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My anniversary isn't until 6/25, so I'd miss the CIC deal that seems like it will be ending 5/20

I see. Well if you want the 3k SW points, just reduce the CL on another card. If you don't care then go ahead and cancel. There is also a chance you'd be approved if you did neither of the above.
 
I was planning on cancelling it next month anyway, so I'll just call today and cancel it.

DH is an AU on this SW card. Does anyone know if cancelling it will remove his */24 spot, or would I have to have the AU removed and his history swept before closing it (he's only at 1/24, so it's not a big deal either way)

Closing your SW card will close the AU account, but it won’t remove reference of that account from DH’s credit report. If the SW card was opened in the last 24 months, the AU card will count against DH’s */24 status.

Like I replied to DisneyMandC above, you’ll need to go into DH’s Chase account, send a SM to Chase to explain that he’s been removed as an AU from your SW card ending in numbers xxxx (due to closure of the card), but he sees it is still on his credit reports, say that he is not and has never been responsible financially for the charges on that card, and request Chase remove reference to that account from his credit reports with all the bureaus to which Chase reports.
 
Thanks! This thread just moves so fast I spend my time reading instead of posting

That is soooo me! I try to read everyday, but I'm always several pages behind and I feel like other people are able to answer questions and share advice in a more timely manner. This thread is AMAZING though!!

So fun that your son gets to celebrate his birthday at Disneyland! You will both love it!!
 
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Even if DH’s AU CSR shows up under closed accounts, Chase may still count it against 5/24. If DH is under 5/24 even if you count the AU CSR, then it doesn’t matter going into a 5/24 Rule application or double dip. But you’ll still want to get rid of the AU CSR from DH’s reports so it doesn’t count.

You’ve removed DH as an AU. Now, from DH’s account, send a SM to Chase to explain that he’s been removed as an AU from your CSR account ending in numbers xxxx, but he sees it is still on his credit reports, say that he is not and has never been responsible for the charges on that card, and request Chase remove reference to that account from his credit reports with all the bureaus to which Chase reports.

He was on my CSP, we haven't had a CSR yet since I didn't know to double dip- but I think your advice would remain the same? He is well under 5/24 even with the AU, so no issues there.

DH has two online Chase accounts- one business and one personal (only has Disney and Amazon on that one). Should I SM Chase from the personal account to ask them to remove it?
 

Am I looking at this correctly? Because it is cheaper to do the nights/flights than just the hotel...and I still get airline miles. I must be doing something wrong.

This is what I keep thinking every time I look at these nights/flights packages. Trying to follow yours so I can actually understand how these work.
 
Evening y'all! I applied last week to have the existing credit line on my one credit card raised and it came through today! I'm hoping this means that I will look like a sure thing when filling out Chase apps...I got sick last week and that 100K CIP bonus in-branch didn't come through, so I haven't applied for that yet. I may just be lazy and stick with an online app rather than try and chase down a BRM. Actually, bringing up the online vs. BRM choice got me into an argument with my husband today over dinner, which leads me to a kind of personal question for anyone who's willing to answer...

My husband is deathly afraid of me dipping a toe into this churning world. He thinks it's really risky and is scared it will ruin the great financial progress we've made this year eliminating the last of our IRS and car debt. He knows this is irrational, since I'm objectively pretty dang good with money, so he's willing to let me try it out. However, I don't feel great about having to hide the details from him to avoid stressing him out. Actually, advance planning of any kind stresses him out - he got antsy today when I asked him if he'd like to meet Kylo Ren whenever we take our next trip to DHS :/

Has anyone else been in a similar situation with a spouse who is reluctant to start churning? Did you just keep the details from them? Sacrifice award travel for the sake of your relationship? Kidnap them from work and say "we're going to Disneyworld on awards points right now whether you like it for not!!!" ?

Argh, help. *headdesk*

I can at least see where your husband is coming from and I can understand the concern. My husband had to come up from a bad credit position, and has been reluctant to embrace this as a hardcore hobby, even though we already use CC's to travel hack a bit but we're not in the same league as some folks here. I'm trying to get there though so we can have a super duper anniversary trip next year on our very less than super duper budget :)

I laugh when folks post on here about their SO's thinking it's illegal or credit ruining because the same exact words have come out of his mouth! Because the credit "rules" change over time it's hard to change your thinking if you don't keep up. I would tell him about the guy who opened 60 cards in the last 4 or 5 years (I think that's you @SouthFayetteFan ) and he'd think he's lying because no one could get that many cards in a year with all the inquires, even in 2 player mode. Because decades ago if you had more than 3 ish inquries on your CR in a year you'd look like a risk because you're seeking so much credit so quickly. But times change, several card issuers aren't as inquiry sensitive because there's just so much credit being thrown out there and so many things that can give an inquiry they seem to have lightened up. Trying to get him to understand that has been trying to push a mule up a mountain.

