Ignoring work texts

[Southernmiss]

Well, I can see delivery being "urgent" on a holiday because so many people with typical office hours jobs would be home.

What I can't see is the OP's frustration at someone who was not scheduled to work and who did not respond to a text from work.

Again, it never mattered that DH and I had office jobs that required us to be at the office 8 to 5 on a week from Thursday. The whole point was that delivery was inconvenient and at the whim of the furniture company...not the customer's schedule. Been a while since i bought furniture, maybe it's a new world now where they come when it truly is convenient to the customer.

 

[goofyernmost]

Could be why you were laid off ! Attitude!

Rude much?

I actually knew a coworker that in 2 1/2 years time was laid off from 2 jobs...the reason why was downsizing in the company for one and a merger for the second where they eliminated duplicate jobs.

You folks can bury your heads in your little "they can't do that" bubble if you like. But, if a company has layoffs, but. certain people stayed and others went.. there is a good chance that the ones that left were not as productive as the ones that were selected to stay. That's not to say that the person in question wasn't a last in, first out situation or some other extenuating circumstance wasn't involved, but, if you are valuable you will stay and the dead wood will be drifted off and down the river. And no that is not rude, that is factual. Everyone thinks they are more valuable then they really are.

Funny. I was laid off last week along with every.single.other.employee because my employer was taken over by another company. Nothing at all to do with anyone's attitude. And we did have an arrangement where management would send out a group text to everyone who'd previously agreed to accept notification when last-minute help was needed.

That might have been the case here, but, we weren't told that, so we can make other assumptions. The attitudes today are incredible. I once was told by a new employee, just started and in training that the company didn't care about their help because 1. management didn't listen to their ideas and 2. They went home early twice a week because the stress was to high. So we didn't value our employees. He was right, we didn't value a trainee because at that point in time all they were was an expense. They were not generating any revenue and had not even begun to show that they were worth listening too. Sometimes the reasons are what you think they are.

As for the person that has had 6 different jobs in a short period of time. It wasn't the boss or the co-workers, it was their inability to adapt to the boss and the co-workers. The common denominator in this story is the person with the 6 jobs. Not hard to piece together that story.

 

[focusondisney]

I wonder if the surgeon who screwed up my gallbladder surgery had been working 18 hours straight...

Don't forget for months on end....

 

[Squirlz]

It's Art? I'm slipping. I should have known.

Yup.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I will assume you genuinely didn't understand so let me repeat it. Your husbands dedication will mean absolutely nothing if his employer decides it is in their interest to let him go. And there are myriad reasons and criteria other than his dedication as to why they might decide such. And he will be let go just as quickly as you were if such a decision is made.

You absolutely missed the point of my post, but thanks for explaining to me what everyone on Earth knows.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

You folks can bury your heads in your little "they can't do that" bubble if you like. But, if a company has layoffs, but. certain people stayed and others went.. there is a good chance that the ones that left were not as productive as the ones that were selected to stay. That's not to say that the person in question wasn't a last in, first out situation or some other extenuating circumstance wasn't involved, but, if you are valuable you will stay and the dead wood will be drifted off and down the river. And no that is not rude, that is factual. Everyone thinks they are more valuable then they really are.


That might have been the case here, but, we weren't told that, so we can make other assumptions. The attitudes today are incredible. I once was told by a new employee, just started and in training that the company didn't care about their help because 1. management didn't listen to their ideas and 2. They went home early twice a week because the stress was to high. So we didn't value our employees. He was right, we didn't value a trainee because at that point in time all they were was an expense. They were not generating any revenue and had not even begun to show that they were worth listening too. Sometimes the reasons are what you think they are.

As for the person that has had 6 different jobs in a short period of time. It wasn't the boss or the co-workers, it was their inability to adapt to the boss and the co-workers. The common denominator in this story is the person with the 6 jobs. Not hard to piece together that story.

So wait let me get this straight- you want to tell me all about layoffs while simultaneously telling another poster that a layoff another person experienced may not have actually been because of an attitude issue but what that another poster was describing but then again we weren't told why they were laid off so we can make other assumptions and so the assumption you've made is it was their attitude based on your experiences you've had? My goodness I'm so glad we're all in the same boat of just making up all sorts of assumptions today.

And FTR it wasn't necessarily what the poster said it was that they said it as a jab.

 

[Shanti]

This exactly. But he is nototrious for "not getting" his texts. He blames the phone all the time. We could have used the extra person. But he just blew it off

He shouldn't have to be on call 24/7 unless that's a stated part of the job (like being a doctor on call at certain times). Having to respond to work messages off the clock is extra, unpaid work. People have lives outside of work & shouldn't be expected to be constantly available for communication when they are not working. Being able to cut the cord from work and just be able to focus on family, friends & self is one of the things that differentiates a free person from a slave.

