Is it Juan-uary yet? Bachelor Juan Pablo dish - NO SPOILERS please!!!

I think she said something like, "We did it all" at the end of the swim. I'm pretty sure that's what it's about. He's feeling more connected to Renee and wishing he hasn't done it with Clare. I think he's using his daughter as a scapegoat - he certainly doesn't mind making out with everyone all day - and it won't look any different to a six year old anyway. AND who let's their 6 year old watch something like this anyway.:confused3

I'm having a hard time with him - I think he manipulates the girls and he never seems to know what to say.. although I guess I could give him a pass for the language barrier.

Really... what six year old would want to watch it. If she was curious, he could show her parts of it - like the travel.

It seems like none of them know what to say. They are coversationally challenged. Considering they all can't wait to "date" him, they never bring anything interesting to talk about?. Ok... except our Renee :bride:, but that's all about kids - and I'm not sure anyone wants that to be the main topic of conversation on your date?

Don't forget ... I'm new to this Bachelor show stuff, so maybe it's always like this. ;)
 
Juan is a little less attractive to me now. He seems to leer at his dates. And that Clair thing. Not a fan of hers, but I think she got offended and that will be the end of her down the road. I don't think she will let it go.
I think he is treating Renee most like wife material.
And now that someone mentioned the face holding kissing move I crack up every time he does it!
 
I've always wondered about how it all works, behind the scenes.

Listen to Jason and Molly's podcast. No spoilers about the current season, but definitely a lot of "back story" information about how the show works. The "Rose Ceremonies" take HOURS and HOURS....and often end at dawn. :crazy2:

Dates are the same, especially the group ones...where they do retakes of scenes sometimes. And producers are telling the women what they should do....like I'm sure they said to Claire...."you really don't want the night to end do you? I'm sure Juan doesn't either....why don't you do to his room." There is NO way that happened without producer encouragement and approval.

Also, when you are NOT on a date, you are absolutely REQUIRED to remain in the hotel. You have handlers...and are not permitted out, unless for some reason, the producers want you to track down the "star" and confront him/her (as has happened in prior seasons). And, this requirement that you stay in, and isolated is all part of the strategy of getting the contestants to "think" they are "in love" with the "star" after only a few "dates." ALL you do is sit around and think about how "great" the guy is....with the active encouragement of the producers of the show. The person assumes a greater significance than they really have.

Many past contestants have said (once they are allowed home) that they don't even LIKE the lead once they get beyond the confines of the bubble. It's a form of brainwashing, really. Isolation. Constant focus on your "captor", etc. It is psychologically quite interesting. Here is but one article analyzing the show from this point of view. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...three-disturbing-new-developments-abcs-the-ba

I watch this show PURELY for the train wreck effect. It is sheer luck that makes any of these couples last, and explains why the VAST majority of them never make it past a few weeks when the show ends on TV.
 
This isn't a spoiler, because I don't like finding out what's coming up anymore than anyone else here, but...

I'll make a prediction.

Renee will be the next bachelorette.
No way JP picks her. Little JP will pick for him.
 

I never thought JP was all that even from the beginning. I don't think his accent is sexy at all, he sounds like an idiot. Whenever he has "conversations" with the women, he gives these little noises, like "ohhh ya." Lol it's hard to convey what I mean by typing it out but it's pretty annoying. He just seems like a ditz. I think he was a terrible choice as a bachelor.
 
I'm not liking JP. I'm hearing a bit on a control freak in him. "Look at me", "look at me", stop crying. I just don't like his tone. Anyone else?
 
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That's what I thought and heard. :confused3 I could have sworn he said he went too far with Clare and he regretted it. It wasn't fair to the other girls, that they did the horizontal mambo while he hadn't even remotely gone that far with other girls.

