Is this a cheap way to get around the parking rules at the Contemporary?

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

We don't care what a CM told you. Until Disney decides to tell valet guests parking is limited, and puts that limit on the voucher, valet guests are free to park all day.

1st off all there is no need to take that rude tone with me. I was just stating what I was told, if you choose not to believe that fine that is your right.

 

[goofy4tink]

Okay.....in no way am I saying that it is okay to circumvent any rules at WDW!! Come on now......I have been told one thing about valet parking, others have been told something else. Why is what I was told 'wrong' but something else is 'right'? As for having to show resort ID in order to get into a resort parking area...it just isn't so. I've driven in, with my ds, and only been asked what my purpose was. I told the gatekeeper I was there to visit a friend. I was, in fact, telling the truth. But, the gatekeeper never checked anything..no name, room number, nothing. Same thing when my father drove to BW to spend a day with me. He was just waved through, whereupon he used valet parking services. So.....is it only at the CR that these 'other' rules hold up? I can't say for sure. All I can base stuff on are my own experiences...no questions asked at the guard shack, no 3 hr. permits given out..nothing.
But, again I am not advising breaking any rules. I'm just not altogether sure what the rules are. No one has been able to confirm any valet parking rules. Some are told one thing, others another thing.
But, in any case...I still don't think there are all that many people playing $10+ dollars for valet parking rather than pay to park at the TTC. I've walked through parking lots before, both at the CR as well as at BW, Poly, BC, POP, and have yet to see a ton of 3 hr. parking permits. Yeah, I know..you aren't going to see them at POP, but because of proximity to Epcot, you would see them at BW as well as BC. Same thing for the Polynesian and MK.

Basically, it is going to cost you the same thing to park at the CR as at TTC, but you will have to either walk back there or take the monorail, vs. the boat or monorail to TTC from MK. It's pretty close to a wash I would think. I just don't see it as a big issue. People will do what they are allowed to do. If no one tells you when you valet park that you have only 3 hrs parking, then how would you know otherwise? People will just hand over the keys and go off about their business. So.....bottom line....if valet parking is only for parking while eating/shopping at that particular resort, then it should be stated someplace. But, I have yet to see that. I have stood, at the CR, while others have valet parked, and no one has said a thing to them about where they are staying, where they are going, what they are doing. They just take the fee, and park the car. Sorry guys, but that has been my experience at the CR. No one has been questioned. So...how are they breaking any rules? How am I advocating rule breaking?
I will always tell people that refilling your mugs from a '01 stay at POP at the Polynesian this summer is basically against the written rules. As is hopping to another resort's pool. Again, there is signage to this effect. But, I haven't seen any signage about who can use valet parking, and for what purposes. Please stop suggesting that I am recommending that people ignore Disney rules!!! That is just not the case. Not to mention against board guidelines!!!

 

[goofy4tink]

1st off all there is no need to take that rude tone with me. I was just stating what I was told, if you choose not to believe that fine that is your right.

You need to understand that others have had different experiences. I have been told differently, and yes, at the Contemporary. No one is being rude...just trying to be balanced here. I realize that you may have talked to a different CM than I have so may have gotten different information. This is the problem with Disney...CMs aren't all preaching out of the same rulebook. Wish they would, it would make life a lot simpler.

 

[Lewisc]

Your entire tone in this thread is rude. I'm not sure how you can call a guest who pays to valet park CHEAP. I don't care what you were told. Disney has to communicate rules directly to guests. AFAIK valet guests are never given a time limit on their ticket nor is there a sign that limits valet parking to a specific time limit.

Guests who pay to valet park aren't cheap and there isn't any posted rule limiting valet parking.

I still wonder how Disney will be handling parking at the Contemporary if/when the new tower opens.

1st off all there is no need to take that rude tone with me. I was just stating what I was told, if you choose not to believe that fine that is your right.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I will always tell people that refilling your mugs from a '01 stay at POP at the Polynesian this summer is basically against the written rules. As is hopping to another resort's pool. Again, there is signage to this effect. But, I haven't seen any signage about who can use valet parking, and for what purposes. Please stop suggesting that I am recommending that people ignore Disney rules!!! That is just not the case. Not to mention against board guidelines!!!

Isn't this proof enough about parking at the Resorts and going to the parks?

From Allearsnet.com
Self parking at the Disney resorts is free to all guests; however some resorts have parking restrictions. The Contemporary, the Polynesian and the Beach Club give guests not staying at those resorts a 3-hour parking pass to allow shopping or dining at these resorts. Parking at any of the resorts to gain access to the theme parks is not allowed. Disney resorts may ask for a photo ID before allowing entry. Some Disney resorts may also ask for an Advance Dining Reservation number from guests who are dining at the resort before allowing access to the resort parking lot.

While they do not say valet parking in there to me that statement includes valet parking along with the regular self parking lot.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Your entire tone in this thread is rude. I'm not sure how you can call a guest who pays to valet park CHEAP. I don't care what you were told.

When I said the words cheap I meant it's a cheap way to get around the parking rules if they planned on going to the Magic Kingdom after eating in a Contemporary restaurant. I also said on this thread in a previous reply that I should not used the word cheap and said a different word.

