In your opinion...what does "No Overnight Parking" mean?

You pay to park your car in a garage or you get towed or ticketed. Ask any one who goes to Brown Univ or Johnson and Wales. You take you changes and it could not be there.

I worked in a law office and there was a tow truck company on call for anyone who parked in the parking lot without a parking permit. LIke your son found out, empty lots are not a good place to park. I am sure someone called the tow service when they saw his car there.

Parking in Providence is a money making business for the lot owners and the police, and tow services.

Where in Providence was he. the East side?
 
Is there any other dollar?? :teeth:

Let's see...what would a poll be? (Choose as many answers as you'd like.)

1) Was the "No Overnight Parking" sign clear?
2) Does it MATTER that it wasn't clear?
3) Should my DS's car had gotten towed?
4) Is my DS lazy and stupid?
5) Should DS repeat his senior year in HS since he's obviously learned NOTHING?
6) Should I take away his keys/car/bed/food/oxygen until he learns where to park a car?
7) Should DS fight the parking lot owner, the tow truck operator, the police, his friends who told him to park there, and us for being negligent parents who didn't teach him the rules of car parking?
8) Should DS's passport be designated "Refuse entry to Germany...cannot make car parking decisions"?

:rotfl2:
 
Was the lot CLOSED? At the moment the owner closes the lot, then the owner has a right to consider the car as being left overnight. It is AFTER the end of his business day. (He should have had his business hours posted.) He doesn't have to sit there all night to decide the car is going to be there overnight.

As far as if the car being left on the street, in all the towns & cities I've lived in, if you leave a car there during the specific time of the town's ordinances for "overnight," the cops can ticket the car. It doesn't matter if it is there for two minutes, two hours or 6 hours. No Parking is NO Parking. If the engine is turned off and there is no one sitting in the car, the car is parked. This is not open for interpretation. This is in the DMV manual. Length of time doesn't matter. The car is there at the wrong time. Period. The police do NOT have to come back hours later to see, "Yes, the car has been here overnight." Some people are trying to rationalize the ridiculous. That's like a cop seeing someone pull out a knife on someone and having to WAIT to see if the person actually stabs into someone before saying it's an actual assault or an attempted murder. :rolleyes:

But the point is nowhere on the sign does it say what those hours are. So how is anyone supposed to know what time they consider "overnight"?

No Parking may not be open for interpretation but what time they mean is when they don't post the hours.

The only time I have ever seen No Overnight Parking signs they referred to RV's and commercial vehicles and they mean overnight as in sleeping in your vehicle, not parking a couple of minutes after midnight.

Police/tow companies do that all of the time in places that have a limit on how long you can park. So I don't think it's a ridiculous thought.
 
Well...overnight is overnight...and midnight is just saying that it is the middle of the night so what would you expect?!

The poor kid...but still that is a lesson...he should simply not take the chance when he has doubts...and there was no doubt that it was midnight....
 

Well, there you go. You're part of the problem :lmao: There's no crime here. He made an error in judgment, followed by handling the problem in a very mature manner. He took full responsibility for getting the car back and he told you what happened. You're doing an excellent job of raising a kid who's not going to commit a crime and who, if he has a problem or needs advice, is comfortable talking to you :thumbsup2

About that $5... I have no vacation budget this year. Is there any chance you'd be going to see Toby Keith in Mansfield in September?
Thank you! He is a most excellent child! Except when he's not. :blush: No, he's a good boy. :love:

Wow, Mansfield! I used to work for the school department there...many many MANY years ago. :) I don't know exactly who Toby Keith is :blush: so I don't think I'll be there. How about Pawsox? That's more our speed. LOL
The thread has a name...I'll call it "Joan." :)
:lmao::rotfl2: Bren!! LMAO This thread is dead to me!!! :rotfl:

BTW, DS had a senior class overnight last night. All the parents wandered around aimlessly asking "What does that MEAN? When does it END? Someone call Germany!" ;)

(J/K folks! :teeth: Little sleep last night...I'm punchy. :))
 
Thank you! He is a most excellent child! Except when he's not. :blush: No, he's a good boy. :love:

Wow, Mansfield! I used to work for the school department there...many many MANY years ago. :) I don't know exactly who Toby Keith is :blush: so I don't think I'll be there. How about Pawsox? That's more our speed. LOL:lmao::rotfl2: Bren!! LMAO This thread is dead to me!!! :rotfl:

BTW, DS had a senior class overnight last night. All the parents wandered around aimlessly asking "What does that MEAN? When does it END? Someone call Germany!" ;)

(J/K folks! :teeth: Little sleep last night...I'm punchy. :))

:lmao:

...and the party sounded FUN!!:banana:
 
:confused3

How is that a rude response?? here in Germany, every one knows that the laws pertains to the hours of 10pm-6am, it is one of the questions on the extensive driver's testing. Every one knows this it is common knowledge, so once again, I am baffled by the responses. It is always someone else's fault, that is why I do not live or work in the states, the attitude and sense of entitlement would drive me crazy!! I parked my car in a no parking spot yet I don't understand what I did wrong??? hello, can you follow simple instruction??

Hmmm....
..............you live in Germany.....
......you just follow instructions without questions....
........You believe in harsh punishment.......

Now where have I heard all this before?!?!?
 
Hmmm....
..............you live in Germany.....
......you just follow instructions without questions....
........You believe in harsh punishment.......