And Clare was crying because they did, and he was regretting it. She gave herself away like a ho. She said many times that he should have said NO if he didn't want to go that far. I don't think that's in reference to heavy petting & kissing. (But then again, I was listening as though they had done it. You know how that sometimes colors what you hear, and you hear what you expect. :upsidedow )

Also, him responding when she asked him, why didn't he just say no, and he said he didn't want to hurt her, and he was also caught up in all the emotion, that's stupid. :mad: He was thinking with his pecker. Period. He didn't want to stop. Don't use the excuse he didn't want to hurt her. :sad2:


:worship:
 
Listen to Jason and Molly's podcast. No spoilers about the current season, but definitely a lot of "back story" information about how the show works. The "Rose Ceremonies" take HOURS and HOURS....and often end at dawn. :crazy2:

Dates are the same, especially the group ones...where they do retakes of scenes sometimes. And producers are telling the women what they should do....like I'm sure they said to Claire...."you really don't want the night to end do you? I'm sure Juan doesn't either....why don't you do to his room." There is NO way that happened without producer encouragement and approval.

Also, when you are NOT on a date, you are absolutely REQUIRED to remain in the hotel. You have handlers...and are not permitted out, unless for some reason, the producers want you to track down the "star" and confront him/her (as has happened in prior seasons). And, this requirement that you stay in, and isolated is all part of the strategy of getting the contestants to "think" they are "in love" with the "star" after only a few "dates." ALL you do is sit around and think about how "great" the guy is....with the active encouragement of the producers of the show. The person assumes a greater significance than they really have.

Many past contestants have said (once they are allowed home) that they don't even LIKE the lead once they get beyond the confines of the bubble. It's a form of brainwashing, really. Isolation. Constant focus on your "captor", etc. It is psychologically quite interesting. Here is but one article analyzing the show from this point of view. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...three-disturbing-new-developments-abcs-the-ba

I watch this show PURELY for the train wreck effect. It is sheer luck that makes any of these couples last, and explains why the VAST majority of them never make it past a few weeks when the show ends on TV.

....wow...no wonder the 'contestants' (or should I say 'combatants'? ;) ) say that it's so different being ON the show than watching on tv...
 
I'm a lurker on this thread, but just had to add...remember the last line of Clare's toast - to making love. That certainly sounds like she was insinuating that they had, and another reason for the awkwardness from the other women. They put two & two together & figured it out. JP didn't confront her until after her toast, when she spilled the beans, if I'm remembering correctly.
 
Was anyone else impressed by the math skills last night? One of the girls, I think it might have been the lawyer said something like three of us are going home.. .that's almost half. Great powers of deduction! :lmao:

I guess since Juan Pablo wants to be fair, he has to go bone 7 other women? I mean, he is all about being fair.
 
Was anyone else impressed by the math skills last night? One of the girls, I think it might have been the lawyer said something like three of us are going home.. .that's almost half. Great powers of deduction! :lmao:

Yes! Wasn't that amazing??? And she didn't even use a calculator!

I guess since Juan Pablo wants to be fair, he has to go bone 7 other women? I mean, he is all about being fair.

:eek:

:rotfl2::rotfl::rotfl2::rotfl:
 
She's negative and catty. I wouldn't want her around my kid for long periods of time. :crazy2:

I think that was a character the producers gave her. It doesn't seem natural.

Listen to Jason and Molly's podcast. No spoilers about the current season, but definitely a lot of "back story" information about how the show works. The "Rose Ceremonies" take HOURS and HOURS....and often end at dawn. :crazy2:

Dates are the same, especially the group ones...where they do retakes of scenes sometimes. And producers are telling the women what they should do....like I'm sure they said to Claire...."you really don't want the night to end do you? I'm sure Juan doesn't either....why don't you do to his room." There is NO way that happened without producer encouragement and approval.

Also, when you are NOT on a date, you are absolutely REQUIRED to remain in the hotel. You have handlers...and are not permitted out, unless for some reason, the producers want you to track down the "star" and confront him/her (as has happened in prior seasons). And, this requirement that you stay in, and isolated is all part of the strategy of getting the contestants to "think" they are "in love" with the "star" after only a few "dates." ALL you do is sit around and think about how "great" the guy is....with the active encouragement of the producers of the show. The person assumes a greater significance than they really have.

Many past contestants have said (once they are allowed home) that they don't even LIKE the lead once they get beyond the confines of the bubble. It's a form of brainwashing, really. Isolation. Constant focus on your "captor", etc. It is psychologically quite interesting. Here is but one article analyzing the show from this point of view. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...three-disturbing-new-developments-abcs-the-ba

I watch this show PURELY for the train wreck effect. It is sheer luck that makes any of these couples last, and explains why the VAST majority of them never make it past a few weeks when the show ends on TV.

