Is There Now Less Magic On The Magic?

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[Disclaimer: DW and I love DCL. We have been on 10 DCL cruises, on both the Magic and the Wonder, most recently the Western on May 3. We have two more DCL cruises booked and believe that the DCL cruise experience is far better than that on other cruise lines on which we sailed. Our first cruise was a four-day (yes, four-day) on the Magic (yes, the Magic) in 1999. DW and I were reflecting upon our decade of cruising DCL and concluded that, although still great, some of the details and magic that made our first DCL cruises are no longer part of the experience. We were just wondering whether other veteran DCL cruisers feel the same way.]

In no particular order, here are some things (some small and some big) that have changed on the Magic (and Wonder) since our first DCL cruise experience back in 1998 that, IMHO, has made the experience a little less "magical..."

1. The absence of the "wow" shrimp cocktail - when DW and I first boarded the Magic in 1999 and headed up to Topsiders, we were "wowed" by the presence of a massive display of huge peeled shrimp cocktail and ice sculptures. Reallly impressive. Sure, there are still peel and eat shrimp on sailaway day, but the scope and presentation of food no longer screams "you are very special and in for the experience of your life."

2. The absence of complimentary champagne on sailaway evening - there was a Captain's Gala in the atrium which was done a little differently than it is today. Nice reception on the first night and a horde of waiters and waitresses with trays of complimentary champagne and appetizers. It's no longer done this way any more - some complimentary drinks and not champagne, not usually on that first evening. Again, a little touch that's lost.

3. No live bands, especially at sailaway - maybe it's just us, but we love live music. Musicians/band playing at the sailaway parties, playing in the adult clubs during the cruise and on theme nights. Obviously, as anyone who has ever planned a wedding knows, live bands cost more than a DJ, but set a better atmosphere and show the guests that no expense is too great for them.

4. The demise of Diversions - before Diversions was Diversions, it was the home of (at first) an ad lib comedy show and (later) dueling pianos. Live entertainment that has again been eliminated in favor of a more mundane bar/flat screen experience. Again, live performers cost money, and consistency with quality can always be an issue, but performers can make the experience. Some of our best times on the Magic were attending the comedy shows (think Comedy Warehouse at PI only on the open seas).

5. Technical and theme absences - there were many more technical and thematic touches on the Magic that no longer exist. From the simple smoke and steam effect that used to waft from the fake manhole covers on Beat Street to the better cared for shuffleboard game on Deck 4 and basketball/floor hockey facilities on the Sports Deck, it seems that these areas are now "afterthoughts" and not the viable entertainment alternatives they once were.

6. Grander shows during dinner - although the entertainment at Animator's is essentially the same, Parrot Cay and Lumiere's (Triton's) used to have grander and more extravagant shows during dinner (they still exist, but, again, not to the level of the Little Mermaid show that used to be part and parcel of the dinner hour).

Okay, okay, I am sure there are more and, in re-reading my list some appear to be a bit overzealous; however, DW and I both agree that the experience on DCL, although superb, is not quite as "wow" as it used to be. Anyone care to weigh in?
 
Wow,

I am going on my first DC in Nov, and reading your post I feel a little depressed. My only thoughts are they have to cut corners, especially in this poor economy to make the cruise affordable.
 
Wow,

I am going on my first DC in Nov, and reading your post I feel a little depressed. My only thoughts are they have to cut corners, especially in this poor economy to make the cruise affordable.

Oh, don't feel depressed at all. DCL is superb and a great cruise experience. Things change, and there have certainly been some "plusses" since 1998. We now have a Pirate party, fireworks, a HUGE jumbotron television, enhanced spa and fitness areas etc.that didn't exist in 1998, just to name a few.

One can afford to be a little critical when one has been on 10 cruises (and is going on two more). You will have a grand time - and my comments were directed more toward seasoned and multi-repeat DCL cruisers, not those planning or experiencing their first DCL cruise.
 
Wow,

I am going on my first DC in Nov, and reading your post I feel a little depressed. My only thoughts are they have to cut corners, especially in this poor economy to make the cruise affordable.

Don't feel depressed!!! We went on our first last September and had an absolute blast. Maybe some things have been cut in the past 10 years, but I'm going to guess that there's PLENTY of magic left on the Magic. None of the things on the list above made me think "oh man!!! we really missed out!!!"
 

Oh, don't feel depressed at all. DCL is superb and a great cruise experience. Things change, and there have certainly been some "plusses" since 1998. We now have a Pirate party, fireworks, a HUGE jumbotron television, enhanced spa and fitness areas etc.that didn't exist in 1998, just to name a few.

