I shouldnt be suprised at this point...

[NewJersey]

Discernment and Joe,

As I wrote a page ago, the day I 'chose' to be gay was the day you 'chose' to be straight.

I was born this way.

There were more facts published yesterday to back up what most already agree with. Should I post the link or will you just dismiss it?

 

[MrVisible]

God's Word is valid and He makes many good points!

How come "open-minded" so often means ignoring His Word? Learn from the best teacher -- God!

Sounds like you've got some delusions about your role in the universe, pal.
I hate to break it to you, but you're in all probability not god. And I'd require some sort of proof before I accept you as his spokesmodel.

 

[discernment]

Proof?

ask David Parker's son.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

I can tell you right now that I would never be a part of a religon that believes this,nor do I see the appeal of a religon that beleves this

If you have to read the rest of the story. Sin has been overcome.

 

[cardaway]

You act as if public schools are neutral on the issue of homosexuality. Seems they are getting only secular dogma.

Neutral = Secular

Really can't be any other way in a PUBLIC school.

 

[NewJersey]

MrVisible,

Is it you and your soon to be partner who enjoy shopping for office supplies or am I confusing you with someone else? I crack up whenever I read about it.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Discernment and Joe,

As I wrote a page ago, the day I 'chose' to be gay was the day you 'chose' to be straight.

I was born this way.

There were more facts published yesterday to back up what most already agree with. Should I post the link or will you just dismiss it?

Consider it dismissed. Thru God's grace and love all sin can be overcome.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Neutral = Secular

Really can't be any other way in a PUBLIC school.

Secular = people opinions (devoid of God), which are rarely neutral.

 

[NewJersey]

Consider it dismissed. Thru God's grace and love all sin can be overcome.

It gets old, the more and more you post that. And you sound more and more crazy.

When you don't want to address a legitimate point, you throw the Bible.

And how old are you? I'm asking seriously.

 

[MrVisible]

ask David Parker's son.

Ah, we're indulging in cryptic references are we? Very well. Gott Mit Uns.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Sounds like you've got some delusions about your role in the universe, pal.
I hate to break it to you, but you're in all probability not god. And I'd require some sort of proof before I accept you as his spokesmodel.

See the Bible then -- God's Word speaks for itsself.

 

[JennyMominRI]

I don't know much about Judaism, but don't you consider it a sin everytime you break a commandment or something God asked you not to do. I mean, sacrificing a pure animal was a way to get rid of these sins. I am not criticising, just trying to understand

Btw, thanks for the PM on Doctor Who!

Hi Saxoon...Jews don't believe in Original sin..That we are born sinner. However we all have an inclination to sin. Animal sacrifices were one way to atone for one sort of sin, Unintentonal sins against G-d.

Certain Mitzvahs (commandments) are for certain groups..Som eare for men,some for women, some for preists,some to be done in the temple etc.. Most commandments are positive ones, like eating Matzoh durng passover or building a sukkah during succot... One isn't *sinning* if they don't build a succah..My comment was directed at that idea that an innocent baby is born sinfull..In the Jewish POV they are not

 

[MrVisible]

MrVisible,

Is it you and your soon to be partner who enjoy shopping for office supplies or am I confusing you with someone else? I crack up whenever I read about it.

Yep, that's us. We can spend hours in OfficeMax. I have the Office Depot Advantage card, and I'm sometimes embarrassed at the size of the kickback checks.

We're getting betrothed in October, and should be in Disneyland for the honeymoon. Yay!

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

It gets old, the more and more you post that. And you sound more and more crazy.

When you don't want to address a legitimate point, you throw the Bible.

And how old are you? I'm asking seriously.

47 years

 

[JennyMominRI]

If you have to read the rest of the story. Sin has been overcome.

I have read the rest of the story,the thing is,there were already ways for sins to be overcome,that didn't involve anyone dying

 

[MrVisible]

See the Bible then -- God's Word speaks for itsself.

Why should I? I'm not a Christian. We were debating whether the Christian perspective should be the only one allowed in schools, as it seems to have a deleterious effect on gay children. A deadly effect, in some cases.

Is your position so weak that it can't stand up to having alternatives expressed? Do you really have so little faith in your position that you feel it can only flourish where there is complete ignorance of any other?

 

[JennyMominRI]

Secular = people opinions (devoid of God), which are rarely neutral.

My opinions are very different from yours but they certanly aren't secular(devoid of G-d)

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

You act as if public schools are neutral on the issue of homosexuality. Seems they are getting only secular dogma.

Secular Dogma=Failure to force ultra right wing bigotry down everyone's throat.

 

[NewJersey]

Yep, that's us. We can spend hours in OfficeMax. I have the Office Depot Advantage card, and I'm sometimes embarrassed at the size of the kickback checks.

We're getting betrothed in October, and should be in Disneyland for the honeymoon. Yay!

My bf and I share the same kind of cute quirks like that. We can spend 5 hours sitting in a car and talking about the most random things, and we have the best time doing it. Or we enjoy checking out new developments (also starting the search to buy our first new home and moving in together in 12-16 months from now), or going to Home Depot and looking at landscape lights, or Pier One to look at furniture. It's what being in love is all about! and I don't let people like Joe or Discernment keep me from being happy.

Speaking of office supplies, I also love to find cool new organizing things in Staples, as I'll be there tomorrow for more post it flags for my CPA review textbook.

Congrats and best of luck int he future!

(sorry for the OT)

 

[cardaway]

Secular = people opinions (devoid of God), which are rarely neutral.

What about that really large 80% percent Christian majority number we keep hearing about?

Could it be the majority of them actually agree that their religion is best taught at home, and in the church, and are fine with public schools staying out of it?

Do you really want the average teacher speaking about your religion without the training to do so properly?