I am dedicated to my job, btw. We are officially discouraged from making & responding to work messages on the weekends, though. The job is already stressful enough without that, & they want rested & ready employees during the week.

 

[Kaytie]

He shouldn't have to be on call 24/7 unless that's a stated part of the job (like being a doctor on call at certain times).

Even doctors frequently aren't on call 24/7. My PCP is at a clinic/hospital setting, so while there is a doctor available at all times, it's not necessarily my doctor.

If a specific doctor doesn't have to be available every moment, a retail office mattress store dispatcher certainly doesn't.

 

[marlynnp]

So, he's not on call and it's not a work issued phone. And you're not his manager.

It's none of your business.

He has off at least two consecutive days. Just because he didn't take vacation days, doesn't mean he isn't on a 'vacation'.
I sometimes drive a couple of hours and go the the beach for a single day! I'm not using my phone.

 

[Nancyg56]

So, he's not on call and it's not a work issued phone. And you're not his manager.

It's none of your business.

This is exactly how I see it.

 

[Heidict]

I'm still caught up on the "mattress dispatcher". What the heck is that and why do they need so many of them working on a holiday?

 

[goofyernmost]

So wait let me get this straight- you want to tell me all about layoffs while simultaneously telling another poster that a layoff another person experienced may not have actually been because of an attitude issue but what that another poster was describing but then again we weren't told why they were laid off so we can make other assumptions and so the assumption you've made is it was their attitude based on your experiences you've had? My goodness I'm so glad we're all in the same boat of just making up all sorts of assumptions today.

And FTR it wasn't necessarily what the poster said it was that they said it as a jab.

If you check it out you will see that I basically eliminated the OP in any of the discussion because I didn't know the circumstances, but, then proceeded to explain that my experience, in management, covers a number of times when layoffs became necessary and some choices were made due to a person not being worth the gun powder to blow them to hell. That isn't contradictory or even accusatory to the OP. It is just the fact that it can happen. Only that person knows the real story. I didn't pass judgement on that person, just simply tried to let all of you know that, YES, attitude can make a huge difference. If you adapt the entitlement posture there is a very good chance that you will be out the door in the first need for downsizing. It comes under the heading of... "if you are not part of the solution, you are probably part of the problem". Apparently you didn't get it straight the first time... hopefully this will help.

 

[Westcoastwild]

If you check it out you will see that I basically eliminated the OP in any of the discussion because I didn't know the circumstances, but, then proceeded to explain that my experience, in management, covers a number of times when layoffs became necessary and some choices were made due to a person not being worth the gun powder to blow them to hell. That isn't contradictory or even accusatory to the OP. It is just the fact that it can happen. Only that person knows the real story. I didn't pass judgement on that person, just simply tried to let all of you know that, YES, attitude can make a huge difference. If you adapt the entitlement posture there is a very good chance that you will be out the door in the first need for downsizing. It comes under the heading of... "if you are not part of the solution, you are probably part of the problem". Apparently you didn't get it straight the first time... hopefully this will help.

Attitude can make a huge difference, you're right, but in this context- as I doubt "mattress dispatcher" is a career path for this guy- he's working what sounds like a lousy part time job with unpredictable hours and likely an incompetent manager. All he's got to do is not screw up and show up for his SCHEDULED shifts. They won't lay him off unless the business goes under, and they likely won't reward him for taking a holiday shift. The worse thing that can happen in this scenario (providing he isn't gunning for a management position in this company) is that he'll be dropped to the bottom of the "to call list". Which very likely, he just does not care about. He would have answered if he wanted more money.

 

[Westcoastwild]

If you check it out you will see that I basically eliminated the OP in any of the discussion because I didn't know the circumstances, but, then proceeded to explain that my experience, in management, covers a number of times when layoffs became necessary and some choices were made due to a person not being worth the gun powder to blow them to hell. That isn't contradictory or even accusatory to the OP. It is just the fact that it can happen. Only that person knows the real story. I didn't pass judgement on that person, just simply tried to let all of you know that, YES, attitude can make a huge difference. If you adapt the entitlement posture there is a very good chance that you will be out the door in the first need for downsizing. It comes under the heading of... "if you are not part of the solution, you are probably part of the problem". Apparently you didn't get it straight the first time... hopefully this will help.

