Hi All...I’ve been on these boards a while, usually the DVC ones and Just found your group....amazing stuff....thought I was doing well getting the SW points and companion ticket the last 5 years...
I’m ready to try for a different chase card, was looking at the CIP, since I do have a eBay business for the last 10years.
These are the cards I’ve opened in the last 24 months
7/16 chase SW Plus.. cl $11,000...husband as AU..I now know not to do this
1/17 chase Disney premier cl $18,000...hubby also AU
5/5 jared card...my name only ..mistake to open got a discount
9/17 chase SW business card cl$7,000... my name only
9/17 chase SW premier card cl$20,000...hubby as AU
Questions for you experts...when can I apply for the chase CIP card and should I reduce CL on any cards before doing so
I would also like to work on getting cards in my husbands name too...do I need to take him off as an authorized user on the above accounts first and what cards would you recommend getting in his name
We usually travel to Disney a few times a year...using our DVC points...my son also lives there now. Southwest is our airline of choice..we live 10minutes away from ISP so we make good use of SW points...us flying to Orlando and we also use them to fly our son back to NY
Thinking about a family trip to Hawaii in a few years so the Chase UR points look like they could work well for us
But I’d love to hear your opinions...thanks
Thanks..I will PM you to be added to the private group....my credit score is 830 and we pay off cc monthly so hopefully no issue getting the card
Do you think I should reduce any credit limits prior to applying for the CIP....currently at 50% of income on Chase accounts
We do have Chase branches but not friendly ones so I’m ok with applying online
Hubby has no cards lol ever...he leaves the applying for cc to me and I’ve always added him as an AU...now know not to do so....he’s fine with me applying for cards for him....maybe even referring him for the CIP if I’m approved
He just will not make phone calls about applications
Welcome to our thread!
@SouthFayetteFan and
@speedyfishy already gave you great advice. I’ll just add a few more comments.
1. By my read of your list of cards opened in the past 24 months, I agree with
@SouthFayetteFan that it looks like you’re only 4/24 and therefore eligible for the CIP.
Generally, business credit cards don’t get reported to credit reporting agencies and therefore don’t show up on your personal credit report, but there are exceptions. Chase doesn’t report their business card accounts to your personal credit report, so that SW Biz doesn’t count.
That Jared card may or may not count, because store cards sometimes don’t count; but because it looks like the card is issued by a bank, Comenity Bank, it’ll likely be reported on your personal credit report.
To get an unofficial count of the credit cards you’ve opened in the past 24 months, you can check Chase’s “Credit Journey” feature. If you’re a Chase customer, when you log into your account you should see a free credit score feature on the lefthand side of your screen, click on it and it’ll take you to Credit Journey that offers you insight into what’s on your credit report, including how many card accounts you’ve opened in the past 24 months! You can also sign up free for Credit Karma, which pulls data from TransUnion and Equifax, including what credit cards show up on your report and when you opened those accounts.
When applying for credit cards, different issuers will pull your report from different credit bureaus, and
this can even depend on your state. Data points (“DPs”) show Chase pulls from a mix of the 3 major bureaus so you should be aware what each might be reporting. You can pull a free credit report from each of the 3 major bureaus annually from
https://www.annualcreditreport.com/.
2. If you want to get your husband into the game (as “Player 2”), remove him as an AU from your Chase cards immediately! As
@SouthFayetteFan, 2-player mode is extremely lucrative and much less risky. Because issuers look at each of you individually (but you can put total household income on your applications!), you can alternate your applications to slow your pace of applying for new cards (and not hit an issuer too hard, too fast), making you and your husband look less risky. Alternating the order of you applications also allows one spouse to refer the other spouse for the same card and pick up a referral bonus.
Fortunately, removing your husband as an AU from your cards and those open accounts from his credit report is very easy through Chase (not the case for all issuers). You’ll want to start this now and give it a statement cycle before getting your husband in the game. For each card that your husband is an AU on, go into your Chase account, send a Secure Message (“SM”) to Chase regarding the particular card requesting that Chase cancel the AU card/remove your husband as an AU on that card account. Once that’s done, go into your husband’s Chase account, and send a SM to Chase informing them that he is no longer an AU on each card, that he was not and no longer is responsible financially for any of the charges on each card (key words), and that he’d like Chase to remove those AU accounts from his credit reports with all credit bureaus to which Chase reports. This should remove at least 3 cards from his */24 count.
You may want to save a slot or two under 5/24 for your husband to apply for the SW cards later in the year if you want him to go for the SW Companion Pass.
3. It looks like Chase has extended $56k in credit lines to you. The conventional wisdom is Chase is comfortable extending credit lines up to 50% of the income reported on your application. If you're married, you should put down total household income. There are numerous DPs, including many people here, who have credit lines way more than 50% of income. Chase views personal and business credit lines together, but if you come to a situation where you offer to move credit around, Chase will not let you move personal credit lines to business or vice versa. (As an aside, a lot of people applying for business cards with only a "business" prefer not to have to get to a situation where they have to speak with a person for verification or reconsideration and possibly get grilled about their "business," which is why there's such a preference for automatic approval.)
There's been more and more DPs recently where people have offered to move credit around to open a new card, but a Chase rep told them no, or they don't do that anymore, or offered to close one or more existing cards to open a new card. There are still more DPs of Chase allowing credit to be moved around to open a new card, however, so it seems like YMMV.
Whether one should proactively reduce their credit lines with Chase if they feel like they are reaching their limit (e.g., your new cards' credit lines are getting smaller, or you had to move around credit to open the last card, or your new card has a bare minimum credit line available for that card product) is debatable. Some people feel you should never proactively reduce your credit line because it takes away a chip that you can possibly bargain with by offering to move it around to open a new card. Also, reducing credit lines will reduce your total available credit, which will tend to increase the % of credit utilization and could lower your credit score. Others feel like proactively lowering their credit lines if they feel they're at or over what Chase is likely to extend to them, as much as a statement cycle before submitting an app for a new card, will increase the chances of auto-approval.
If you’re going to apply for a CIP, the bare minimum credit line required to open that card is $5k. If ends up denying your application for too much credit extended, remember you won’t be able to call the reconsideration line (“recon”) to offer to move credit over from your personal cards to open the CIP and you have only a $7k credit line on the SW Biz. So if you think you may be on the edge of the total credit limit that Chase is willing to give you, you may want to call or send an SM to Chase to reduce some credit lines on your personal cards (since those can’t be moved to a CIP anyway).
4. The CIP is my favorite card in my wallet right now and my fastest Ultimate Rewards (“UR”)-points generator because of how it currently earns 3x UR points on Plastiq. If you decide to go for the CIP, we can fill you in on ways to maximize the rewards on your spending.