretch since 2001 total available seats into MCO had a low of 34 million in September of 2002 and a high of 46 million in May 2008 and about 42 million available seats at last "Master Plan Update" in July of 2012

Current load factors are at about 84% compared to a low of 80%.

And in 1993 peak seat miles was 21 million.

Info is available via DOT and OrlandoAirports.net

 

[lockedoutlogic]

This is a bit of a stretch since 2001 total available seats into MCO had a low of 34 million in September of 2002 and a high of 46 million in May 2008 and about 42 million available seats at last "Master Plan Update" in July of 2012

Current load factors are at about 84% compared to a low of 80%.

And in 1993 peak seat miles was 21 million.

Info is available via DOT and OrlandoAirports.net

It's Harder for me to fly...and perhaps expanded seats are being generated by new carriers/markets?

Just a rhought

 

[wiigirl]

It would be a good idea.

 

[Borishack]

The current knowledgable buzz is that Disney wants to intentionally keep Carsland as an attraction unique to DCA. Why?

First, that investment singlehandedly brought attendance at DCA back up to profitable levels and Disney doesn't want to cannibalize that by replicating the attraction elsewhere. Or put another way, the thinking is keeping Cars just at DCA helps make the Disneyland Resort complex more of a unique long distance travel destination (unlike WDW, a large proportion of the traffic at DLR are locals; Disney has been working ever since WDW opened to try and get more long distance travelers back to DLR).

Second, the orginal second element of the knowledgable buzz was that Disney would complement the "unique" cars element by putting a unique Star Wars land in HS in Florida.

However, that thinking changed when Disney formally announced they were planning on putting Star Wars attractions in Tommowowland at Disneyland. The rumour was Star Wars would still also be added to HS in Florida, but the latest word is due to belt tightening, the Star Wars additions in CA are on hold and the ones for Orlando have been cancelled.

 

[psac]

The current knowledgable buzz is that Disney wants to intentionally keep Carsland as an attraction unique to DCA. Why?

First, that investment singlehandedly brought attendance at DCA back up to profitable levels and Disney doesn't want to cannibalize that by replicating the attraction elsewhere. Or put another way, the thinking is keeping Cars just at DCA helps make the Disneyland Resort complex more of a unique long distance travel destination (unlike WDW, a large proportion of the traffic at DLR are locals; Disney has been working ever since WDW opened to try and get more long distance travelers back to DLR).

Second, the orginal second element of the knowledgable buzz was that Disney would complement the "unique" cars element by putting a unique Star Wars land in HS in Florida.

However, that thinking changed when Disney formally announced they were planning on putting Star Wars attractions in Tommowowland at Disneyland. The rumour was Star Wars would still also be added to HS in Florida, but the latest word is due to belt tightening, the Star Wars additions in CA are on hold and the ones for Orlando have been cancelled.

As a Disney fan AND Disney investor, I find that disappointing. Spending $1 Billion on Star Wars land would have pulled a much bigger return than MDE/MBs/FP+.

 

[SashaFarce]

I thought it was a stupid idea until we went to DCA in December and saw how well-done it was. Cars Land, Star Wars Land, whatever, I love DHS but it needs a boost in a bad way.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I thought it was a stupid idea until we went to DCA in December and saw how well-done it was. Cars Land, Star Wars Land, whatever, I love DHS but it needs a boost in a bad way.

I don't think the idea is "stupid"... It is a proven property...

But logistically and strategically isn't doesn't make a heck of alot of sense.
Anaheim and Orlando are oranges and grapefruits

 

[rteetz]

I don't think the idea is "stupid"... It is a proven property... But logistically and strategically isn't doesn't make a heck of alot of sense. Anaheim and Orlando are oranges and grapefruits

I agree with you here I don't think it would be the right move for disney to copy cars and bring it to Orlando. Anaheim and Orlando are two completely different places.

 

[yitbos96bb]

1) What's your source... Saying HHS current knowledgable buzz sounds like cast member chatter which is nearly always wrong.

2) they have been nailing attendance numbers and parks are packed. The FLE was a capex spread out over several years... What belt tightening are you talking about... There is nothing that would indicate a need for belt tightening like declining numbers.

I'm guessing we will see Star Wars tie sat some point. Be a failure not too. Now I'm guessing it's planned for mid to post new trilogy.

The current knowledgable buzz is that Disney wants to intentionally keep Carsland as an attraction unique to DCA. Why?

First, that investment singlehandedly brought attendance at DCA back up to profitable levels and Disney doesn't want to cannibalize that by replicating the attraction elsewhere. Or put another way, the thinking is keeping Cars just at DCA helps make the Disneyland Resort complex more of a unique long distance travel destination (unlike WDW, a large proportion of the traffic at DLR are locals; Disney has been working ever since WDW opened to try and get more long distance travelers back to DLR).

Second, the orginal second element of the knowledgable buzz was that Disney would complement the "unique" cars element by putting a unique Star Wars land in HS in Florida.

However, that thinking changed when Disney formally announced they were planning on putting Star Wars attractions in Tommowowland at Disneyland. The rumour was Star Wars would still also be added to HS in Florida, but the latest word is due to belt tightening, the Star Wars additions in CA are on hold and the ones for Orlando have been cancelled.

 

[wdwgreg]

I think we are more likely to see a star wars themed hotel/dvc before we see a star wars land

 

[rteetz]

I think we are more likely to see a star wars themed hotel/dvc before we see a star wars land

actually I don't think so because a Star Wars themed hotel would seem to probably fall in that value category and I don't see them adding another value right now. DVC is about disney character theming, poly, the grand, BLT, none of those have extensive disney theming they have there own deluxe theming.