And you know what, you might be safe in the first downsizing, but attitude will not save you in the second downsizing. Who you know or your abilities might. But ANY downsizing likely means the ship is sinking. Even if everyone had a great attitude, they've got to let people go.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

If you check it out you will see that I basically eliminated the OP in any of the discussion because I didn't know the circumstances, but, then proceeded to explain that my experience, in management, covers a number of times when layoffs became necessary and some choices were made due to a person not being worth the gun powder to blow them to hell. That isn't contradictory or even accusatory to the OP. It is just the fact that it can happen. Only that person knows the real story. I didn't pass judgement on that person, just simply tried to let all of you know that, YES, attitude can make a huge difference. If you adapt the entitlement posture there is a very good chance that you will be out the door in the first need for downsizing. It comes under the heading of... "if you are not part of the solution, you are probably part of the problem". Apparently you didn't get it straight the first time... hopefully this will help.

And apparently you honestly think that I'm not aware attitude (good or bad) is important..

You quoted my response to dish rag who was responding to SaintsManiac. My response to dish rag was because it was a jab they had towards the poster who had been sharing their experience about being laid off. Perhaps you missed my point of the issue...which was it was rude to assume that someone was laid off due to attitude. I know the jab wasn't aimed at actually caring about why the poster was laid off however several other posters including myself were commenting on other ways that someone could be laid off and those reasons were dismissed with a snobbish attitude.

You seem to have had bad experiences with people around you and work ethic and let that be the driving force in your response when in fact that's not at all what I was talking about.

 

[goofyernmost]

And you know what, you might be safe in the first downsizing, but attitude will not save you in the second downsizing. Who you know or your abilities might. But ANY downsizing likely means the ship is sinking. Even if everyone had a great attitude, they've got to let people go.

Mostly true, however, downsizing doesn't always mean the business is going out. I means that, for whatever reason, they need to cut back on expenses. It might be a downturn in the economy, seasonal or weather related. Many things including a decline it business, but, it isn't always permanent and layoffs are used to help get through tough times. Anyone that isn't pulling their weight at the point are likely to be on the top of the list. When a business is going out, it may be called a layoff, but, that is not really what it is. It is a dissolving of a company and not needing the labor force anymore.

My wife had an issue once where she came home and said that she got laid off. The very next day an ad appeared in the paper looking for a person to fill her very position. She might have been fired, I never asked, but, layoff, was not the reality.

 

[goofyernmost]

And apparently you honestly think that I'm not aware attitude (good or bad) is important..

You quoted my response to dish rag who was responding to SaintsManiac. My response to dish rag was because it was a jab they had towards the poster who had been sharing their experience about being laid off. Perhaps you missed my point of the issue...which was it was rude to assume that someone was laid off due to attitude. I know the jab wasn't aimed at actually caring about why the poster was laid off however several other posters including myself were commenting on other ways that someone could be laid off and those reasons were dismissed with a snobbish attitude.

You seem to have had bad experiences with people around you and work ethic and let that be the driving force in your response when in fact that's not at all what I was talking about.

Again I will repeat... I did not assume that the person was laid off because of attitude. I said I didn't know... end of discussion. I did, however, spend a lot of time letting people know that attitude can, indeed, cause you to be on the list of expendables.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Again I will repeat... I did not assume that the person was laid off because of attitude. I said I didn't know... end of discussion. I did, however, spend a lot of time letting people know that attitude can, indeed, cause you to be on the list of expendables.

End of discussion?? Really? Ok you know I'm not going to converse with a poster who has an attitude like yours.

 

[Westcoastwild]

Mostly true, however, downsizing doesn't always mean the business is going out. I means that, for whatever reason, they need to cut back on expenses. It might be a downturn in the economy, seasonal or weather related. Many things including a decline it business, but, it isn't always permanent and layoffs are used to help get through tough times. Anyone that isn't pulling their weight at the point are likely to be on the top of the list. When a business is going out, it may be called a layoff, but, that is not really what it is. It is a dissolving of a company and not needing the labor force anymore.

My wife had an issue once where she came home and said that she got laid off. The very next day an ad appeared in the paper looking for a person to fill her very position. She might have been fired, I never asked, but, layoff, was not the reality.

Well, not necessarily.

They may have called it a layoff and what they really meant was that they wanted to hire someone who would get paid less or work less or might go for no benefits. Your wife wouldn't be able to keep her job at that point. People get laid off sometimes because the company doesn't want to pay their pay scale rate.

But the tricky thing with your attitude argument, really, is that people can lose their jobs for just conflict with the boss. Or because their boss has a friend or relative they want in that position. Advertisements can be just for appearances sake. A good friend got "laid off" this year because her boss's buddy thought her position looked like "fun". The boss put the advertisement in the paper the day AFTER she told everyone she was hiring her crony and notified my friend. (City job. Legally had to advertise, and make a good show of it).

 

[Hikergirl]

I'm still caught up on the "mattress dispatcher". What the heck is that and why do they need so many of them working on a holiday?

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