I remember when I was in an all girl's choir. A guy would walk in for a minute and the girls would go WILD. :scared1: They'd compete with each other for his attention and whoever got it WON.

It's more about the competition than the guy.

This year's guy has turned me COMPLETELY off.

He tells the girl last week he can't kiss her because of his daughter :confused:

He kisses just about everyone else with ZEST :confused:

He makes out (I'm sure they made love) with Clare and now he's WORRIED she might see it and puts all the guilt on the woman????? :confused:

I never wanted the girl I dislike the most to get the jerk MORE! :thumbsup2
 
Renee is WAY too good for him... and I think he likes her for who she is as a friend, like anyone would. He's too South Beach to want a normal girl like that, he likes flash and she's not flashy.
 
Listen to Jason and Molly's podcast. No spoilers about the current season, but definitely a lot of "back story" information about how the show works. The "Rose Ceremonies" take HOURS and HOURS....and often end at dawn. :crazy2:

Dates are the same, especially the group ones...where they do retakes of scenes sometimes. And producers are telling the women what they should do....like I'm sure they said to Claire...."you really don't want the night to end do you? I'm sure Juan doesn't either....why don't you do to his room." There is NO way that happened without producer encouragement and approval.

Also, when you are NOT on a date, you are absolutely REQUIRED to remain in the hotel. You have handlers...and are not permitted out, unless for some reason, the producers want you to track down the "star" and confront him/her (as has happened in prior seasons). And, this requirement that you stay in, and isolated is all part of the strategy of getting the contestants to "think" they are "in love" with the "star" after only a few "dates." ALL you do is sit around and think about how "great" the guy is....with the active encouragement of the producers of the show. The person assumes a greater significance than they really have.

Many past contestants have said (once they are allowed home) that they don't even LIKE the lead once they get beyond the confines of the bubble. It's a form of brainwashing, really. Isolation. Constant focus on your "captor", etc. It is psychologically quite interesting. Here is but one article analyzing the show from this point of view. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...three-disturbing-new-developments-abcs-the-ba

I watch this show PURELY for the train wreck effect. It is sheer luck that makes any of these couples last, and explains why the VAST majority of them never make it past a few weeks when the show ends on TV.

Interesting, thank you. This is what I meant/wondered about internet chatter, the stuff after the fact - not during.

The staying in the hotel, with all these locations, I would go batty.

Oh and Vietnam is gorgeous. I think I missed so much dialogue staring at the scenery - well and the fact that it's hard to listen to Juan Pablo for too long and not zone out.

Was anyone else impressed by the math skills last night? One of the girls, I think it might have been the lawyer said something like three of us are going home.. .that's almost half. Great powers of deduction! :lmao:

I guess since Juan Pablo wants to be fair, he has to go bone 7 other women? I mean, he is all about being fair.

:rotfl2::lmao::rotfl2: OMG, perfect. :thumbsup2

Renee is WAY too good for him... and I think he likes her for who she is as a friend, like anyone would. He's too South Beach to want a normal girl like that, he likes flash and she's not flashy.

Yes, on all. :thumbsup2

You know I missed so much last night. I guess you do have to pay somewhat attention to the screen. Insert wink. I had it on and I had no clue Clare went to his place in the middle of the night or that they even went in the ocean. :rotfl: :confused3. Who knows, but I guess I can't do two things at once.

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Honestly, each time a girl leaves I feel like cheering for them. As in yeah, you've escaped. :thumbsup2 Run!

He's so vapid.

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I feel sorry for whoever gets to the end.

Has there been another season where you guys felt that? Probably, eh?
 
Renee is WAY too good for him... and I think he likes her for who she is as a friend, like anyone would. He's too South Beach to want a normal girl like that, he likes flash and she's not flashy.
She really is. I think the same is true for Danielle and the opera singer (her name escapes me at the moment).

Will Renee want to be the next bachelorette?
 
This is OT Robin, but I :lovestruc Russ Wilson!!
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