One can afford to be a little critical when one has been on 10 cruises (and is going on two more). You will have a grand time - and my comments were directed more toward seasoned and multi-repeat DCL cruisers, not those planning or experiencing their first DCL cruise.

Thanks!!!! I probably should not have responded to your email being that I have never been on a Disney Cruise. I appreciate your kind words, and knowing that the fitness area has been extended. We love to run and work out! :)
 
Isn't the no live band at sailaway just on the Wonder? I thought that there is a band listed on the Magic. ???
 
Isn't the no live band at sailaway just on the Wonder? I thought that there is a band listed on the Magic. ???

There wasn't a live band on the Western on May 3 on the Magic and, as I recall, no live band at the sailaway on the Eastern in April, 2007.
 
[Disclaimer: DW and I love DCL. We have been on 10 DCL cruises, on both the Magic and the Wonder, most recently the Western on May 3. We have two more DCL cruises booked and believe that the DCL cruise experience is far better than that on other cruise lines on which we sailed. Our first cruise was a four-day (yes, four-day) on the Magic (yes, the Magic) in 1999. DW and I were reflecting upon our decade of cruising DCL and concluded that, although still great, some of the details and magic that made our first DCL cruises are no longer part of the experience. We were just wondering whether other veteran DCL cruisers feel the same way.]

In no particular order, here are some things (some small and some big) that have changed on the Magic (and Wonder) since our first DCL cruise experience back in 1998 that, IMHO, has made the experience a little less "magical..."

1. The absence of the "wow" shrimp cocktail - when DW and I first boarded the Magic in 1999 and headed up to Topsiders, we were "wowed" by the presence of a massive display of huge peeled shrimp cocktail and ice sculptures. Reallly impressive. Sure, there are still peel and eat shrimp on sailaway day, but the scope and presentation of food no longer screams "you are very special and in for the experience of your life."

2. The absence of complimentary champagne on sailaway evening - there was a Captain's Gala in the atrium which was done a little differently than it is today. Nice reception on the first night and a horde of waiters and waitresses with trays of complimentary champagne and appetizers. It's no longer done this way any more - some complimentary drinks and not champagne, not usually on that first evening. Again, a little touch that's lost.

3. No live bands, especially at sailaway - maybe it's just us, but we love live music. Musicians/band playing at the sailaway parties, playing in the adult clubs during the cruise and on theme nights. Obviously, as anyone who has ever planned a wedding knows, live bands cost more than a DJ, but set a better atmosphere and show the guests that no expense is too great for them.

4. The demise of Diversions - before Diversions was Diversions, it was the home of (at first) an ad lib comedy show and (later) dueling pianos. Live entertainment that has again been eliminated in favor of a more mundane bar/flat screen experience. Again, live performers cost money, and consistency with quality can always be an issue, but performers can make the experience. Some of our best times on the Magic were attending the comedy shows (think Comedy Warehouse at PI only on the open seas).

5. Technical and theme absences - there were many more technical and thematic touches on the Magic that no longer exist. From the simple smoke and steam effect that used to waft from the fake manhole covers on Beat Street to the better cared for shuffleboard game on Deck 4 and basketball/floor hockey facilities on the Sports Deck, it seems that these areas are now "afterthoughts" and not the viable entertainment alternatives they once were.

6. Grander shows during dinner - although the entertainment at Animator's is essentially the same, Parrot Cay and Lumiere's (Triton's) used to have grander and more extravagant shows during dinner (they still exist, but, again, not to the level of the Little Mermaid show that used to be part and parcel of the dinner hour).

Okay, okay, I am sure there are more and, in re-reading my list some appear to be a bit overzealous; however, DW and I both agree that the experience on DCL, although superb, is not quite as "wow" as it used to be. Anyone care to weigh in?

Wow...you remembered so much!!! I have been sailing with DCL since literally day 1 (were on the Magic Maiden Voyage) and I forgot about some of the things you mention.....and yes, even though I miss some things I do enjoy the evolution of the cruise line and feel they are still very Magical.....will be doing our 17th DCL cruise this October. My heart still skips a beat when I think of getting back onboard...its been 2 years since our last DCL cruise. And, I think it is very magical for first timers since they don't know what was before.

I do wish they would require the variety acts to change their acts up....we have seen Michael Harrison and Rich Purpura do the same acts for years.....but then again we always cruise with new people each time and it is great to see their reactions to the shows!!!!

Thanks for bringing back some memories.....do you remember the paint brushes and "paints" on the pallette plates where you painted your own dessert in Animator's???? That was interesting!!!

