Is it Juan-uary yet? Bachelor Juan Pablo dish - NO SPOILERS please!!!

[Imzadi]

Really... what six year old would want to watch it. If she was curious, he could show her parts of it - like the travel.

I think it has more to do with other kids or mean adults saying something nasty to the 6 yr old. For example, Philip Seymour Hoffman's kids now have to be shielded from people saying what a drug addict he was, considering about 30 baggies of heroin & 5 other drugs were found in his apartment.

Princes William & Harry were shielded from all the stuff in the media while they were younger and away at boarding school.

Listen to Jason and Molly's podcast. No spoilers about the current season, but definitely a lot of "back story" information about how the show works. The "Rose Ceremonies" take HOURS and HOURS....and often end at dawn.

Dates are the same, especially the group ones...where they do retakes of scenes sometimes. And producers are telling the women what they should do....like I'm sure they said to Claire...."you really don't want the night to end do you? I'm sure Juan doesn't either....why don't you do to his room." There is NO way that happened without producer encouragement and approval.

Also, when you are NOT on a date, you are absolutely REQUIRED to remain in the hotel. You have handlers...and are not permitted out, unless for some reason, the producers want you to track down the "star" and confront him/her (as has happened in prior seasons). And, this requirement that you stay in, and isolated is all part of the strategy of getting the contestants to "think" they are "in love" with the "star" after only a few "dates." ALL you do is sit around and think about how "great" the guy is....with the active encouragement of the producers of the show. The person assumes a greater significance than they really have.

Many past contestants have said (once they are allowed home) that they don't even LIKE the lead once they get beyond the confines of the bubble. It's a form of brainwashing, really. Isolation. Constant focus on your "captor", etc. It is psychologically quite interesting. Here is but one article analyzing the show from this point of view. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...three-disturbing-new-developments-abcs-the-ba

I watch this show PURELY for the train wreck effect. It is sheer luck that makes any of these couples last, and explains why the VAST majority of them never make it past a few weeks when the show ends on TV.

Wow! That's like how the Scientologists allegedly operate!

Thanks.






(I'll PayPal you the payment later for saying that. )





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[GagesMama]

I'm a lurker on this thread, but just had to add...remember the last line of Clare's toast - to making love. That certainly sounds like she was insinuating that they had, and another reason for the awkwardness from the other women. They put two & two together & figured it out. JP didn't confront her until after her toast, when she spilled the beans, if I'm remembering correctly.

I'm mostly a lurker, too.

I was suspicious last night of the whole exchange between JP and Clare before the rose ceremony. I felt like things were fine until Clare made that obnoxious toast. I didn't think JP would have "lectured" her at all about the previous night had she not outed them in front of the whole group, wanting to brag about her conquest.

In my opinion, he and Clare belong together. The others have too much class for him.

 

[robinb]

I agree, look at those arms!!

He has such a baby face!

He was a Wisconsin Badger

 

[lisaviolet]

I'm mostly a lurker, too.

I was suspicious last night of the whole exchange between JP and Clare before the rose ceremony. I felt like things were fine until Clare made that obnoxious toast. I didn't think JP would have "lectured" her at all about the previous night had she not outed them in front of the whole group, wanting to brag about her conquest.

In my opinion, he and Clare belong together. The others have too much class for him.

Hi GagesMama. Got our question answered.

(Hi Shel )

That was obnoxious, I don't know if Clare was being catty or it came to her head and she simply couldn't stop it rolling off. Maybe I'm naive or stupid, cause I'm not sure.

I forgot that the lecture was after her toast. Makes more sense how it played out now.

 

[Dancind]

OK, you guys have convinced me. Occurs to me that Clare thought that would work since it sure did for Courtney. Eesh. Who wants that on TV?

I've watched all of the Bachelorettes and several Bachelor series. The only Bachelor I've liked so far is Sean. It was cute that Catherine had a big ol' crush on him from Emily's season.

Thought it was probably some kind of group psychology thing that made the ladies think they were in love with the Bachelor, but that Podcast explains a LOT. And no wonder some of the girls have gotten so close that they cry at the rose ceremony even when they don't go home.

The girls that left last night didn't seem terribly upset though. Kind of "oh well".

 

[lisaviolet]

OK, you guys have convinced me. Occurs to me that Clare thought that would work since it sure did for Courtney. Eesh. Who wants that on TV?

I've watched all of the Bachelorettes and several Bachelor series. The only Bachelor I've liked so far is Sean. It was cute that Catherine had a big ol' crush on him from Emily's season.

Thought it was probably some kind of group psychology thing that made the ladies think they were in love with the Bachelor, but that Podcast explains a LOT. And no wonder some of the girls have gotten so close that they cry at the rose ceremony even when they don't go home.

The girls that left last night didn't seem terribly upset though. Kind of "oh well".

Was just going to come on and comment on Sharleen's reaction. I'm guessing she was close to Kelly.

The podcast does explain a lot.

 

[Imzadi]

OK, you guys have convinced me. Occurs to me that Clare thought that would work since it sure did for Courtney. Eesh. Who wants that on TV?

Yeah, in her private interviews to the camera, she seemed to be about winning Juan Pablo. I think she also thought if she went farther than the other girls, it would work. Then when it didn't work and she turned out to be a cheap one night stand that Juan Pablo regretted, she got all upset. . . Of course the way he said it, didn't help.