But I see light at the end of the tunnel. For me I think it's been 2 things.
1. We've been discussing it for a few months now. I just keep involving him in my strategies and explaining how it fits in with our normal budget if we just change this to that, etc etc. But I don't get into the nitty gritty details of how it happens, just what it would mean to him, like switching to a different credit card for gas and here's why. In fact, although I swear I mentioned it, I apparently never explained the 5/24 rule to him. So I mentioned it this weekend when we were discussing him getting the Marriott Biz card and it was like eye opening news, so as I explained it he's like "So you're just about already there then!" and I'm like "Yes, that's why we have to be strategic about cards that get opened and when" and wanting to add "like that AmEx card you randomly opened in Jan! WTH man?!" It's part of why I have left him out of opening cards so far, so as he sees what it's doing to me (or really for me) credit wise he'll warm up to it when it comes to his turn.
2. This is what I think really turned the tide for him. After doing the above for a few months I mentioned a Chase bank bonus. It required Direct Deposit to get the bonus which at this point in time is only doable on his paycheck. So I discussed it with him and $500 of free money that seemed simple got him on board. He opened the accounts, hit all the requirements, and the first part of the bonus hit within 3 or 4 weeks. So he got a tangible result to something pretty quickly. Until then, points and even cash back is kinda nebulous and doesn't have the same feel as cold hard cash hitting your bank account. Especially when I'm saving up stuff to use next year. Sometimes you need that immediacy to really make it feel worth it.

I just realized that pretty much after that he's been way more on board with this whole thing. To the point where he asked this weekend if he was supposed to be opening the Marriott Biz card to get more nights for our Marriott status we discussed the other week :eek: From the guy that thought all this was illegal and only has a "business" right now, he was willing to open a business card if we needed it. And even though we were driving I whipped out my phone to check the offer to see if was still open just in case he said to go for it :laughing:

Until now we've evaluated everything as a keeper card and haven't actually churned anything because if it wasn't worth keeping it wasn't worth applying for. I have seen the error of our ways and I'm trying to get hubby there too: that not everything has to be a keeper now. We've got about 20 year of credit history now, as long as we're not dropping our oldest cards, we can afford to be a little fast and loose with cancelling things. I think as long as 1 player understands all the ins and outs, player 2 can be slowly brought up to speed as it's appropriate.
 
If using my SS#, does Chase look at my available credit (currently at 38% of income) for a business card? That will be lowered once i cancel my SW Plus, but I haven't done so yet (I've only had the card 10 months). If so, do you think 38% is too high for approval?

I don’t think 38% is high at all. Hypothetically, if Chase approved you for a $5k credit line on the CIC, what percent of your total gross household income would that take you to? If less than 50%, you’re probably fine.
 
This is what I keep thinking every time I look at these nights/flights packages. Trying to follow yours so I can actually understand how these work.

It is extra confusing to me since I am wanting SPG properties plus we don't know how the new charts will look.
So if I grab a cat 7 now for 330k to lock in the price, hopefully I can assume the Westin will be Cat 7...or even cat 6...but then I wasted 30k marriott points.
 
OK, so I am looking at this Westin Maui, Christmas break...

It tells me 20,714/nt. (Does that account for 5th night free already?) Assuming that incl the 5th night free the total SPG points needed is 144,998...or 434,994 marriott points.

A night/flight package with 120k air miles and 7nt stay is:
Cat 7 330k marriott points
Cat 6 300k marriott points

Am I looking at this correctly? Because it is cheaper to do the nights/flights than just the hotel...and I still get airline miles. I must be doing something wrong.
First off - yes the 20,714 should be including the 5th night free already.

Unfortunately, You have too many variables here to make a good decision:
  • This is currently an SPG property at a Cat6 based on the current chart
  • the Nights and Flights prices your're using are based on Marriott's current chart
  • The SPG property MIGHT become a Cat 7 in Marriott's NEW chart (or could be a cat 8 but be a cat 7 initially due to that loophole)
  • The Marriott Nights and Flights schedule will also change to match the NEW chart in August so what you're seeing now will not be true anymore
On the 120k Air Miles package, I would anticipate a NEW cat7 Marriott property to require 480,000 Marriott points
 
First off - yes the 20,714 should be including the 5th night free already.

Unfortunately, You have too many variables here to make a good decision:
  • This is currently an SPG property at a Cat6 based on the current chart
  • the Nights and Flights prices your're using are based on Marriott's current chart
  • The SPG property MIGHT become a Cat 7 in Marriott's NEW chart (or could be a cat 8 but be a cat 7 initially due to that loophole)
  • The Marriott Nights and Flights schedule will also change to match the NEW chart in August so what you're seeing now will not be true anymore
On the 120k Air Miles package, I would anticipate a NEW cat7 Marriott property to require 480,000 Marriott points

But if I buy the cat 7 package now for 330k, then the Westin becomes a cat 7 I should be able to redeem my cert for it, or no?
 