So for the record guests who valet park are not cheap, I only think it's wrong to leave your car in a valet lot after a meal because tha goes against any WDW Resort saying parking to gain access to the MK, Epcot, MGM and AK is wrong.

 

[beattyfamily]

Disney has to communicate rules directly to guests. AFAIK valet guests are never given a time limit on their ticket nor is there a sign that limits valet parking to a specific time limit.

...there isn't any posted rule limiting valet parking.

What I don't understand is why the sign that is posted BEFORE you get to the gate/booth at CR (and other monorail resorts and BW) isn't enough for most to realize that they shouldn't park at CR all day, no matter where they end up parking (self or valet) their car.

"We do not provide parking for the Magic Kingdom"

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

What I don't understand is why the sign that is posted BEFORE you get to the gate/booth at CR (and other monorail resorts and BW) isn't enough for most to realize that they shouldn't park at CR all day, no matter where they end up parking (self or valet) their car.

"We do not provide parking for the Magic Kingdom"

I have seen the excat same sign you are referring to which should be proof enough that it includes the valet lot. So I am just confirming this proving that beattyfamily is the only one to see the sign and that should be proof enough.

 

[Lewisc]

Unoffical internet sites don't prove anything. but the parking information you quoted refers to self parking.

Most of us know monorail resort don't give out three hour parking passes when the resort isn't busy. I've never heard of a 3 hour parking pass ever being given to valet customers. Again the question is what, offiical Disney information, is being given to valet customers. Are they told valet parking is time limited? Then there isn't any rule.

You have two different situations. A guest is going to the MK and decides to park in the Contemporary. A guest is going to the Contemporary, breakfast at Chef Mickey's for example. That guest is not parking at the Contemporary to obtain access to the MK but is parking to obtain access to the restaurant. Can a guest continue to park at the Contemporary after their meal? Self-parking guests, who are given a 3 hour pass, can't. Valet guests can, until Disney decides to put a limit. Disney knows a guest doesn't take 10 hours to have breakfast at Chef Mickey's. Disney will put a limit on valet parking if they have a problem.

Isn't this proof enough about parking at the Resorts and going to the parks?

From Allearsnet.com
Self parking at the Disney resorts is free to all guests; however some resorts have parking restrictions. The Contemporary, the Polynesian and the Beach Club give guests not staying at those resorts a 3-hour parking pass to allow shopping or dining at these resorts. Parking at any of the resorts to gain access to the theme parks is not allowed. Disney resorts may ask for a photo ID before allowing entry. Some Disney resorts may also ask for an Advance Dining Reservation number from guests who are dining at the resort before allowing access to the resort parking lot.

While they do not say valet parking in there to me that statement includes valet parking along with the regular self parking lot.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Unoffical internet sites don't prove anything. but the parking information you quoted refers to self parking.

Most of us know monorail resort don't give out three hour parking passes when the resort isn't busy. I've never heard of a 3 hour parking pass ever being given to valet customers. Again the question is what, offiical Disney information, is being given to valet customers. Are they told valet parking is time limited? Then there isn't any rule.

What I don't understand is why the sign that is posted BEFORE you get to the gate/booth at CR (and other monorail resorts and BW) isn't enough for most to realize that they shouldn't park at CR all day, no matter where they end up parking (self or valet) their car.

"We do not provide parking for the Magic Kingdom"

Should I say anything else? Because like I just said I have also seen that sign when entering the Contemporary so there is proof right there.

 

[Lewisc]

Should I say anything else? Because like I just said I have also seen that sign when entering the Contemporary so there is proof right there.

I read that sign as prohibiting MK guests from using the Contemporary as an alternative to parking in the main Mk lot (TTC).

Your question is how long are customers of Chef Mickey's allowed to leave their cars at the Contemporary. Those customers chose to park at the Contemporary not for the MK but for CM. Some stores/business validate parking. Those customers are free to also shop in stores that don't validate parking, as long as they only park for as long as permitted.

Disney has decided, during peak periods, to limit self-parking to 3 hours. There is currently no such limit on guests who pay to valet park. Sorry but DISNEY gets to decide how long CM customers can valet park their car.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I read that sign as prohibiting MK guests from using the Contemporary as an alternative to parking in the main Mk lot (TTC).

Your question is how long are customers of Chef Mickey's allowed to leave their cars at the Contemporary. Those customers chose to park at the Contemporary not for the MK but for CM. Some stories/business validate parking. Those customers are free to also shop in stores that don't validate parking, as long as they only park for as long as permitted.

Disney has decided, during peak periods, to limit self-parking to 3 hours. There is currently no such limit on guests who pay to valet park. Sorry but DISNEY gets to decide how long CM customers can valet park their car.

Well I guess we have different views on this situation. My opinion is the sign at the entrance is meant for both self parking and valet parking. So if a guest has valet parked there car once their meal is over and want to visit the Magic Kingdom they need to park at the TTC. I realize you do not agree with my view so I won't try to change your opinion so I will leave it at that.