And like the PP, I do think he seems kind of controlling &/or manipulative. Telling the girls not to worry about things. Telling Clare not to cry. But, that could also be because he's got such a microscope on him, with the cameras. And there are certain things he's not allowed to say to them. So, maybe he's just trying to control a situation that he certainly is not in control of.

And it makes sense now why the girls would do all those death-defying stunts, even when they clearly don't want to. Juan Pablo has been saying the don't have to. But, if the handlers have been telling the girls before hand that if the don't they will lose his love and be sent home - no matter what HE says to them, and they've all been brainwashed to "drink the Kool-Aid" while in that isolated environment, then yes, I can see now why they do it.

The girls that left last night didn't seem terribly upset though. Kind of "oh well".

Maybe, because Danielle is a psychiatric nurse, she was able to keep a clear head, and talk to some of the girls too, into keeping sane, when the handlers aren't about. I can imagine that they'd go to the one gal who understands what Coo-coo is about and say, "Hey, are what these people are saying to us coo-coo? Or am I really going crazy?"

 

[Robinrs]

This is OT Robin, but I Russ Wilson!!

I agree, look at those arms!!

He was a Wisconsin Badger

Ladies, the only reason I watched my very first Superbowl this year....

 

[GagesMama]

Hi GagesMama. Got our question answered.

I saw that. Thank you so much. This thread started really moving quickly and I forgot to thank you earlier.

I accidentally read a spoiler. BOOOO! Someone posted it in comment section of an Us Weekly Facebook post about a previous episode. I was so ticked!

 

[robinb]

I saw that. Thank you so much. This thread started really moving quickly and I forgot to thank you earlier. I accidentally read a spoiler. BOOOO! Someone posted it in comment section of an Us Weekly Facebook post about a previous episode. I was so ticked!

Bummer on the spoiler. I've been spoiled more than once.

 

[Imzadi]

I saw that. Thank you so much. This thread started really moving quickly and I forgot to thank you earlier.

I accidentally read a spoiler. BOOOO! Someone posted it in comment section of an Us Weekly Facebook post about a previous episode. I was so ticked!

Yeah, that's what I meant about being careful about spoilers anywhere on the page, not just the one thing you are reading. Several seasons ago, someone linked to a non-spoiler article, and unfortunately she accidentally read a spoiler in the right column of the page, but she was able to warn all of us about it afterward. So, if we went to read the article, we knew to keep our eyes glued to the left side of the web page.

You really can't even Google about this show as there are spoilers in some titles of the Searches.

 

[pigletgirl]

]age.
You really can't even Google about this show as there are spoilers in some titles of the Searches.

I know. I'm pretending I didn't read anything and I'm hoping I'll forget.

 

[GagesMama]

I can't forget. It was pretty... memorable. haha I'm just hoping the person is wrong or messing with everyone.

 

[Robinrs]

I can't forget. It was pretty... memorable. haha I'm just hoping the person is wrong or messing with everyone.

I've known for awhile and this year don't really care. In fact it prepares me for it!

 

[kimmar067]

Yeah, in her private interviews to the camera, she seemed to be about winning Juan Pablo. I think she also thought if she went farther than the other girls, it would work. Then when it didn't work and she turned out to be a cheap one night stand that Juan Pablo regretted, she got all upset. . . Of course the way he said it, didn't help.

And like the PP, I do think he seems kind of controlling &/or manipulative. Telling the girls not to worry about things. Telling Clare not to cry. But, that could also be because he's got such a microscope on him, with the cameras. And there are certain things he's not allowed to say to them. So, maybe he's just trying to control a situation that he certainly is not in control of.

And it makes sense now why the girls would do all those death-defying stunts, even when they clearly don't want to. Juan Pablo has been saying the don't have to. But, if the handlers have been telling the girls before hand that if the don't they will lose his love and be sent home - no matter what HE says to them, and they've all been brainwashed to "drink the Kool-Aid" while in that isolated environment, then yes, I can see now why they do it.




Maybe, because Danielle is a psychiatric nurse, she was able to keep a clear head, and talk to some of the girls too, into keeping sane, when the handlers aren't about. I can imagine that they'd go to the one gal who understands what Coo-coo is about and say, "Hey, are what these people are saying to us coo-coo? Or am I really going crazy?"

....I.....HATE...Kool-Aid.

 

[kimmar067]

I've known for awhile and this year don't really care. In fact it prepares me for it!

....off-topic, but yer jes' checkin' out Wilson's GUNS....you cougar, you....

 

[kimmar067]

Yeah, that's what I meant about being careful about spoilers anywhere on the page, not just the one thing you are reading. Several seasons ago, someone linked to a non-spoiler article, and unfortunately she accidentally read a spoiler in the right column of the page, but she was able to warn all of us about it afterward. So, if we went to read the article, we knew to keep our eyes glued to the left side of the web page.

You really can't even Google about this show as there are spoilers in some titles of the Searches.

I know. I'm pretending I didn't read anything and I'm hoping I'll forget.

...thanks for the heads-up...

 

[iheartdisney]

....I.....HATE...Kool-Aid.

Technically, it was Flavor Aid, not Kool-Aid. The poor folks at Kool-Aid have been trying for years to correct that fact!

 

[Robinrs]

....off-topic, but yer jes' checkin' out Wilson's GUNS....you cougar, you....

Hey!! I resemble that remark...

 

[kimmar067]

....his eyebrows ain't bad either...