I am a newbie to churning, but want to dip my foot into the business card world before the CIC offer expires, but I still have a few questions.

My "business" this last year only had $120 in cash revenue, but I had a nonmonetary exchange valued at $3800 (the company leasing my space upgraded my solar system to offset the majority of their payment). Can I count both as revenue? And if I can only use the cash, do you think $120 is too little in revenue to be approved?

If using my SS#, does Chase look at my available credit (currently at 38% of income) for a business card? That will be lowered once i cancel my SW Plus, but I haven't done so yet (I've only had the card 10 months). If so, do you think 38% is too high for approval?

I've been wondering about the non monetary values myself but haven't had a real good research into it yet. Please let us know what you find out.

Personally I've been thinking if you can put a value on it and if it counts for the IRS then it should count for credit. I call hubby's side gig a "business" because he hasn't been doing it for money in the last few years. He's been doing it for trade in-kind and mostly just for friends and family. But I can pretty much fix a value to it if needed (although maybe not the pizza and beer gigs :laughing:) and was hoping to use that if I could convince him to open a Biz card.
 
He was on my CSP, we haven't had a CSR yet since I didn't know to double dip- but I think your advice would remain the same? He is well under 5/24 even with the AU, so no issues there.

DH has two online Chase accounts- one business and one personal (only has Disney and Amazon on that one). Should I SM Chase from the personal account to ask them to remove it?

If DH is under 5/24 even counting the AU CSP, which shows as closed, he should be fine to go for the Sapphire double dip.

But yes, have DH send a SM to Chase from his personal Chase account to request they remove the AU card from his credit reports.

The Sapphire double dip only requires one available slot under 5/24 to do, but when DH is approved for both CSR and CSP that’ll add two cards to his */24 count. If DH can get one slot back by removing the AU, win!
 
I don’t think 38% is high at all. Hypothetically, if Chase approved you for a $5k credit line on the CIC, what percent of your total gross household income would that take you to? If less than 50%, you’re probably fine.

I was thinking about this last night a bit as I decide if I want to apply for the CIC... If Chase approved me for say $5k I would be just under 45%. Think its worth taking my two SW cards down to say $5k/ea and lowering my overall just under 30% first?
 
You may not be comfortable with this, but when I asked on Reddit how many PNC accounts I could get someone said they were on their 8th account. You won’t get the bonus though.

Wow! Thats a lot of accounts! It didn't even occur to me to open more than one - will have to think about this one.
 
If DH is under 5/24 even counting the AU CSP, which shows as closed, he should be fine to go for the Sapphire double dip.

But yes, have DH send a SM to Chase from his personal Chase account to request they remove the AU card from his credit reports.

The Sapphire double dip only requires one available slot under 5/24 to do, but when DH is approved for both CSR and CSP that’ll add two cards to his */24 count. If DH can get one slot back by removing the AU, win!

Thank you!! Going to do that tonight on his account and apply for him maybe next month.

I have the Barclaycard personal AA card. Same offer when I got it. No problems. CitiBusiness AA has a 70k mile offer.

Thanks!! I knew citi had one too but just not really in a position to do another MSR right now while working on CIP and double dipping next month potentially.
 
I was thinking about this last night a bit as I decide if I want to apply for the CIC... If Chase approved me for say $5k I would be just under 45%. Think its worth taking my two SW cards down to say $5k/ea and lowering my overall just under 30% first?

I don't have an answer for you, but I'm watching all this closely. I'm way over 50% from Chase with just five cards. Won't be under 5/24 until July. at some point I may have to do something also to get the UR cards I want.
 
I was thinking about this last night a bit as I decide if I want to apply for the CIC... If Chase approved me for say $5k I would be just under 45%. Think its worth taking my two SW cards down to say $5k/ea and lowering my overall just under 30% first?

There's no certain data point about how soon after reducing your credit lines does that credit potentially free up to open new cards.

I play it more cautiously. I reduced the credit limit on one of my Chase cards by about $10k around 3 weeks ago in preparation to apply for the CIC. The change reflected on my Chase account immediately. However, my credit reports still show the old limit for that card, which last reported a month ago. My statement for that card closes today or tomorrow, so I'm waiting for my reports to update with the lower credit limit before putting in a new application.
 
I looked into that. Too expensive unfortunately. Much cheaper to MS it.

I think you said this before, but if not, points stays count as elite nights. So depends on if you can afford to burn some points for some of it too.
We've been evaluating the spend (both in dollars and/or points) needed to get platinum too, to decide if it's worth it. I think we missed the boat as we'd need another 12 nights on top of the 15 we'll get later this year, which the easiest would be the Marriott Biz 15 nights for $99 but when I was checking the offer over the weekend it didn't mention nights anymore :( I was on my phone so I'm hoping it was just mobile display issue because I didn't think that change was happening until later this year. Getting those 15 nights in 2019 isn't going to help me :(
 
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