Is it true the ship is blue and not black?

[jeanigor]

I still want an explanation on what regulations prohibit the hull from being black!

I've been googling maritime laws and regulations about hull color, and cannot find any information to corroborate/clarify this issue.

 

[Tigfanjeff]

 

[dursin]

I've been googling maritime laws and regulations about hull color, and cannot find any information to corroborate/clarify this issue.

I couldn't find anything in regards to regulation of the hull color of a ship, nor could I find anything that dictates what color the lifeboats have to be. Like I said, Disney likes to tell a good story and they don't necessarily have to be true...some apparently originate in Fantasyland.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Ok, 4 pages of black vs. blue, and no answer to this question. Or am I the only person that doesn't know why a ship isn't allowed to be black?

BTW, I haven't even seen the thing yet in person and on any photo I have ever seen it looks blue to me...

Hi there,

The hull of a vessel can be painted any color, including black, blue or black and blue.....This maybe restricted only if there is a special employment of the ship that would reqiure a special color.

The life boats and life saving eqiupment were/are painted international orange, as it was thought to be the most easy to spot as sea (rescue). Disney did tests and proved to the various international orginazations, including the vessel p and I clubs and USCG that mickey yellow was just a visible, thats why the DCL vessels lifeboatsd are yellow!

The DCL vessels have Mickey red boot top (waterlines) and the bottoms of all ship are pianted whatever is best for the antifouling (growth on the hulls)
qualities of the paint/apoxy. Most today are a dark metalic black/grey!


I know, becuase of 10 years at sea as a ships officer and 25 additional years in the Maritime industry!

Have a great cruise!!!

AKK

 

[jeanigor]

Hi there,

The hull of a vessel can be painted any color, including black, blue or black and blue.....This maybe restricted only if there is a special employment of the ship that would reqiure a special color.

The life boats and life saving eqiupment were/are painted international orange, as it was thought to be the most easy to spot as sea (rescue). Disney did tests and proved to the various international orginazations, including the vessel p and I clubs and USCG that mickey yellow was just a visible, thats why the DCL vessels lifeboatsd are yellow!

The DCL vessels have Mickey red boot top (waterlines) and the bottoms of all ship are pianted whatever is best for the antifouling (growth on the hulls)
qualities of the paint/apoxy. Most today are a dark metalic black/grey!


I know, becuase of 10 years at sea as a ships officer and 25 additional years in the Maritime industry!

Have a great cruise!!!

AKK

Thank you for your insight. I was hoping there would be someone knowledgeable in Maritime regulations that read the boards.
So it could be more appropriate to say that if the hull was not 100% black that it was a Disney protocol/standard that they were looking to follow with the off-black color.
(Personally, I think it looks like peacock black--ranging from slate to indigo, depending upon light, weather and water reflectivity.)

 

[Dallas_Lady]

Is black the color of the disney boat? No it's not. Black is not a color.

Black is the absense of color. I'm not the only one that took physics, you might remember this too.

To make a pigment appear black you take away all the light colored pigment. You are usually left with a very dark green or blue.

If i was going to bet money the paint is a dark blue in this case.

Physics teacher here. This is absolutely correct. It is impossible to make black paint- even if you go to The Home Depot and order a can of black paint it's not really black, it's going to be a mix of other colors. Since black is the absense of color, you can't actually make truly black paint. To our eyes it may look black, but black paint is just really dark blue and brown mixed together.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Thank you for your insight. I was hoping there would be someone knowledgeable in Maritime regulations that read the boards.
So it could be more appropriate to say that if the hull was not 100% black that it was a Disney protocol/standard that they were looking to follow with the off-black color.
(Personally, I think it looks like peacock black--ranging from slate to indigo, depending upon light, weather and water reflectivity.)

NO PROBLEM, The hull was listed aS 15% dark blue and 85% black.......someone here said 13% and 87%....that maybe correct, I don't know.......the point of the blue and black is to give the hull that off black, *peacock* as you said look. It also keeps the hull shine and hides any rust look.

AKK

 

[dursin]

Physics teacher here. This is absolutely correct. It is impossible to make black paint- even if you go to The Home Depot and order a can of black paint it's not really black, it's going to be a mix of other colors. Since black is the absense of color, you can't actually make truly black paint. To our eyes it may look black, but black paint is just really dark blue and brown mixed together.

Black is only the absence of color when you are talking about additive colors (as in light). With that, you start with red, green and blue. Combining the 3 gives white. The absence of any is black.

With paint, you are dealing with subtractive colors which is sort of the opposite. No colors at all give white and all colors will, or at least should give black. In practice, it's pretty hard to get black from actually combining all the colors which is why black pigments are used. That's why many printers use the CMYK (cyan/magenta/yellow/BLACK) color model. When you're low on black ink, most will offer to 'create' black by combining the other colors, but it's never quite as good as real black.

 

[skiingfast]

Black is only the absence of color when you are talking about additive colors (as in light). With that, you start with red, green and blue. Combining the 3 gives white. The absence of any is black.

With paint, you are dealing with subtractive colors which is sort of the opposite. No colors at all give white and all colors will, or at least should give black. In practice, it's pretty hard to get black from actually combining all the colors which is why black pigments are used. That's why many printers use the CMYK (cyan/magenta/yellow/BLACK) color model. When you're low on black ink, most will offer to 'create' black by combining the other colors, but it's never quite as good as real black.

Really? Are you sure?

 

[shasess]

its dark blue for every1 else black for dursin can we agree on this?

 

[love2disney]

So.... is it blue or black?

 

[jilljill]

So.... is it blue or black?

Yes....it's a mixture of blue and black. That's been stated in a few posts as quoted from the designer.

 

[Caropooh]

Yes....it's a mixture of blue and black. That's been stated in a few posts as quoted from the designer.

sort of like a bruise as a friend of ours put it!

 

[jenseib]

Anyway...an official Disney website states that it is black. My eyes tell me that it's black. Until proven otherwise, the hull of the ship is black.

And we all know how accurate the Disney site is!

 

[stitchlovestink]

And we all know how accurate the Disney site is!

ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jilljill]

sort of like a bruise as a friend of ours put it!

Yup...just depends how bad the bruise is and what day you look at it.

 

[justmestace]

sort of like a bruise as a friend of ours put it!

So then the color REALLY is black and blue....not blue and black.


I'm having fun with this now.

 

[DW2010]

This thread has been so entertaining . So, lets say that it's 87% black and 13% blue. Why would anyone call it blue when blue only makes up 13% of the paint? I would think that you'd call it black since that's what makes up 87% of it.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

When its all said and done.....does it matter?

 

[KingRichard]

Would someone please get a paint sample from the hull and get in looked at.

Get your scraper and head over to Lowes or Home depot and they will do it for free!