 

[Lewisc]

The point is if DISNEY, official policy not a few CMs, shared your opinion they'd give guests that valet park the same 3 hour pass they give guests who self-park. It's kind of obvious a CM breakfast guest that doesn't retrieve their car until after Wishes went to the MK after breakfast. It's kind of obvious Disney doesn't share your interperation or they'd give a time limited pass to guests who valet park.

I still wonder how Disney is going to do to handle parking if/when the new tower opens.

Well I guess we have different views on this situation. My opinion is the sign at the entrance is meant for both self parking and valet parking. So if a guest has valet parked there car once their meal is over and want to visit the Magic Kingdom they need to park at the TTC. I realize you do not agree with my view so I won't try to change your opinion so I will leave it at that.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I still wonder how Disney is going to do to handle parking if/when the new tower opens.

My guess is it would the same way when the North Garden Wing buildings were still in use. There would be more parking spaces in that area which would make things a lot better then they are now. As for this parking garage, it's the 1st I heard of it but it sounds like an intresting idea.

 

[Lewisc]

My guess is it would the same way when the North Garden Wing buildings were still in use. There would be more parking spaces in that area which would make things a lot better then they are now. As for this parking garage, it's the 1st I heard of it but it sounds like an intresting idea.

I haven't read anything about a parking garage just speculation. Hotels that build a garage tend to charge extra for guest parking. Shades of Green is a recent example.

We haven't seen any official information regarding the rumored new tower. I suspect there will be more rooms in the tower then were in the garden wing. DVC accomodations are larger than normal hotel rooms but we don't know how many floors of the new tower might be DVC vs hotel rooms.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I haven't read anything about a parking garage just speculation. Hotels that build a garage tend to charge extra for guest parking. Shades of Green is a recent example.

We haven't seen any official information regarding the rumored new tower. I suspect there will be more rooms in the tower then were in the garden wing. DVC accomodations are larger than normal hotel rooms but we don't know how many floors of the new tower might be DVC vs hotel rooms.

Well hopefully the Contemporary would not charge guests for parking if a garage is built because it goes against WDW saying guests who self park do not have to pay expect for guests at the Swan & Dolphin although sine they are not owned by WDW they can do what they want.

As for the DVC building I was told by several Cast Members at the Contemporary on my last 2 trips there it is going to happen and since the North Garden Wing has been demolished that only makes the rumor that much more true. Besides why else would the North Garden Wing buildings have been torn down?

 

[Lewisc]

DVC at the Contemporary is currently nothing more than a (strong) rumor. Many of the rumors suggest the new tower will have hotel rooms and DVC units. Speculation might suggest the Contemporary will at least get enough rooms to replace the rooms that were in the North Garden Wing.

Valet parking used to be free at WDW. There have been several rumors regarding Disney charging for guest parking. Swan, Dolphin and Shades of Green are resorts on site that charge for guest parking. Many off site hotels now charge for guest parking. I wouldn't be shocked if Disney started to charge for guest parking, particularly if they build garages to handle parking needs at some of their resorts.

Well hopefully the Contemporary would not charge guests for parking if a garage is built because it goes against WDW saying guests who self park do not have to pay expect for guests at the Swan & Dolphin although sine they are not owned by WDW they can do what they want.

As for the DVC building I was told by several Cast Members at the Contemporary on my last 2 trips there it is going to happen and since the North Garden Wing has been demolished that only makes the rumor that much more true. Besides why else would the North Garden Wing buildings have been torn down?

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Swan, Dolphin and Shades of Green are resorts on site that charge for guest parking.

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the Swan, Dolphin and Shades of Green can charge guests for self parking because they are not owned by Walt Disney World, even though their Resorts are located on WDW property.

 

[Lewisc]

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the Swan, Dolphin and Shades of Green can charge guests for self parking because they are not owned by Walt Disney World, even though their Resorts are located on WDW property.

Hotels in many parts of the country charge extra for parking. Look at any major city; New York, Chicago etc. Look at many resorts; South Beach.

My point is resorts in the Orlando area, including some resorts on WDW property, are starting to charge for guests parking. There are rumors WDW is considering starting to charge guests for resort parking. WDW can decide to start charging resort guests for parking. They could do that for all resorts or just limit it to certain resorts. I'd expect Disney would start to charge if they wind up building a parking garage.

 

[keishashadow]

Hotels in many parts of the country charge extra for parking. Look at any major city; New York, Chicago etc. Look at many resorts; South Beach.

My point is resorts in the Orlando area, including some resorts on WDW property, are starting to charge for guests parking. There are rumors WDW is considering starting to charge guests for resort parking. WDW can decide to start charging resort guests for parking. They could do that for all resorts or just limit it to certain resorts. I'd expect Disney would start to charge if they wind up building a parking garage.

or they'd add the noxiously vague resort fees that appear on other resort statements increasingly.

btw, i think the new north tower will be a mix of both DVC units and resort accommodations; but not traditional hotel rooms - all suites (as in sleeping 5) with a lockoff option for larger groups. As in the rough layout of the AS family suite was a feasibility test for conversion of 2 standard rooms.