MJ
 
Wow...you remembered so much!!! I have been sailing with DCL since literally day 1 (were on the Magic Maiden Voyage) and I forgot about some of the things you mention.....and yes, even though I miss some things I do enjoy the evolution of the cruise line and feel they are still very Magical.....will be doing our 17th DCL cruise this October. My heart still skips a beat when I think of getting back onboard...its been 2 years since our last DCL cruise. And, I think it is very magical for first timers since they don't know what was before.

I do wish they would require the variety acts to change their acts up....we have seen Michael Harrison and Rich Purpura do the same acts for years.....but then again we always cruise with new people each time and it is great to see their reactions to the shows!!!!

Thanks for bringing back some memories.....do you remember the paint brushes and "paints" on the pallette plates where you painted your own dessert in Animator's???? That was interesting!!!

MJ

Yes, MJ, I do remember the pallettes and "paints" at Animator's - a very unique experience indeed.

And I also agree, there isn't anything quite as exciting as a DCL cruise. We are heading on the Wonder for the DVC Members Only in September and simply cannot wait. There is that great feeling one gets when you step off of the gangway and dry land and onto the ship - knowing that you will be experiencing something very special.
 
I do wish they would require the variety acts to change their acts up....we have seen Michael Harrison and Rich Purpura do the same acts for years...

I know!!! Wouldn't you think that they get bored with it too?

It's like taking a Groundhog Day cruise. One of these days that tennis ball is going to meet with an accident...:rolleyes1
 
For a cruise line that could hardly be considered a "moderately priced" cruise line (200-400. or more/day/person i.e. current price for a 3 night cat 8 in October 08-not even holiday time, is 864./pp with tips, comes to 900.= 300./day), I certainly expect some upscale amenities such as nice food presentation and an occasional drink (ie champagne). It's disappointing to hear about them cutting corners. I am getting ready for my 9th or 10th cruise since 2001 but maybe my last as I defect to other lines that are more affordable (but not bottom of the heap either). The enlarged the Spa b/c it is revenue producing & I realize that is important b/c they don't have a casino to make $ but they have gotten enough from me at Bingo:).
 
While I was not on the first cruises, we had a band several times during our cruise on the Magic (November 07) , and apparently did not know how good it was before, I thought it was VERY Magic and going again in about 4 months!!
 
I have been on 14 DCL cruises. I have noticed some cost cutting measures being taken within the last two years. The one that bothers me the most is that there is no longer a steel drum band. It really took away from the atmosphere. I do agree with the OP that DCL still provides a wonderful cruise but a bit of the Magic has been missing. That being said, I am still afraid to try another cruise line. I love DCL and I cannot imagine going on a different line and not stopping at CC. For me CC is paradise!:goodvibes
 
Speaking of Michael Harrison Did you see him last night on Americas got talent? He made it to the semi finals
 
They replaced those amazing shrimp with peel and eat? Eeeewwww. I expect peel and east at the Mandarin not a cruise. Good thing ther are so many other choices but that is a little disapointing.
 
They replaced those amazing shrimp with peel and eat? Eeeewwww. I expect peel and east at the Mandarin not a cruise. Good thing ther are so many other choices but that is a little disapointing.

I agree about the shrimp, as much as I love shrimp the peel and eat they can keep. :lmao:
 
Totally agree with the shrimp. And those crab claws they used to have were great too! I used to look forward to the buffet the minute we got onboard. Now it doesn't phase me much. The food there this past cruise (Sept 2007) was just average. I guess it gives me plenty of time to hit the entertainment area and guest service for any reservations we still need.

But I do enjoy Diversions. We have played some really fun games there during the day. It is a great play to hang out and have a beer. And watching Monday night football with a huge group of people was a blast.

Although over the past 6 years since we have been cruising there have been some changes I do not care for, there have also been some things added or changed that I like. The Cove Cafe, spa villas, Diversions, the Dumbotron, etc.
 
I wonder if the cuts in service/amenities has anything to do w/ cost cutting measures related to the two new ships being built?

You know... save a little here ---- splurge a little there.
 
I need have something clarified. Am I reading that there is no live music onboard at all? Not just at sail away, which is bad enough, but no live music at all. Not at the pool during sea days or in the bars at night. How can that be?
 
I need have something clarified. Am I reading that there is no live music onboard at all? Not just at sail away, which is bad enough, but no live music at all. Not at the pool during sea days or in the bars at night. How can that be?

Can't speak for every cruise on the Magic and Wonder, Bill, but on the Western May 3 of 2008 and the Eastern April 29 of 2007 (the last two Magic cruises I have been on) the only live music I recall was the male/female singer-guitar player that would alternate between small shows at the Promenade Lounge and the Quiet Cove pool and the pianist at Sessions. No live band at the sailaway or other deck parties.

Shows in the clubs on Beat Street also did not have a live band - they were DJ only.
 

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