Now where have I heard all this before?!?!?

If they go around one night breaking the windows of the cars that are illegally parked or making their owners wear some sort of symbol that signifies they are improper parkers I think it will be time to worry.

I wonder if they will burn down the DMV and blame the communists.
 
Here as far as I can think of the only issues are in the winter when they want to plow the streets. We have winter parking bans (at night) and it's announced when they are in effect.

Where I live, that stipulation of not parking on streets between 11 pm and 5 am is only from November 1st through April 1st and is for snowplowing purposes.

Around here it is because it is easier to plow the snow in the winter if it snows over night. My towns overnight street parking ban is only from Nov 15th until April 1st.

I guess that's why I didn't know why cities would have that law. I'm not sure I've ever seen one of those signs here on a public street. We don't have snowplows here :teeth:.

But I bet you I'll notice the next time I do see one of those signs!
 
If it is dark, it is night. My kid would be paying and getting a lecture and possibly keys taken away for being lazy not to find a spot without a warning sign.:headache:

Wow, that's harsh! Where I live it gets dark in the winter by 5:00 p.m. So, by your reasoning, I could be towed at supper time for overnight parking.

And my kids think I'm tough!

I would think towing someone at midnight is pushing it a bit. 2 or 3 in the morning I can understand. That said, I would think he is out of luck and was in the wrong place at the unposted wrong time. It's hard to interpret things that aren't clear. Expensive lesson learned for him.
 
Overnight on a street would mean to me that I couldn't leave it there from say 10PM to 6AM.

Overnight in a parking lot means that once the businesses in the building are closed, my car should be going shortly thereafter.

This,
The owner likely bought a generic sign to post, but after a business is closed it is private property. Likely he is having ongoing issues with people using the lot and posted the sign and hired a tower to watch the property. The tower MAY have watched the lot all night thinking someone would use the argument overnight meant midnight, so he sat and waited for the witching hour to hook up and tow.

I found it odd that he is a law student and didn't consider the No overnight meant this private lot does not want me here. I would have looked for a paid lot.
 
On the first page of this 4 year old zombie thread the OP says her ds was parked on the street. Since it was towed close to midnight, I assume this is a money maker for the city, and they pounce as soon as it's midnight. There is no overnight parking in my town, 2 am - 5 am, I believe, but it's to stop crime, not to ticket out of towners.
 
I was very confused when I got an alert that someone liked a post that I have no recollection of writing. LOL
 
Crazy how threads resurrect.

Now if only someone would do that for the bread and butter thread ... I'm dying to read it and I can't find it!
 
Crazy how threads resurrect.

Now if only someone would do that for the bread and butter thread ... I'm dying to read it and I can't find it!

It didn't start off as bread a butter related, but was more of a manners thread very similar to the etiquette threads we see today. I can't remember what it was titled but it was a fun one.
 
It didn't start off as bread a butter related, but was more of a manners thread very similar to the etiquette threads we see today. I can't remember what it was titled but it was a fun one.

I searched for a long while yesterday. I knew it had to be epic for it to be brought up by so many.
 
Was this it, from the famous Paul T: LINK

Some people are hopelessly unrefined and it fairly screams such when watching
them eat in a fine dinery. Some basic etiquette coupled with table manners can
make for not only an enjoyable experience, but one you can be confident in not
embarassing yourself.

I'll touch on just a few basics here.

Decide who is paying at the table, who the "host" for the meal is. Once that is
decided: The napkin is to be unfolded and place on the lap. The host decides
when the meal is over by placing the napkin back on the table when done. Keep
the napkin on your lap for the entire meal. When needing to use it on your face,
always blot and never wipe. When the host signals the end of the meal, you are
to put your napkin to the right of your plate, not refolded and not wadded up.

Generally, women order first, the host/hostess last but sometimes the server
decides who orders when.

Do not season your food before tasting it. Do not order more than 2 course
before the host/hostess at your table unless they indicate it is okay.

Your silverware is to be used from the outermost pieces, in.

If your beverage glass gets lip prints on it, wipe it off.

The American way of cutting is to hold the knife in right hand, fork in left.
Cut the foot, then switch hands and pick up the food with the fork in right
hand. The european way is to keep your fork in your left hand.

The knife and fork are to be placed at the positions of 10 and 4 oclock when
finished eating, and never put back on the table. Never leave a spoon in a cup.

I will give you some more basic fine WDW eating tips later. Paul T.
 
On the first page of this 4 year old zombie thread the OP says her ds was parked on the street. Since it was towed close to midnight, I assume this is a money maker for the city, and they pounce as soon as it's midnight. There is no overnight parking in my town, 2 am - 5 am, I believe, but it's to stop crime, not to ticket out of towners.

So what's the difference between a zombie thread and a thread revival?

In any case, I would think it's legally unenforceable unless specific hours are given. In San Francisco, Golden Gate Park has specific hours where parking isn't allowed. I heard it's to combat people sleeping (and living) in their cars, which in and of itself is illegal.

Kind of reminds me of another topic, which is the difference between backcountry day hiking and backpacking. In a lot of places a permit is needed to go backpacking, and there may be quotas. However, the definition of backpacking is kind of hazy - typically described as when there is "overnight camping" in the backcountry. I was personally thinking a 100% imsoniac (it's rare) might be able to claim that by never sleeping it isn't camping.
 












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